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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 00:14:22
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Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.

-Xplo


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 02:56:23
Message: <3A3336B6.3010800@home.com>
That looks strikingly like alovara, the texture just needs to be darker 
and a bit more specular.

Xplo Eristotle wrote:

> Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.
> 
> -Xplo
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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 06:32:01
Message: <3A336985.941FEE35@onwijs.com>
The texture looks very good!
Is this really called a yucca? I believe here we would call this aloe or
something like that.

Remco

Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.
> 
> -Xplo
> 
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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 06:45:50
Message: <3A336CED.1FA6210A@gmx.de>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.
> 
> -Xplo
> 

That looks nice, some dried curling leaves at the bottom and some
irregularities like damaged leaves would be good.  My parents have some
kind of yucca in the garden, the leaves there are a little more blue.  BTW
it also has flowers :-)

Christoph

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 06:58:37
Message: <slrn936k1r.d7v.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 22:19:07 -0700, Xplo Eristotle wrote:

>Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
>perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
>resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.

It does look like a yucca, some of the leaves seem to start below 
ground.  Is this an iso?

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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 07:40:20
Message: <3A337B05.DB35BCCA@unforgettable.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> That looks nice, some dried curling leaves at the bottom

Ugh. Curling? Those leaves are CSG... ^^;

> and some
> irregularities like damaged leaves would be good.

Not sure how I'd do those. Probably best not to try.

> BTW it also has flowers :-)

Funny you should mention that. ;)

I don't know what kind of flower I'll give this thing; that's a project
for another day.

-Xplo


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 07:41:27
Message: <3A337B49.356B8022@unforgettable.com>
Steve wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 22:19:07 -0700, Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> >Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> >perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> >resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.
> 
> It does look like a yucca, some of the leaves seem to start below
> ground.  Is this an iso?

The spikes are CSG (a cone minus a cone). They're placed with a loop.

-Xplo


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 07:54:02
Message: <3A337CE8.9EEF6556@gmx.de>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Ugh. Curling? Those leaves are CSG... ^^;
> 

I see, if it's a simple CSG like cones/cylinders try doing it as an
isosurface and distort it. 

> > BTW it also has flowers :-)
> 
> Funny you should mention that. ;)
> 
> I don't know what kind of flower I'll give this thing; that's a project
> for another day.
> 

try:

http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Flora_and_Fauna/Plantae/Magnoliophyta/Liliopsida/Agavaceae/Yucca/

Christoph

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 08:48:44
Message: <3A33898F.F64D8289@onwijs.com>
It appears this also called a yucca, so disregard my previous comment.

BTW I've seen these in bloom (?). The flowers can get a couple of meters high
and as far as I know they only get flowers once in every fourteen years or so
(and then die?).
So, here's some more trivia to correct me on ;)

Remco

Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> >
> > Ugh. Curling? Those leaves are CSG... ^^;
> >
> 
> I see, if it's a simple CSG like cones/cylinders try doing it as an
> isosurface and distort it.
> 
> > > BTW it also has flowers :-)
> >
> > Funny you should mention that. ;)
> >
> > I don't know what kind of flower I'll give this thing; that's a project
> > for another day.
> >
> 
> try:
> 
>
http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Flora_and_Fauna/Plantae/Magnoliophyta/Liliopsida/Agavaceae/Yucca/
> 
> Christoph
> 
> --
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> things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 09:12:42
Message: <3A338ED0.96DB77E1@videotron.ca>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Christoph Hormann wrote:
> >
> > and some
> > irregularities like damaged leaves would be good.
> 
> Not sure how I'd do those.

Just leave where your cat can reach it...

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 10:28:49
Message: <Xns9006A3547seed7@povray.org>
Remco de Korte wrote:

>BTW I've seen these in bloom (?). The flowers can get a couple of
>meters high and as far as I know they only get flowers once in every
>fourteen years or so (and then die?).
>So, here's some more trivia to correct me on ;)
>

That would be an Agave,
the plant that Tequila
is made of.

Ingo

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 14:17:15
Message: <chrishuff-E55BCE.14180710122000@news.povray.org>
In article <3A336985.941FEE35@onwijs.com>, Remco de Korte 
<rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote:

> I believe here we would call this aloe or something like that.

Aloe Vera. There are similarities, they are both succulents with pointed 
leaves, but aloe leaves are less pointy, have little soft spikes on 
their edges, and their leaves are always opposite each other in a single 
plane, not in a radial formation like this. This texture is just right 
for aloe, though.

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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 14:31:27
Message: <3A33DB61.EEC5E674@unforgettable.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> >
> > Ugh. Curling? Those leaves are CSG... ^^;
> 
> I see, if it's a simple CSG like cones/cylinders try doing it as an
> isosurface and distort it.

