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On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:56:56 +0100, John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmail com>
wrote:
Sorry, question has nothing to image but I have to ask:
Logo has JRV for me but I read JVS from your initials. So what is R ?
ABX
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"John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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As you may or may not know, there is considerable concern in the UK (can't speak
for elsewhere) about the treatment of the prisoners in Cuba - glad to see that
such concerns are without foundation ;)
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*lol*
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<clap-clap-clap> Very funny, Mr. VanSickle! Thanks! :) I say we shave his
beard off too.
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So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
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Nice image, pretty good idea, nice clean image.
I'm sure the prisoners are being treat much better than they deserve and
much better than they treated the CIA agent that they tortured and killed.
Tom Melly wrote:
> "John VanSickle" <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:3C470258.4062E692@hotmail.com...
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>>ICQ: 46085459
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> As you may or may not know, there is considerable concern in the UK (can't speak
> for elsewhere) about the treatment of the prisoners in Cuba - glad to see that
> such concerns are without foundation ;)
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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:34:40
Message: <3c474370@news.povray.org>
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JRG schrieb in Nachricht <3c473b04@news.povray.org>...
>So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
No.
Marc-Hendrik
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No
Mathieu
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The sad fact is that folks of John's mindset run prisons around the world:
From an Amnesty report on Turkey:
>>In 1999, Amnesty International received a number of reports of
unacknowledged detention and torture of Kurdish villagers. For example,
between 8 and 12 June some 50 people from Tilkiler and four other villages
in the Kahraman Maras province, Törolar, Çöçenler, Sall_usa__ and Musolar,
were taken into detention at the Pazarc_k Gendarmerie Command and reportedly
severely beaten and otherwise tortured. Methods of torture included being
forced to eat human excrement, being suspended by their arms which were tied
behind their backs, being truncheoned and being sprayed with pressurized
water. One of the detainees disclosed to his lawyer that: ''They did not
take us to toilets, so that we had to excrete where we were hung. We were
covered with excrement as we could not clean ourselves while we were hung.
Later, they put excrement on the truncheon, and inserted the truncheon into
my mouth. They inserted the truncheon into my anus [...] throughout the
eight days they forced me to sit naked on the concrete floor, and without
allowing me to lie down''.
<<
From an Amnesty report on China:
>>. He was detained again, denied food, hung upside down, whipped and beaten
with wooden clubs and burned with cigarette butts. He reportedly became
doubly incontinent, his body covered in excrement. The officials reportedly
then branded his lower body with soldering irons, tied wire around his
genitals and ripped off his penis. Zhou died on 15 May 1998. <<
Those who follow Jesus, OTOH, are reminded in Hebrews:
"Remember those in prison as if you were their fellow prisoners, and those
who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering."
Those who are able to remember mistreatment as if they themselves were
mistreated can turn to:
http://www.vom.com.au/aboutus/pages/purposes.html
http://amnesty.org
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"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> escribió en el mensaje
news:3c473b04@news.povray.org...
> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
No
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Txemi Jendrix
tji### [at] euskalnetnet
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JRG wrote:
> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
No.
Fabien.
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JRG wrote:
> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
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No.
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no
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:58:36 +0100, JRG wrote:
>So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
No, but I am glad that he has the right to post it.
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From: Fernando González del Cueto
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 17 Jan 2002 23:24:00
Message: <3c47a360$1@news.povray.org>
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No.
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"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3c473b04@news.povray.org...
> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
I found it tasteless, unseemly and funny. But then I have all the "Truly
Tasteless Jokes" books...
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"Greg M. Johnson" <gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote :
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> The sad fact is that folks of John's mindset run prisons around the world:
People who make a joke of something are not necessarily of the "mindset"
of people who would actually do the same thing. The sad fact is that your
humorless, self-satisfied spiritual pride is more typical of the "mind-set"
of people who would actually -do- such things.
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
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> "Greg M. Johnson" <gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote :
> >
> > The sad fact is that folks of John's mindset run prisons around the world:
>
> People who make a joke of something are not necessarily of the "mindset"
> of people who would actually do the same thing. The sad fact is that your
> humorless, self-satisfied spiritual pride is more typical of the "mind-set"
> of people who would actually -do- such things.
Greg: It's VERY different from pretzel jokes, ok, man? So git
wid it.
-peter
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Current obsession: "Ballet pour ma fille."
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"Dearmad" <dea### [at] applesnakenet> wrote :
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> Greg: It's VERY different from pretzel jokes, ok, man? So git
> wid it.
