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From: H E  Day
Subject: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 30 Jan 2001 22:29:43
Message: <3A77869F.E91639EE@heday.freeservers.com>
Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
P200
100% POVRay!!

Comments?

H.E. Day
<><


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 30 Jan 2001 22:40:24
Message: <3a778928@news.povray.org>
How ... How ...? How can you possibly do this? Will you please stop making
me feel like a beginner? We know you're good... stop outdoing yourself...
:__(   wahh.... <sob>


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 30 Jan 2001 22:55:49
Message: <3A778CB0.A7DAAF13@faricy.net>
Even if not totally realistic, this is quite amazing! The ships and the
meteors have detail down to the pixel level, even the crandishness of
the rings. Stylistically I think it's perfect, very crisp with fine
attention to color.

One of the best POV pics I've ever seen.

--
David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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From: Saadat Saeed
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 00:27:06
Message: <3a77a22a@news.povray.org>
Wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww!

<<<<OOOO>>>>> my mouth is still wide open.... a fly might just get in.

Btw; if the main sun is right behind; why does the crater have a shadow to
the other side.

Regards

Saadat Saeed


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From: Ben Paschke
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 00:50:55
Message: <3A77A825.3D02ADCE@rsp.com.au>
Very impressive and very nice attention to detail.
    Do/did you have a homepage? you must have an impressive body of pov
work by now..


"H.E. Day" wrote:

> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
>
> Comments?
>
> H.E. Day
> ???


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 01:53:50
Message: <3A77B67D.C5C4B23B@gmx.de>
"H.E. Day" wrote:
> 
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
> 
> Comments?
> 

It looks really good, some thoughts: 

- antialiasing would have done very nice to some parts of the scene,
although others of course would have suffered from it.  

- the explosion IMO is not very realistic for space.  It looks more like
exploding gasoline.  Anyway it looks quite impressive.  

- The rings have quite sharp borders.

- the rocks look really nice, could you have some words how you made them?

- I'm a bit confused by the lighting, do you use radiosity (i suppose not
with 7h32m)

- I much like the ships, any chance for a large size render of a single
one to see the details?

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 02:06:53
Message: <3a77b98d$1@news.povray.org>
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!

Hmmm...
Incredible :-)
But I don't really like the explosion, it looks too solid.

You say 100% POV, does this include the lensflare?  And if so: have you used
my "50-300mmZooom.lfx"-file ?

cu!


--
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf


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From: David
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 03:55:02
Message: <3A77D2F0.535B286F@bigfoot.com>
Wow ! It's perfect, wonderful, incredible and..and.. !!

Can we see the 2400x1200 render !? 8-b~~


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From: Thomas
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 08:17:36
Message: <3A78106C.5011EBA6@gmx.net>
hmm, not bad...... ;-)



Thomas

"H.E. Day" wrote:

> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
>
> Comments?
>
> H.E. Day
> <><


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 11:10:16
Message: <3A783818.A6677F35@u.arizona.edu>
http://heday.freeservers.com/

Ben Paschke wrote:

> Very impressive and very nice attention to detail.
>     Do/did you have a homepage? you must have an impressive body of pov
> work by now..
>
> "H.E. Day" wrote:
>
> > Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> > http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> > The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> > P200
> > 100% POVRay!!
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > H.E. Day
> > ???


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From: Ross Litscher
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 11:41:30
Message: <3a78403a$1@news.povray.org>
Ya... the explosion does look a little ouf of place. When will NASA just go
blow something up in space so we can see for real what it looks like.

Antialiasing would be nice too.

But the rocks... those are just insane. You could just make a picture of a
bunch of those floating around in space and it would look great.


> It looks really good, some thoughts:
>
> - antialiasing would have done very nice to some parts of the scene,
> although others of course would have suffered from it.
>
> - the explosion IMO is not very realistic for space.  It looks more like
> exploding gasoline.  Anyway it looks quite impressive.
>
> - The rings have quite sharp borders.
>
> - the rocks look really nice, could you have some words how you made them?
>
> - I'm a bit confused by the lighting, do you use radiosity (i suppose not
> with 7h32m)
>
> - I much like the ships, any chance for a large size render of a single
> one to see the details?
>
> Christoph


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From: Ben Birdsey
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 11:53:46
Message: <3A7843F5.117002A4@mail.com>
Looks pretty excellent!  I really love your sense of design.  I just
checked out your website and was reminded of all the cool stuff I've
seen coming from your direction.

