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From: Warp
Subject: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 14:18:19
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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 14:38:33
Message: <Xns9003DA420seed7@povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>begin 600 attic2.jpg.bz2

I like the burning mark above the candle. The glass is way to clean, maybe 
some condense or rain on it?

Ingo

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 14:41:53
Message: <3a2fe801@news.povray.org>
ingo <ing### [at] homenl> wrote:
: I like the burning mark above the candle.

  Can you guess how did I make it?-)

: The glass is way to clean, maybe 
: some condense or rain on it?

  Any suggestions on how to do it?

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 15:26:14
Message: <3A2FF267.43FE3517@gmx.de>
Do you want to burn the house or why is the wood above the candle that
dark? :-) The rest looks quite good now, just the box needs some work on
the texture IMO.

BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?

Christoph

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From: Sander
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 15:40:51
Message: <MPG.149a105a6ad660e19896b9@news.povray.org>
in povray.binaries.images, Warp says...
> begin 600 attic2.jpg.bz2

BZ2 is unknown to me as an extension; what should I do with it?
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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 15:55:32
Message: <3A2FF944.8C8BE2ED@gmx.de>
Ken wrote:
> 
> You will probably have to do as I did and save the file to disk,
> change the name to attic2.jpg, and then open it in a regular
> image viewing program. It's a major big time hassle but if you
> want to see it this probably the only option you will have
> available to you as it was to me.
> 

What viewing program do you use? It's no jpg file but bzip2 compressed and
therefore you need a decompressor.  

To Sander:
There is a bunzip2.exe coming with cygwin, otherwise you could try
http://www.powerarchiver.com/ (presuming you are using windows)

Christoph

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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 16:01:42
Message: <3A2FFAB5.75C3FD97@spiritone.com>
What kind of file is this? I can't read it.

Josh

Warp wrote:

>                      Name: attic2.jpg.bz2
>    attic2.jpg.bz2    Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream)
>                  Encoding: x-uuencode
>
> --
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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 16:23:15
Message: <3A2FFF91.183A4275@onwijs.com>
Josh English wrote:
> 
> What kind of file is this? I can't read it.
> 
> Josh
> 
Me neither, or at least after seeing the extension I didn't even try.
This is funny, when you think about the discussion on file formats going on in
the animation group. I guess my newsreader isn't as advanced as it should be on
my piece of crap toy system ;)

Remco


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 16:28:19
Message: <Xns9003E2FD7seed7@povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>ingo <ing### [at] homenl> wrote:
>: I like the burning mark above the candle.
>
>  Can you guess how did I make it?-)

My first impression, when looking at the picture, was that it is a shadow. 
That leads me to an invisible object or negative light.
My solution would probably be a scaled and turbulated spherical pigment.

>: The glass is way to clean, maybe 
>: some condense or rain on it?
>
>  Any suggestions on how to do it?

Rain, little streams of water -> blobs, maybe with a little bit higher 
reflection than the glass.
Condense, a very thin box, in front of the glass, containig scattering 
media.


Ingo

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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 19:48:48
Message: <3a302ff0@news.povray.org>
> This is funny, when you think about the discussion on file formats going
on in
> I guess my newsreader isn't as advanced as it should be on
> my piece of crap toy system ;)

Almost seems to have been done as a matter of point, lets all start posting
our images in none standard hitherto unknown formats with or without
additional compression just for fun.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 20:52:42
Message: <slrn930adr.vg1.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On 7 Dec 2000 14:41:53 -0500, Warp wrote:
>ingo <ing### [at] homenl> wrote:
>
>: The glass is way to clean, maybe 
>: some condense or rain on it?
>
>  Any suggestions on how to do it?

Condensation would be nice, and I'd use a bozo fairly large scale and
very transparent white/clear and put it on the pane of glass before
moving the glass into position, that way all the panes will have the
condensation in the same corner as in RL. 

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 20:52:43
Message: <slrn930au4.vg1.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 12:47:38 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>Sander wrote:
>> 
>> in povray.binaries.images, Warp says...
>> > begin 600 attic2.jpg.bz2
>> 
>> BZ2 is unknown to me as an extension; what should I do with it?
>
>You will probably have to do as I did and save the file to disk,
>change the name to attic2.jpg, and then open it in a regular
>image viewing program. It's a major big time hassle but if you
>want to see it this probably the only option you will have
>available to you as it was to me.

I thought Winzip could open these, I know from past experience that
it can open (and recognise) tar.gz files. 

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 7 Dec 2000 23:51:37
Message: <3A3069A7.292CBFB8@pacbell.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > You will probably have to do as I did and save the file to disk,
> > change the name to attic2.jpg, and then open it in a regular
> > image viewing program. It's a major big time hassle but if you
> > want to see it this probably the only option you will have
> > available to you as it was to me.
> >
> 
> What viewing program do you use? It's no jpg file but bzip2 compressed and
> therefore you need a decompressor.

