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From: Alberto
Subject: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 09:17:45
Message: <3A869EF4.19CA765A@usb.ve>
Hi.

It started as an exercise on how to make a book. At the end, this scene
came out.

Alberto


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 09:31:23
Message: <3a86a23b@news.povray.org>
The lighting is a bit strange. Is it possible, that the lamp shade has the
"no_shadow" applied? I would expect, that the room is darker above the
shadow of that ring. The cup and the candle holder are a bit to shiny and
reflective, I think.

But that all doesn't really matter. It's almost photorealistic! That book
cover looks really good and the table is just ... realistic.

Good work!

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 10:24:23
Message: <qebd8t8g0g91ncr09dp1ntnihcta1dd84t@4ax.com>
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:31:12 +0100 Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:

>It's almost photorealistic! That book
>cover looks really good and the table is just ... realistic.

  I agree. Alberto's paper book cover texture is perfect. I can't figure
out what those seed-like objects are in that glass tray, though.

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From: AC
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 10:32:53
Message: <3a86b0a5$1@news.povray.org>
"Alan Kong" <ako### [at] povrayNO-SPAMorg> wrote in message

>   I agree. Alberto's paper book cover texture is perfect. I can't figure
> out what those seed-like objects are in that glass tray, though.
>
How about peanuts, looks a lot like them.

Ambis


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From: Dave Blandston
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 10:44:54
Message: <3a86b376@news.povray.org>
"AC" <amb### [at] teliacom> wrote in message news:3a86b0a5$1@news.povray.org...
> How about peanuts, looks a lot like them.

Almond halves?

By the way, what are those other objects reflected in the lamp base?

Very nice picture! Have you tried rendering it with radiosity?

Regards,
Dave


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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 10:58:01
Message: <78dd8tcvu846mvfpa693rjfgffdcqnjclv@4ax.com>
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:17:24 -0400, Alberto <jac### [at] usbve> wrote:

>It started as an exercise on how to make a book. At the end, this scene
>came out.

An excellent scene - and very appropriate. I am sure the book is real, where can
I get one?  

Don't like the shiny floor though and the vase(?) is rather strange and detracts
from the scene.
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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 13:08:51
Message: <3A86D4FF.8DE99766@vip.cybercity.dk>
Finally something that raytraces with a bit of realism. Good work! I
wish ALL raytraced pictures were easy to give a real look. It *should*
actually be easy! Everything in reality, looks real. Even the most clean
white ball.

And now, computer speed has reached gigahertz measurements. It's time to
rewrite raytracers to use "real" formulas. Especially for lighting.
Well, maybe a provoking comment... Never mind... I like this picture but
I'm sure it's been a battle to adjust everything for the "real look".

Hugo


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 13:24:07
Message: <3a86d8c7$1@news.povray.org>
First I thought, they were stones of plums, but after a closer look I would
agree with peanuts. A bit too big though, or those "Jumbos".

Marc-Hendrik

AC schrieb in Nachricht <3a86b0a5$1@news.povray.org>...
>
>"Alan Kong" <ako### [at] povrayNO-SPAMorg> wrote in message
>
>>   I agree. Alberto's paper book cover texture is perfect. I can't figure
>> out what those seed-like objects are in that glass tray, though.
>>
>How about peanuts, looks a lot like them.
>
>Ambis
>
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>
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>


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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: SV: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 13:44:13
Message: <3a86dd7d$1@news.povray.org>
Nice!
I especially like the peanut-bowl-thing, and the reflections in the lamp.
The table texture is perfect! Wanna share it? ;-)

--
Peter
http://hertel.no/bigone


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From: Dave Blandston
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 13:57:38
Message: <3a86e0a2@news.povray.org>
"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
news:3a86d8c7$1@news.povray.org...
> First I thought, they were stones of plums, but after a closer look I
would
> agree with peanuts. A bit too big though, or those "Jumbos".

Yeah, after looking closer I agree also that they must be peanuts. Almonds
are darker brown with an off-white center.