	-- I loved the planetary rings

	-- I loved the emense sense of scale that slight
	   curvature of the planet and the rings bring out

	-- *I* like the explosion, but it might work just as well
	   if it were a bit more transparent.


	But, of course, I do have a few gripes.

	-- This space scene should probably be a little more stark.
	   I mean, the shadows should look almost pitch black, cause
	   almost all the light from the scene is coming from the
	   star with just a little fill coming from the planet and
	   the rings.  This is most noticeable in the giant asteroid
	   in the bottom of the frame.

	-- I think the gas giant could be made much cooler by using
	   layered textures (one cloud color per layer) or by
	   actually making several layers of spheres with different
	   colored clouds on them so that they could cast shadows
	   on each other.

	-- Finally, (whew!) I think the asteroid shape looks a little
	   funny.  It would probably benefit a lot by adding craters
	   of some kind.  If fact, maybe the majority of the shape
	   should be like a potato that someone has attacked with
	  a melon baller!!

Wow! That's a lot of stuff.  But really, keep up the great work, and I'm
sure I'll see your name in lights someday.

	-Ben <><


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:50:26
Message: <3A785E6A.6FD16110@heday.freeservers.com>
http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/saboexp.jpg

--
H.E. Day
<><


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From: Chris S 
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:51:29
Message: <3a785eb1$1@news.povray.org>
Quite stunning...even more so then some of your past work.  As others have
mentioned, you've definitely outdone yourself...

Alright...enough mindless praise;)

The ships and the meteorites are inarguably the most finely crafted (I don't
know which I like better).  Extra points for the fiery explosion trails.  My
only significant criticism would be the crand of the rings which look overly
"rough".  The sharp distinction between some of the rings looks artificial
IMHO.

Oddly enough this hasn't depressed me but instead inspired.  I see this and
realize what can truly be accomplished with this humble little raytracer.

Overall, this has been a pleasant surprise for an otherwise mundane
Wednesday.  I was wondering where you were going with the hull you posted
last week.

Now I dare ask...the lensflare and nebulae, yours or an include?

Take care,
-Chris-

H.E. Day <The### [at] hedayfreeserverscom> wrote in message
news:3A77869F.E91639EE@heday.freeservers.com...
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
>
> Comments?
>
> H.E. Day
> <><
>


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From: Richard Dault
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:59:17
Message: <3a786085$1@news.povray.org>
"What does this button do?"


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From: Sander Stols
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 14:53:04
Message: <MPG.14e1f3f824b853fd9896dc@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <3A77869F.E91639EE@heday.freeservers.com>, 
The### [at] hedayfreeserverscom says...
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
> 
> Comments?
> 
> H.E. Day
> <><

This incredible scene makes me feel small in many ways! I also would 
like to see more details of the vessel, its structure etc.

What is the reason that the color/contrast boundaries look so sharp? It 
would be nice to have an idea what your rendering conditions were. Did 
you really not use AA?

It's great!!
-- 
Regards,  Sander


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From: Paul Jones
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 16:15:32
Message: <3A788089.59014D26@psu.edu>
I beg you, could you pleeeease write a tutorial on how you create these
wonderful ships????

-paul

"H.E. Day" wrote:
> 
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/saboexp.jpg
> 
> --
> H.E. Day
> <><

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Paul Daniel Jones
The Pennslyvania State University

pdj### [at] psuedu
http://research.chem.psu.edu/glassgrp/paul

       C            The way is near, but men
     // \           seek it afar. It is in the
    N    N          easy things, but men seek it
    |    ||         in the difficult things.
    C    C          -Menicius
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From: Abe
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 16:23:56
Message: <3A788257.B33C3FE6@taconic.net>
Neat pic. As usual I get the sense that it is either cover art or
illustration for a sci fi story. I like the "feel".