Well you got me there. When I saved the file to disk I renamed it
attic.jpg. When I opened an image viewing program to view it I went
to a different directory from where I stored the recently saved
image. Unfortunately I also had an image titled attic.jpg from
a previous occasion (probably Warp's first version) and didn't
realize my mistake before posting. You are correct in that I
could not view todays image, as I stated I could, and apologize
for any confusion this may have caused.

(Does this mean I am a liberal ?)

-- 
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 8 Dec 2000 03:43:27
Message: <3a309f2f@news.povray.org>
Mark Wagner <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
news:3a30990c@news.povray.org...
> A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
> downstairs.
>
>

Interesting. Any chance of an attachment my machine can understand?

Gail
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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 8 Dec 2000 08:57:52
Message: <vup13t81tj3ogeekkp4vcrq7khqlkhu3tq@4ax.com>
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 03:16:06 -0500 Mark Wagner wrote:

>A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
>downstairs.

  Very amusing, Mark. Could you please cancel this 173k post so those
that pay for their connection time by the minute won't waste their time
downloading your 'image'? Thanks.

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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 8 Dec 2000 19:31:12
Message: <3a317d50$1@news.povray.org>
> A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
> downstairs.

ROFL - i bet the original image thats in there is only 150kbbu !!


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From: Elias Pschernig
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 9 Dec 2000 08:55:30
Message: <3a3239d2$1@news.povray.org>
> 
> > A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
> > downstairs.
> 
> ROFL - i bet the original image thats in there is only 150kbbu !!

I tried compressing it as a .PNG, and it's only 128 KB :)


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 9 Dec 2000 12:40:21
Message: <3a326e85@news.povray.org>
>(Does this mean I am a liberal ?)

Only if you insist that votes already counted three times are uncounted ...

Jim


"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:3A3069A7.292CBFB8@pacbell.net...
>
>
> Christoph Hormann wrote:
> >
> > Ken wrote:
> > >
> > > You will probably have to do as I did and save the file to disk,
> > > change the name to attic2.jpg, and then open it in a regular
> > > image viewing program. It's a major big time hassle but if you
> > > want to see it this probably the only option you will have
> > > available to you as it was to me.
> > >
> >
> > What viewing program do you use? It's no jpg file but bzip2 compressed
and
> > therefore you need a decompressor.
>
> Well you got me there. When I saved the file to disk I renamed it
> attic.jpg. When I opened an image viewing program to view it I went
> to a different directory from where I stored the recently saved
> image. Unfortunately I also had an image titled attic.jpg from
> a previous occasion (probably Warp's first version) and didn't
> realize my mistake before posting. You are correct in that I
> could not view todays image, as I stated I could, and apologize
> for any confusion this may have caused.
>
> (Does this mean I am a liberal ?)
>
> --
> Ken Tyler


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From: Psychomech
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 9 Dec 2000 18:43:56
Message: <3A32EFE2.278B3453@home.com>
How do you view this file???

Mark Wagner wrote:

> A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
> downstairs.
>
> --
> Mark
>
> "The derivative of sin(2x) is cos(2x)"  - Matt Giwer
> "I never said that" - Matt Giwer
>
>                                               Name:
ornament.ras.rar.zip.tar.gz.bz2.uue.sit
>    ornament.ras.rar.zip.tar.gz.bz2.uue.sit    Type: Macintosh StuffIt Archive
(application/x-stuffit)
>                                           Encoding: x-uuencode


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 9 Dec 2000 21:45:51
Message: <3A32EDA5.A595BB13@faricy.net>
Psychomech wrote:

> How do you view this file???

1) Download lots of decompression crap.

2) Manually use them to remove the layers of "compression".

3) Open the decompressed image file.

4) Spend months reclaiming your file associations from the programs you downloaded and
installed.

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From: Psychomech
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 9 Dec 2000 22:48:13
Message: <3A332923.92E7F6A6@home.com>
I thought that might be the way i would have to do it... :{   Lord!  Mark Wanger
didn't want many
people to view this pic did he????

David Fontaine wrote:

> Psychomech wrote:
>
> > How do you view this file???
>
> 1) Download lots of decompression crap.
>
> 2) Manually use them to remove the layers of "compression".
>
> 3) Open the decompressed image file.
>
> 4) Spend months reclaiming your file associations from the programs you downloaded
and installed.
>
> --
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From: Dawn McKnight
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 00:22:56
Message: <3A331331.815C8E44@mac.com>
Psychomech wrote:
> 
> I thought that might be the way i would have to do it... :{   Lord!  Mark Wanger
didn't want many
> people to view this pic did he????

