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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 05:08:19
Message: <3a13b213@news.povray.org>
Hi,
I was trying to make droplets of water on a plane and finally made this
whole scene. But there is something I dislike and I don't know what, do you
?
Baillp
http://baillp.free.fr


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From: Anders Haglund
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 05:13:06
Message: <3a13b332$1@news.povray.org>
Looks very nice! I think it could use some radiosity though.

/Anders

"Pascal Baillehache" <bai### [at] freefr> wrote in message
news:3a13b213@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I was trying to make droplets of water on a plane and finally made this
> whole scene. But there is something I dislike and I don't know what, do
you
> ?
> Baillp
> http://baillp.free.fr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 06:25:12
Message: <chrishuff-3EF0D6.06252616112000@news.povray.org>
In article <3a13b213@news.povray.org>, "Pascal Baillehache" 
<bai### [at] freefr> wrote:

> I was trying to make droplets of water on a plane and finally made 
> this whole scene. But there is something I dislike and I don't know 
> what, do you ?

Are those water drops *supposed* to be star shaped? I suppose so...I 
don't see how that could happen by accident.

Hmm, the bottle doesn't seem quite right...give it a slight surface 
normal and an ior if it doesn't have one. Wrinkles should give it a bit 
of unevenness, like plastic or glass bottles usually have...you normally 
can't see through them without distortion.

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 06:48:05
Message: <3A13C9F2.4E8AD9E9@pacbell.net>
Pascal Baillehache wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I was trying to make droplets of water on a plane and finally made this
> whole scene. But there is something I dislike and I don't know what, do you

The water drops don't appear to be refracting the surface below them.
Try adding an ior statement or increase the value you used.

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 10:09:14
Message: <3A13F89A.11ECDF63@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de>
Ken wrote:
> 
> The water drops don't appear to be refracting the surface below them.
> Try adding an ior statement or increase the value you used.
> 

Same as i thought, you could try some reflection too.

Christoph

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From: Wolfgang Manousek
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:16:56
Message: <3a140878$1@news.povray.org>
some more light/brightness to the overall scene ?
"Pascal Baillehache" <bai### [at] freefr> wrote in message
news:3a13b213@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I was trying to make droplets of water on a plane and finally made this
> whole scene. But there is something I dislike and I don't know what, do
you
> ?
> Baillp
> http://baillp.free.fr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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From: Dennis Clarke
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:31:14
Message: <3A143672.747091E5@interlog.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > The water drops don't appear to be refracting the surface below them.
> > Try adding an ior statement or increase the value you used.
> >
> 

They don't "wet" the paper in way.


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From: Paul Blaszczyk
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 16 Nov 2000 16:26:32
Message: <3A145146.9718397E@alpharay.de>
Try this for the water (i have made this finish from scratch...must be better
than your actually):

finish {
  phong_size 220
  phong 0.2
  roughness 0.001  //or try a smaller value
  specular 0.8
  reflection_type 1
  reflection 0.2
  brilliance 3
}

and the interior:
interior { ior 1.33 }  //..i think you are using this already

Paul


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:58:32
Message: <slrn91aqcc.hu8.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
HTML sux, don't do it.  

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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 17:33:52
Message: <3a15b250@news.povray.org>
to tell the true I've never used it yet .. but one day little pascal ecame a
real pover I promise ! ;)
Baillp

Anders Haglund <sto### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message :
3a13b332$1@news.povray.org...
> Looks very nice! I think it could use some radiosity though.
>
> /Anders
>
> "Pascal Baillehache" <bai### [at] freefr> wrote in message
> news:3a13b213@news.povray.org...
> > Hi,
> > I was trying to make droplets of water on a plane and finally made this
> > whole scene. But there is something I dislike and I don't know what, do
> you
> > ?
> > Baillp
> > http://baillp.free.fr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 17:47:10
Message: <3a15b56e$1@news.povray.org>
> Are those water drops *supposed* to be star shaped? I suppose so...I
> don't see how that could happen by accident.

well, they effectively are, but actually anyone seems to see that drops draw
things on the table :\ but I know how to correct this ...

> Hmm, the bottle doesn't seem quite right...give it a slight surface
> normal and an ior if it doesn't have one. Wrinkles should give it a bit
> of unevenness, like plastic or glass bottles usually have...you normally
> can't see through them without distortion.

for the wrinkle you're probably right but I don't agree for ior cause the
bottle is a plastic one and it seems to me that there is no distortion with
this material, or am I totally wrong ???

Baillp


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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 17:47:12
Message: <3a15b570@news.povray.org>
> They don't "wet" the paper in way.

yes I've thought at putting water on the real paper sheet I've scanned and
finally didn't do it but it would be easily to make it ...