Did I ever accuse anyone of actually trying to choke anyone? Or even of
being of the "mindset' of someone who would? I didn't think so, thank you.
Of course there -were- no -real- choking jokes here, just some smarmy
comments implying a wish that Bush would choke, which I simply commented on.
I did not accuse anyone of the type of cruelty Greg linked to John.
Follow up to OT
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My surname is VanSickle. I capitalize the S but I don't include it in
my initials. I suppose that in the Netherlands the V is not
capitalized by people who hav that as part of their names (or maybe it
is).
The R stands for my middle name (Robert).
Regards,
John
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Tony[B] wrote:
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> <clap-clap-clap> Very funny, Mr. VanSickle! Thanks! :) I say we shave
> his beard off too.
The Taliban who were shipped to Cuba were shaved, for hygiene reasons.
The spokesman for the US government pointed out that there is no
Koranic requirement for men to have beards, ergo the shaving did not
violate the religion the men professed to have.
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From: Thomas Willhalm
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 18 Jan 2002 02:20:20
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JRG wrote:
> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
no
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> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
Looks like a VMS error message. Ever worked on this OS?
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> I'm sure the prisoners are being treat much better than they deserve and
> much better than they treated the CIA agent that they tortured and killed.
>
Poor agent.
Simen.
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> "Greg M. Johnson" <gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote :
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> > The sad fact is that folks of John's mindset run prisons around the
world:
>
> People who make a joke of something are not necessarily of the
"mindset"
> of people who would actually do the same thing. The sad fact is that your
> humorless, self-satisfied spiritual pride is more typical of the
"mind-set"
> of people who would actually -do- such things.
>
You know that's bulls**t as much as I do.
Simen.
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"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
No, for Christ's sake! :(
Simen.
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> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
The tasteless thing is when people treat each other really bad. Someone did
a really tasteless deed at Sept 11 that I couldn't imagine in my worst
dreams. No justice can be expected to come out of this, only more violence,
when people have to fight people. But it seems to me that those who love to
fight are worse than those who don't. No matter where on earth they come
from cause they can be found everywhere. Mankind should persue better
qualities. And some do this. For example, some believes it's not our job to
do justice all by ourselves. It always makes someone else feel we step on
them. Many believes it's better to learn not to hate, not to use violence,
but do good things that does not harm.. Some believes there might be a God,
although silent at the moment, who will do justice.
But I realize this topics are ... off topics.. I don't wish to be flamed or
start a discussion you know, but you may consider it a comment to the
picture.
Hugo
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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 18 Jan 2002 05:16:52
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JRG wrote:
> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
I see it as an enormous simplification of a very complex situation. I'm
not really much surprised: my expectations about the human condition are
really low, starting with myself.
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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And make him wear a berkha (sp?)!
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Mahalis wrote:
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> And make him wear a berkha (sp?)!
Burqa.
Deaken (who only knows because of an interesting usenet thread that briefly
touched on that topic)
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> And make him wear a berkha (sp?)!
That sounds more appropriate for Omar than Bin Laden, but yeah, wouldn't
hurt. :)
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Juergen Scharfy wrote:
>>%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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> Looks like a VMS error message. Ever worked on this OS?
Cisco IOS error messages also (almost) fit that format.
follow-ups set.
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I find I have a deep seated anger at the atrocity of Sept 11. I recall reading
that a partisan in this cried that "the streets of America would stink with the
dead." And then it came true. The image in question is a gut level response.
And I for one finds that it resonates with my own feelings.
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No.
We (people from democracy) must be very proud of (and vigilant) the respect
of laws and persons. This is the strongest massage we can send to those who
intend to bring back our world to ignorance and brutality.
Middle ages should stay in the past, as well as far west.
Chaps.
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> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:30:12 +0100, Juergen Scharfy wrote:
>> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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>Looks like a VMS error message. Ever worked on this OS?
This is just my PC, my real computer's a VAX.
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"Simen Kvaal" <sim### [at] remove_mestudentmatnatuiono> wrote :
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> You know that's bulls**t as much as I do.
So you feel that the folks who did Monte Python -really- want to go
around cutting off people's limbs? Robin Williams did a long improv about
crippled people baking in the sun, do you think he has the "mindset" of
someone who would really tie a legless man out in the dessert? I heard a
doctor joke about getting a phone call while operating on someone's
intestines and having them trail behind him as he left surgery, do you think
that he wants to kill people by disembowelment?