One comment, besides the razor sharp edges on the rings: when I first
viewed the pic at full resolution on my 800x600 monitor, I saw it in
vignettes, the first of course being the upper left corner. At the time
I missed the lens flare ring (seeing only the glare), but on
subsequently shrinking the image to fit my screen and seeing the flare
ring I lost some sense of the vast emptiness of space. In other words,
the ring acted as a space filling element (like the planet and the
rings). I appreciated the sense of vacuum which I got in my first
impression. Just a thought.

"H.E. Day" wrote:
> 
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
> 
> Comments?
> 
> H.E. Day
> <><


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:25:56
Message: <3A7890EA.39F7A0D@heday.freeservers.com>
> Alright...enough mindless praise;)

:)

> The ships and the meteorites are inarguably the most finely crafted (I don't
> know which I like better).  Extra points for the fiery explosion trails.  My
> only significant criticism would be the crand of the rings which look overly
> "rough".  The sharp distinction between some of the rings looks artificial
> IMHO.

The rings are quite a distance from the ships.  Upwards of 15,000 units.

> Oddly enough this hasn't depressed me but instead inspired.  I see this and
> realize what can truly be accomplished with this humble little raytracer.

Amen.

> Now I dare ask...the lensflare and nebulae, yours or an include?

Lensflare- custom NKFlare .flr file.
Nebula- mine.  Nor Galaxy.inc involved. :)

H.E. Day
<><


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:30:48
Message: <3A789200.5AED1FE4@faricy.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:

> - the explosion IMO is not very realistic for space.  It looks more like
> exploding gasoline.  Anyway it looks quite impressive.

I didn't think so either, but I agree that stylistically it's fine. Fits the
crisp look and coloration of the rest of the scene. Has kind of an acrylic
look.

--
David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:31:22
Message: <3A789230.DCF1EE17@heday.freeservers.com>
> This incredible scene makes me feel small in many ways! I also would
> like to see more details of the vessel, its structure etc.

I'll post more pictures soon. In the mean time, here's a link you can check
out:
 http://www.scifi-art.com/forums/Forum5/HTML/000380.html


> What is the reason that the color/contrast boundaries look so sharp? It
> would be nice to have an idea what your rendering conditions were. Did
> you really not use AA?

No, the aa was set to .3  I sharpened the image in Photoshop to get that
crisp feeling.  This is after I sized it down from 2400x1200

> It's great!!

Thanks!

H.E. Day
<><


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:36:21
Message: <3A789359.E5F71BED@heday.freeservers.com>
>         Looks pretty excellent!  I really love your sense of design.  I just
> checked out your website and was reminded of all the cool stuff I've
> seen coming from your direction.

Graci!

>         -- I loved the planetary rings

The only one. :(

>         -- I loved the emense sense of scale that slight
>            curvature of the planet and the rings bring out

To think that came naturally....

       -- *I* like the explosion, but it might work just as well if it were a
bit more transparent.

That'd be difficult. You see, the explosions are isosurfaces, so they are by
default, solid.

>         -- This space scene should probably be a little more stark.
>            I mean, the shadows should look almost pitch black, cause
>            almost all the light from the scene is coming from the
>            star with just a little fill coming from the planet and
>            the rings.  This is most noticeable in the giant asteroid
>            in the bottom of the frame.

Hmmm. on my monitor, they *are* stark. :) Maybe you might want to change your
gamma a tad...

>         -- I think the gas giant could be made much cooler by using
>            layered textures (one cloud color per layer) or by
>            actually making several layers of spheres with different
>            colored clouds on them so that they could cast shadows
>            on each other.

Render time wins out on this one, buddy. I barely have enough patience to finish
this render. :)


>         -- Finally, (whew!) I think the asteroid shape looks a little
>            funny.  It would probably benefit a lot by adding craters
>            of some kind.  If fact, maybe the majority of the shape
>            should be like a potato that someone has attacked with
>           a melon baller!!

I'll try it!!

Thanks again!

H.E. Day
<><


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:38:21
Message: <3A7893D3.D50AAF82@heday.freeservers.com>
> You say 100% POV, does this include the lensflare?  And if so: have you used
> my "50-300mmZooom.lfx"-file ?

Yup, it includes this lensflare.  It's a custom one, not yours, I'm afraid.

H.E. Day
<><


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:17:04
Message: <slrn97h4lp.ud3.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:29:35 -0800, H.E. Day wrote:

>Comments?