Baillp


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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 17:47:13
Message: <3a15b571@news.povray.org>
many thanls I'm gonna try this right now ..

Baillp

Paul Blaszczyk <3d### [at] alpharayde> a écrit dans le message :
3A145146.9718397E@alpharay.de...
> Try this for the water (i have made this finish from scratch...must be
better
> than your actually):
>
> finish {
>   phong_size 220
>   phong 0.2
>   roughness 0.001  file://or try a smaller value
>   specular 0.8
>   reflection_type 1
>   reflection 0.2
>   brilliance 3
> }
>
> and the interior:
> interior { ior 1.33 }  file://..i think you are using this already
>
> Paul
>


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 20:15:48
Message: <chrishuff-A8B445.20160517112000@news.povray.org>
In article <3a15b56e$1@news.povray.org>, "Pascal Baillehache" 
<bai### [at] freefr> wrote:

> well, they effectively are, but actually anyone seems to see that 
> drops draw things on the table :\ but I know how to correct this ...

I noticed some other odd shapes, but they didn't make much 
sense...something that looks like a moon to the left, some pretty odd 
formations in the back, a pair of "somethings" to the right of the 
moon...


> for the wrinkle you're probably right but I don't agree for ior cause 
> the bottle is a plastic one and it seems to me that there is no 
> distortion with this material, or am I totally wrong ???

You are wrong. Take a bottle and look closely at it: objects seen 
through it appear slightly distorted because of the variations in 
thickness and surface features. The distortion isn't much because the 
material is so thin, but it is definitely there and could give a lot of 
dimension to your bottle.

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 17 Nov 2000 23:58:59
Message: <3A160C29.72B2D0A0@faricy.net>
Chris Huff wrote:

> I noticed some other odd shapes, but they didn't make much
> sense...something that looks like a moon to the left, some pretty odd
> formations in the back, a pair of "somethings" to the right of the
> moon...

I see a palm tree, a star, a bikini, something resembling a fuzzy hat or a
truffle or something (over the word project), and some large fancy
indistinguishable shape in the back.

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 18 Nov 2000 08:39:36
Message: <chrishuff-49005D.08395418112000@news.povray.org>
In article <3A160C29.72B2D0A0@faricy.net>, David Fontaine 
<dav### [at] faricynet> wrote:

> I see a palm tree, a star, a bikini, something resembling a fuzzy hat 
> or a truffle or something (over the word project), and some large 
> fancy indistinguishable shape in the back.

Hmm, if you see a palm tree(I think I see one on the left...my "moon" 
was a leaf) and a bikini, the stars are probably starfish. A hat? Maybe 
some kind of shell...

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 18 Nov 2000 14:02:09
Message: <3a16d231@news.povray.org>
yes that's it except for the fuzzy hat wich is nothing particular, but I
still admit it isn't really viewable ... the shape in the back is waves, I'm
going to change all of that in the next release
Baillp

> I see a palm tree, a star, a bikini, something resembling a fuzzy hat or a
> truffle or something (over the word project), and some large fancy
> indistinguishable shape in the back.


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From: Pascal Baillehache
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 18 Nov 2000 14:02:10
Message: <3a16d232@news.povray.org>
> Hmm, if you see a palm tree(I think I see one on the left...my "moon"
> was a leaf) and a bikini, the stars are probably starfish. A hat? Maybe
> some kind of shell...

as said on the french povray news, it could be a good Rorschach test isn't
it ? ;)
Baillp


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From: Dennis Clarke
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 19 Nov 2000 20:12:11
Message: <3A187ADB.436E0CA1@interlog.com>
Pascal Baillehache wrote:
> 
> > They don't "wet" the paper in way.
> 
> yes I've thought at putting water on the real paper sheet I've scanned and
> finally didn't do it but it would be easily to make it ...
> 
> Baillp


I'm not exactly sure how to model paper that is "wet".  I think a
numerical approach to some viscous fluid flowing via capillary action
within a fibre based substance would be required.  On the other hand an
exact model is rarely required for artistic purposes and maybe just a
grey region around the water puddle would suffice.

Dennis


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: I want hollydays !
Date: 19 Nov 2000 20:30:44
Message: <chrishuff-CC4F2D.20310419112000@news.povray.org>
In article <3A187ADB.436E0CA1@interlog.com>, dcl### [at] interlogcom 
wrote:

> I'm not exactly sure how to model paper that is "wet".  I think a
> numerical approach to some viscous fluid flowing via capillary action
> within a fibre based substance would be required.  On the other hand an
> exact model is rarely required for artistic purposes and maybe just a
> grey region around the water puddle would suffice.

In MegaPOV, you could use the "object" pattern to make the areas covered 
by water a different color...an exact simulation would definitely be 
overkill for this.

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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