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 14:13:03
Message: <3A86E43E.247245A2@gmx.de>
That looks good, i really like the finishes of all the objects.  Of course
radiosity would be worth trying for the darker areas.  

Christoph

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IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
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From: Alberto
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 16:42:20
Message: <3A870739.A3C247F9@usb.ve>
Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> 
> The lighting is a bit strange. Is it possible, that the lamp shade has the
> "no_shadow" applied? ...

The light source of the lamp looks like a cone with double_illuminate
modifier. So you are right, there is a no_shadow in effect. But above
this cone I put another semi-transparent cone to make the lampshade cast
a shadow.


> I would expect, that the room is darker above the
> shadow of that ring. The cup and the candle holder are a bit to shiny and
> reflective, I think.
> 

Mmhhh, may be. I'll see what can I do.

> But that all doesn't really matter. It's almost photorealistic! That book
> cover looks really good and the table is just ... realistic.
> 
> Good work!
> 
> Marc-Hendrik

Thank you!

Alberto.


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From: Alberto
Subject: Re: SV: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 16:42:31
Message: <3A87074A.649315E7@usb.ve>
Peter Hertel wrote:
> 
> Nice!
> I especially like the peanut-bowl-thing, and the reflections in the lamp.
> The table texture is perfect! Wanna share it? ;-)
> 
> --
> Peter
> http://hertel.no/bigone

Thanks for your comments. Bellow is the table texture but sometimes, a
texture which works fine in a scene doesn't in another.

texture{
	finish{phong 1  reflection .075}
	pigment{wood  color_map{[0 rgb <1, .5, 0>][1 rgb .9*<1, .5, 0>]}
		ramp_wave  scale 5  rotate <0 90 0>
		warp{turbulence .0625  octaves 6  omega 3  lambda .35}
		translate  50/6*z
		warp{repeat 50/3*z offset <75,20,0>}
		translate -50/6*z
	}
}
texture{
	normal{wood .2
		ramp_wave  scale .5  rotate <0 90 0>
		warp{turbulence .0625  octaves 6  omega 3  lambda .35}
		translate  50/6*z
		warp{repeat 50/3*z offset <75,20,0>}
		translate -50/6*z
	}
	pigment{wood  color_map{[0 rgbf .75*<1,.5,0,1>][1 rgbf 1*<1,.5,0,1>]}
		scallop_wave  scale .5  rotate <0 90 0>
		warp{turbulence .0625  octaves 6  omega 3  lambda .35}
		translate  50/6*z
		warp{repeat 50/3*z offset <75,20,0>}
		translate -50/6*z
	}
}


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From: Alberto
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 16:42:43
Message: <3A870755.96B60492@usb.ve>
Dave Blandston wrote:
> 
> "Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
> news:3a86d8c7$1@news.povray.org...
> > First I thought, they were stones of plums, but after a closer look I
> would
> > agree with peanuts. A bit too big though, or those "Jumbos".
> 
> Yeah, after looking closer I agree also that they must be peanuts. Almonds
> are darker brown with an off-white center.

In mi mind their are peanuts. But I'll make them smaller.

Alberto


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From: Alberto
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 16:45:21
Message: <3A8707F3.5B048559@usb.ve>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> That looks good, i really like the finishes of all the objects...

Thank you.

> ... Of course
> radiosity would be worth trying for the darker areas.

I did some teste with radiosity but with little succes. I'll start a
final version of the scene and I'll post the results.

Alberto.


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From: October
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 20:21:20
Message: <3a873a90@news.povray.org>
Very nice!

I'm still trying to guess exactly how you accomplished the "worn" look on
the book cover?
Very nice coffee too.  About the only thing that jumped out at me was the
spoon.  Maybe a bit more metallic looking?