As usual a really stunning image.  I've missed so much while
I was away, 980+ messages to read in p.b.i.

-- 
Cheers
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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 1 Feb 2001 04:10:10
Message: <3A7927C1.F03A4E56@vip.cybercity.dk>
Hi,

This is truly great work.. I remember your "heart / cruicer" posting
some time ago, maybe this is a further development of it...?  Btw, I
like the explosion very much. To me, it looks very real, but... I'm no
expert.

Yes, of course I saw you had sharpened it in a photoshop program, that's
obvious.. I often do the same to avoid blurring, but this is too much,
IMHO.. The glowing edges are visible everywhere.

I see with pleasure that you have updated your homepage. Hope there will
be more animations too, and bits of useful code!


Hugo


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 1 Feb 2001 05:33:57
Message: <3a793b95$1@news.povray.org>
> > You say 100% POV, does this include the lensflare?  And if so: have you
used
> > my "50-300mmZooom.lfx"-file ?
>
> Yup, it includes this lensflare.  It's a custom one, not yours, I'm
afraid.
You made it yourself then?  Can we see the source?

cu!

--
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf


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From: Wolfgang Manousek
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 1 Feb 2001 10:57:32
Message: <3a79876c$1@news.povray.org>
amazing ...

how big is the source for a picture like this ..

and yes - upload the 2400*1200 to your website !!
"H.E. Day" <The### [at] hedayfreeserverscom> wrote in message
news:3A77869F.E91639EE@heday.freeservers.com...
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
>
> Comments?
>
> H.E. Day
> <><
>


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From: Chris S 
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 1 Feb 2001 15:49:27
Message: <3a79cbd7$1@news.povray.org>
Just curious...what do you do with all your talent and amazing images
besides posting them here and in scifi-art?  I'm surprised you're not
selling prints online...

-Chris-

H.E. Day <The### [at] hedayfreeserverscom> wrote in message
news:3A7### [at] hedayfreeserverscom...
> > Alright...enough mindless praise;)
>
> :)
>
> > The ships and the meteorites are inarguably the most finely crafted (I
don't
> > know which I like better).  Extra points for the fiery explosion trails.
My
> > only significant criticism would be the crand of the rings which look
overly
> > "rough".  The sharp distinction between some of the rings looks
artificial
> > IMHO.
>
> The rings are quite a distance from the ships.  Upwards of 15,000 units.
>
> > Oddly enough this hasn't depressed me but instead inspired.  I see this
and
> > realize what can truly be accomplished with this humble little
raytracer.
>
> Amen.
>
> > Now I dare ask...the lensflare and nebulae, yours or an include?
>
> Lensflare- custom NKFlare .flr file.
> Nebula- mine.  Nor Galaxy.inc involved. :)
>
> H.E. Day
> <><
>


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 1 Feb 2001 16:14:54
Message: <MPG.14e3e188d535672f98987e@news.povray.org>
> Here it is, the most recent masterpiece....or not.
> http://www.pietyhillcottages.com/Images/sabotage.jpg (633K)
> The original was rendered at 2400x1200 and took 7h32m to render on a
> P200
> 100% POVRay!!
> 
> Comments?

Only one.

Homeworld.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 2 Feb 2001 11:34:01
Message: <3A7AE01F.8A0B1765@my-dejanews.com>
"H.E. Day" wrote:

> Comments?

Epic.

Rings should be particles of dust, otherwise...


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 3 Feb 2001 15:58:50
Message: <3A7C70FC.7FCC999E@heday.freeservers.com>
> Homeworld.

*sigh*.  I tried to get away from that...

H.E. Day
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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: The Sabotage and destruction of the Lincoln
Date: 3 Feb 2001 16:09:43
Message: <MPG.14e68377f53acf0b98987f@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 12:58:36 -0800, H.E. Day wrote...
> > Homeworld.
> 
> *sigh*.  I tried to get away from that...

Sorry, it's the shape of the ships, they look *so* much like one of the 
Motherships in the game, with the upright, sort of semi-circular aspect, 
and the narrowing in the middle.  Even the Blue access port/weapon thing 
(whatever it is) looks like one of the ship docks from the HW mothership, 
albeit in a different position.

Of course, I don't consider it a bad thing for it to look so much like 
Homeworld, but obviously you do.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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