More to the point, do you think that John is the type of person who
would torture a prisoner? Do you think that you can tell this about him by
his joke?
Follow ups set -again-...
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Absolutely not.
Senseless violence is in no way the answer to senseless violence.
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<use### [at] domaininvalid> wrote in message news:3C4### [at] domaininvalid...
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> I'm sure the prisoners are being treat much better than they deserve and
> much better than they treated the CIA agent that they tortured and killed.
>
That's not the point, but if you think it is, more fool you.
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From: Stephen Bell
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 18 Jan 2002 11:50:02
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It seems to me that by making these pictures we only make everyone more
angry. I realize it's a statement about how we are all feeling, but it also
becomes propaganda. I think all of us as artists have a responsibility not
to encourage the public to think in negative, violent ways. They can do
that enough on their own.
Stephen
http://students.oc.edu/stephen.bell/
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> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
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: So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
No.
Pierrick
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JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
: So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
Am I the only one who does *not* find this picture tasteless?
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> So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
Definetly not.
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3c48c229@news.povray.org...
> JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
> Am I the only one who does *not* find this picture tasteless?
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No.
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No.
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I don't think this is the right group for such discussion. We should definitely
continue this thread on p.o-t. I just expressed my personal opinion and didn't expect
all those me-too's responses here.
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3c48c229@news.povray.org...
> JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
> Am I the only one who does *not* find this picture tasteless?
>
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"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote:
> So you feel that the folks who did Monte Python -really- want to go
> around cutting off people's limbs? Robin Williams did a long improv about
> crippled people baking in the sun, do you think he has the "mindset" of
> someone who would really tie a legless man out in the dessert?
Absolutely not! I was not even hinting at it. I was reacting to the comment:
>>>"The sad fact is that your
>>> humorless, self-satisfied spiritual pride is more typical of the
>>>"mind-set"
>>> of people who would actually -do- such things.
as Greg M. Johnson stated. I should have cut off the quotation a litte bit
earlier, leaving out the "mindset"-part, then my reaction would be clearer.
But on the other hand, I cannot interpret mr. VanSickles original posting as
a mere burlesque joke, referring to the subject-line he chose.
regards,
Simen.
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"Simen Kvaal" <sim### [at] remove_mestudentmatnatuiono> wrote in message
news:3c4afbc5@news.povray.org...
> "Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote:
> > So you feel that the folks who did Monte Python -really- want to go
> > around cutting off people's limbs? Robin Williams did a long improv
about
> > crippled people baking in the sun, do you think he has the "mindset" of
> > someone who would really tie a legless man out in the dessert?
>
> Absolutely not! I was not even hinting at it. I was reacting to the
comment:
>
> >>>"The sad fact is that your
> >>> humorless, self-satisfied spiritual pride is more typical of the
> >>>"mind-set"
> >>> of people who would actually -do- such things.
>
> as Greg M. Johnson stated.
And this is what you find to be BS? You must have missed most of the
religious wars in this little world.
> But on the other hand, I cannot interpret mr. VanSickles original posting
as
> a mere burlesque joke, referring to the subject-line he chose.
This says more about you than it does about him.
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The sign of a civalized society is how it treats it's enemies. Don't
let yourself be brought down by the actions of others.
Oliver
John VanSickle wrote:
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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: For those who oppose the death penalty
Date: 21 Jan 2002 08:53:43
Message: <3c4c1d67@news.povray.org>
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3c48c229@news.povray.org...
> JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : So, am I the only one who finds this kind of things tasteless?
>
> Am I the only one who does *not* find this picture tasteless?
>
Reminds me of Loony Toons ;o)
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#local X=20*<-2,2,5>;sphere_sweep{catmull_rom_spline 6<-8,-8>1<-8,-8>1<-8,8>1<
8,-8>1<8,8>1<8,8>1translate 20*z pigment{gradient z scale 3color_map{[0rgb<0,9
,18>][1rgb 0]}}}#local K=2*z*X-X;#local R=seed(clock);blob{#while(K.x>X.x)
#local N=X+<rand(R)rand(R)1>/3;#local X=(vlength(N-K)<vlength(X-K)?N:2*X-N);
sphere{X,1,1rotate z*90}sphere{X,1,1}#end pigment{rgbt 1}interior{media{//Nekar
emission<2,4,5>*5}}hollow scale.05}// http://nekar_xenos.tripod.com/metanoia/
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