I believe it was Mark's way of making a comment about the discussion in
the 'guidelines' thread, in p.b.animations.

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:18:41
Message: <3a332041@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote in message <3a309f2f@news.povray.org>...
>
>Interesting. Any chance of an attachment my machine can understand?


Yes.  I posted essentially the same image here a year ago as a jpeg.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:20:42
Message: <3A332194.6D2FAC9C@pacbell.net>
Jim Kress wrote:
> 
> >(Does this mean I am a liberal ?)
> 
> Only if you insist that votes already counted three times are uncounted ...

I would never insist such a thing...

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:22:49
Message: <3a332139@news.povray.org>
Rick [Kitty5] wrote in message <3a317d50$1@news.povray.org>...
>
>> A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
>> downstairs.
>
>ROFL - i bet the original image thats in there is only 150kbbu !!

The original image was 580 KB -- guess why I compressed it?


--
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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:33:23
Message: <3a3323b3@news.povray.org>
Psychomech wrote in message <3A332923.92E7F6A6@home.com>...
>I thought that might be the way i would have to do it... :{   Lord!  Mark
Wanger didn't want many
>people to view this pic did he????


That's "Mark Wagner", and it doesn't really matter to me how many people
view it, since I posted a very similar version a year ago.  This was mostly
a commentary on the "Guidelines" thread in povray.binaries.images, and on
Warp's decision to bzip2 the image he posted here.

--
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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:42:19
Message: <3a3325cb@news.povray.org>
Alan Kong wrote in message ...

>  Very amusing, Mark. Could you please cancel this 173k post so those
>that pay for their connection time by the minute won't waste their time
>downloading your 'image'? Thanks.


Message canceled.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 09:49:04
Message: <3a3397e0@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
: BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?

  Completely honest answer:

  I had a little fight with Ken about whether posting in a format not supported
by every platform is OK or not. My opinion was that it would be polite to
post your files in a format supported by most platforms.
  I packed the image with bzip2 (which doesn't seem to be very popular in
the Windows platform since it seems that WinZip nor other popular packer
programs support it, although bzip2 is quite popular in Unix systems) to
make it harder for Windows-users to open it. My intention was to show that
using a format not directly supported by most platforms only causes trouble
to people.

  I agree that it may have been a bit childish "attack". I'm sorry.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 10:46:57
Message: <3A33A64C.DE38D6D2@pacbell.net>
Warp wrote:
> 
> Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?
> 
>   Completely honest answer:
> 
>   I had a little fight with Ken about whether posting in a format not supported
> by every platform is OK or not. My opinion was that it would be polite to
> post your files in a format supported by most platforms.

You completely failed to make your point or to understand mine. You
posted in a format that is only used by 3-5% of the worlds computer
users. My point was that you cater to the greatest common denominator
and you have clearly not demonstrated this by your actions.

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:30:49
Message: <3A33F5D4.FB30BB09@onwijs.com>
The question is: Did you feel you missed much?

;)

Remco

Ken wrote:
> 
> Warp wrote:
> >
> > Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> > : BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?
> >
> >   Completely honest answer:
> >
> >   I had a little fight with Ken about whether posting in a format not supported
> > by every platform is OK or not. My opinion was that it would be polite to
> > post your files in a format supported by most platforms.
> 
> You completely failed to make your point or to understand mine. You
> posted in a format that is only used by 3-5% of the worlds computer
> users. My point was that you cater to the greatest common denominator
> and you have clearly not demonstrated this by your actions.
> 
> --
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 11 Dec 2000 09:51:07
Message: <3A34EABB.ABE2831D@pacbell.net>
Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> The question is: Did you feel you missed much?

I got over it.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 11 Dec 2000 10:26:41
Message: <3a34f231@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: You completely failed to make your point or to understand mine.

  An you failed to understand that I'm talking about politeness.

  I'm not saying which is the most practical way of doing it, or which is
the best way of giving your work to most people.
  What I'm saying is that in my opinion it's *POLITE* to post in a format
which everyone can read.
  You might have to make some compromises if you want to be polite in this
way, but I haven't questioned that. I only said my opinion about politeness.

  Think it in this way:
  Only a small % of people is vegetarian. However, if you are inviting people
to your house and making food for them, it's polite to have a vegetarian
meal as an option.
  It's very impolite to say "since you are only a minority I don't have
to consider you at all; eat this or don't eat anything. The door is that
way, by the way". That's extremely rude.

  Do you understand now?

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 11 Dec 2000 10:35:12
Message: <3A34F50C.87A71457@pacbell.net>
Warp wrote:

>   Do you understand now?

I have always understood your point. I am the Devil.

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