Last image. Sorry for the big image...


Comments?



Robert

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Robert Günther schrieb:
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> Last image. Sorry for the big image...
> 
> Comments?

Oh, you've done it. Looks nixe, good quality render. To improve it a
little bit more, vary the individual flames a little (different
turbulence, slight rotations and so on).

By the way: How did you _do_ those flames?

Markus

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> Oh, you've done it. Looks nixe, good quality render. To improve it a
> little bit more, vary the individual flames a little (different
> turbulence, slight rotations and so on).
>
> By the way: How did you _do_ those flames?
>
> Markus

Thanks,

the flames were made following the instructions from Jens Nober (thanks
for the source code, Jens).
Was a little bit difficult for me to convert to moray texture-editor


Robert

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Nice, but some surrounding would definitely help IMO.

The brightness of the candles (wax) seems to vary, any reason for that?

Christoph

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Robert Günther wrote:
> Last image. Sorry for the big image...

Nice job. The atmosphere, reflections and candle holder model look good.

If you want to strive for perfect image:
-the candlewicks are too clean and sharp. They look too much like
cylinders.
-the material of the candles looks a bit like plastic, especially on the
lowest one, that is also darkest. Too clean, too sharp. Have you tried
blobs? I think making the candle main cylinder of blob and then
subtracting the concave middle with small sphere could work. Or then the
all-famous ISO surfaces...

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Jari Juslin schrieb:

> Robert Günther wrote:
> > Last image. Sorry for the big image...
>
> Nice job. The atmosphere, reflections and candle holder model look good.
>
> If you want to strive for perfect image:
> -the candlewicks are too clean and sharp. They look too much like
> cylinders.

That's what they are. I know, i`m unlucky with them.. Trying to change that


>
> -the material of the candles looks a bit like plastic, especially on the
> lowest one, that is also darkest. Too clean, too sharp. Have you tried
> blobs? I think making the candle main cylinder of blob and then
> subtracting the concave middle with small sphere could work. Or then the
> all-famous ISO surfaces...

oh Lord, ISO sosurface.. not familiar with that so far ;-)

(but i´m trying)

Robert

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Christoph Hormann schrieb:

> Nice, but some surrounding would definitely help IMO.

Yes, have another pic with surroundings (more light). But the rendering
time is very long.... (about 6 hr)

>
>
> The brightness of the candles (wax) seems to vary, any reason for that?

No, i´m concerned by my own. Don`t know, what the problem is. I have set in
every flame a point light. But it looks definitely wrong!
Lit up my original candle holder, put it on the carpet and looked at it...

Seems to look as in my render, but there isn`t a change in the brightness
of the candles...  ?????


Robert

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> Christoph
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> > Nice, but some surrounding would definitely help IMO.
>
> Yes, have another pic with surroundings (more light). But the rendering
> time is very long.... (about 6 hr)

On older picture. Not the same flames (not as good as the ones as in the night
picture before IMO) .

Robert

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Now that's what I wanted to see. But, where's the cool shadows it must be
casting?

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Robert Günther wrote:
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> > > Nice, but some surrounding would definitely help IMO.
> >
> > Yes, have another pic with surroundings (more light). But the rendering
> > time is very long.... (about 6 hr)
> 
> On older picture. Not the same flames (not as good as the ones as in the night
> picture before IMO) .
> 

I like the general appearance more, of course the other one is much better
concerning the flames.  For the different brightness of the candles try
light fading for the candle light sources.  

Christoph

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Robert Günther wrote:
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> >
> > -the material of the candles looks a bit like plastic, especially on the
> > lowest one, that is also darkest. Too clean, too sharp. Have you tried
> > blobs? I think making the candle main cylinder of blob and then
> > subtracting the concave middle with small sphere could work. Or then the
> > all-famous ISO surfaces...
> 
> oh Lord, ISO sosurface.. not familiar with that so far ;-)
> 

In this case a simple good old lathe object would be perfectly
sufficient.  It's much easier to handle than an isosurface.

BTW, you should say isosurface instead of ISO surface, because this has
nothing to do with the International Organization for Standardization.

Christoph

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If you wanted to vary the wicks just a little bit, you could take a section
of torus and make them look bent.  Just an idea.

Stephen

"Jari Juslin" <zds### [at] ikifi> wrote in message news:3AC4EC2F.D60B18BA@iki.fi...
> Robert Günther wrote:
> > Last image. Sorry for the big image...
>
> Nice job. The atmosphere, reflections and candle holder model look good.
>
> If you want to strive for perfect image:
> -the candlewicks are too clean and sharp. They look too much like
> cylinders.
> -the material of the candles looks a bit like plastic, especially on the
> lowest one, that is also darkest. Too clean, too sharp. Have you tried
> blobs? I think making the candle main cylinder of blob and then
> subtracting the concave middle with small sphere could work. Or then the
> all-famous ISO surfaces...
>
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> >
> > oh Lord, ISO sosurface.. not familiar with that so far ;-)
> >
>
> In this case a simple good old lathe object would be perfectly
> sufficient.  It's much easier to handle than an isosurface.
>
> BTW, you should say isosurface instead of ISO surface, because this has
> nothing to do with the International Organization for Standardization.
>
> Christoph

Yes, you're right ;-)

Robert

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Stephen Bell schrieb:

> If you wanted to vary the wicks just a little bit, you could take a section
> of torus and make them look bent.  Just an idea.
>

Well, this might work..

Robert

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