"Alberto" <jac### [at] usbve> wrote in message news:3A869EF4.19CA765A@usb.ve...
> Hi.
>
> It started as an exercise on how to make a book. At the end, this scene
> came out.
>
> Alberto


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 22:15:11
Message: <chrishuff-1AD800.22154011022001@news.povray.org>
In article <3A86D4FF.8DE99766@vip.cybercity.dk>, Hugo 
<cfp### [at] vipcybercitydk> wrote:

> And now, computer speed has reached gigahertz measurements. It's time to
> rewrite raytracers to use "real" formulas. Especially for lighting.

What exactly do you mean? Spectral color calculations instead of RGB 
based ones? Physically based BRDF functions? Physically accurate 
lighting calculations (polarization, dispersion, diffraction, etc...)?

If you want "correct" results using "real" equations, you will have to 
use "real" parameters and settings, and probably a new way of specifying 
texture and interior...and the result would not be fast and may not 
really be easier to use. And you would also have to find someone with 
the knowledge and time to write it all...

As it is, POV can produce extremely realistic looking images, and with a 
few additions could be improved further...there isn't any need to use 
completely accurate equations everywhere or simulate every lighting 
effect. That would just slow things down and get in the way of people 
who just want to make "pretty pictures".

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 11 Feb 2001 22:37:40
Message: <3A875A48.B3B347B9@faricy.net>
I like the smooth look. The turbulence in the wood is perfect!
The shade must be pretty thin (or translucent, as it were) because it doesn't
cast much of a shadow. That's my one nitpick.

I really hate the glare on this monitor. I put my hands up to the screen and
the reflections in the lamp just jumped out. They're pretty sweet!

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My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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From: Saadat Saeed
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 12 Feb 2001 00:20:35
Message: <3a8772a3@news.povray.org>
love the ashtry!
"Alberto" <jac### [at] usbve> wrote in message news:3A869EF4.19CA765A@usb.ve...
> Hi.
>
> It started as an exercise on how to make a book. At the end, this scene
> came out.
>
> Alberto


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From: Saadat Saeed
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 12 Feb 2001 00:21:58
Message: <3a8772f6@news.povray.org>
Those look like almond shells to me!
BR.Saadat

"Alan Kong" <ako### [at] povrayNO-SPAMorg> wrote in message
news:qebd8t8g0g91ncr09dp1ntnihcta1dd84t@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:31:12 +0100 Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
>
> >It's almost photorealistic! That book
> >cover looks really good and the table is just ... realistic.
>
>   I agree. Alberto's paper book cover texture is perfect. I can't figure
> out what those seed-like objects are in that glass tray, though.
>
> --
> Alan - ako### [at] povrayorg - a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
> http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer


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From: Simen Kvaal
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 12 Feb 2001 15:06:19
Message: <3a88423b@news.povray.org>
>   I agree. Alberto's paper book cover texture is perfect. I can't figure
> out what those seed-like objects are in that glass tray, though.

Fisherman's Friend.

:)

~simenkv.


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From: C J 
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 13 Feb 2001 11:30:21
Message: <3a89611d$1@news.povray.org>
Wonderful! I love the finish on the book.

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Alberto <jac### [at] usbve> wrote in message news:3A869EF4.19CA765A@usb.ve...
> Hi.
>
> It started as an exercise on how to make a book. At the end, this scene
> came out.
>
> Alberto


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From: Alberto
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 13 Feb 2001 19:38:24
Message: <3A89D382.9599ACF0@usb.ve>
"C.J." wrote:
> 
> Wonderful! I love the finish on the book.
> 
> --
> C.J. POV User

Thank you.

The book cover texture is an agate normal with a little bit of phong.

Alberto.


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From: C J 
Subject: Re: a book
Date: 14 Feb 2001 09:50:42
Message: <3a8a9b42$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks!

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Alberto <jac### [at] usbve> wrote in message news:3A89D382.9599ACF0@usb.ve...
>
>
> "C.J." wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful! I love the finish on the book.
> >
> > --
> > C.J. POV User
>
> Thank you.
>
> The book cover texture is an agate normal with a little bit of phong.
>
> Alberto.


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