I thought about that. Haven't tried it yet, though.

> > I don't know what kind of flower I'll give this thing; that's a project
> > for another day.
> 
>
http://dmoz.org/Science/Biology/Flora_and_Fauna/Plantae/Magnoliophyta/Liliopsida/Agavaceae/Yucca/

Hmm, thanks. I'll have a look.

-Xplo


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 14:34:59
Message: <3A33DC34.62358CB1@unforgettable.com>
ingo wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> >BTW I've seen these in bloom (?). The flowers can get a couple of
> >meters high and as far as I know they only get flowers once in every
> >fourteen years or so (and then die?).
> >So, here's some more trivia to correct me on ;)
> 
> That would be an Agave,
> the plant that Tequila
> is made of.

I had something like that near where I lived when I was young, and in
fact I was even there to see it bloom. (I don't remember if it died
afterwards.. it doesn't seem like it did.) We called it a "century
plant". I have no idea if that was an agave or not, but it wasn't a
yucca.. the leaves were much different.

-Xplo


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 15:30:56
Message: <Xns9006D7070seed7@povray.org>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:

>We called it a "century plant".

That's an agave.

Ingo

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:32:54
Message: <3A33F651.7EFFCAB@onwijs.com>
Right! That's the one.
Typical...
All I can see here are onion and potato plants and other swamp flora...

Remco

It's like this: you're on a small island with two doors...
;)

ingo wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> >BTW I've seen these in bloom (?). The flowers can get a couple of
> >meters high and as far as I know they only get flowers once in every
> >fourteen years or so (and then die?).
> >So, here's some more trivia to correct me on ;)
> >
> 
> That would be an Agave,
> the plant that Tequila
> is made of.
> 
> Ingo
> 
> --
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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:36:21
Message: <3A33F71F.BFA8378D@onwijs.com>
Chris Huff wrote:
> 
> In article <3A336985.941FEE35@onwijs.com>, Remco de Korte
> <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote:
> 
> > I believe here we would call this aloe or something like that.
> 
> Aloe Vera. There are similarities, they are both succulents with pointed
> leaves, but aloe leaves are less pointy, have little soft spikes on
> their edges, and their leaves are always opposite each other in a single
> plane, not in a radial formation like this. This texture is just right
> for aloe, though.
> 
> --
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> Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
> TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/
> 
> <><

You're right of course. I mixed up a couple of things obviously.
As far a I know, most Yucca's you'll find here are growing indoors, the leaves
are thinner and the grow on stems (right word?). Or am I mixing things up yet
again?

Remco


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 19:05:22
Message: <3A341A42.934F318C@ij.net>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.

	Given all the succulents in the world, that has to be a dead ringer for
one of them. Oddly realistic and not at the same time. 

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 22:50:45
Message: <3A344E59.7D8DEF8F@faricy.net>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:

> Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.

I like cacti and succulents, have a little pot (more like dish or platter) of
six of 'em in my room :)

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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 23:12:16
Message: <3A34541F.4E687944@ij.net>
David Fontaine wrote:
> 
> Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> > Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> > perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> > resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.
> 
> I like cacti and succulents, have a little pot (more like dish or platter) of
> six of 'em in my room :)

	I used to have a little one in a pot velcroed to the top of my car's
dashboard. It lived for years on coffee dregs and an occassional bit of
coke. And the looks it would get were worth every penny of the $2 it
cost. If I could have managed a camera I would have a great collection
of pedestrian double-takes at crosswalks. 

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 10 Dec 2000 23:24:44
Message: <3A345651.27ACD5EA@faricy.net>
Matt Giwer wrote:

>         I used to have a little one in a pot velcroed to the top of my car's
> dashboard. It lived for years on coffee dregs and an occassional bit of
> coke. And the looks it would get were worth every penny of the $2 it
> cost. If I could have managed a camera I would have a great collection
> of pedestrian double-takes at crosswalks.

Cool. Yeah, those cacti are tough.

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 11 Dec 2000 04:12:13
Message: <slrn93966h.fns.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:47:59 +0100, Remco de Korte wrote:
>It appears this also called a yucca, so disregard my previous comment.
>
>BTW I've seen these in bloom (?).

I thought everything that grew in Holand had flowrs, so why were
you surprised?

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 11 Dec 2000 07:41:34
Message: <3A34CB51.864675B6@onwijs.com>
Thes eplants will rot here before then can get flowers. That is, outdoors.
Indoors you'd need a high ceiling. The question mark was because I wasn't sure I
used the right frase/word/term (here I go again).

Remco

Steve wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:47:59 +0100, Remco de Korte wrote:
> >It appears this also called a yucca, so disregard my previous comment.
> >
> >BTW I've seen these in bloom (?).
> 
> I thought everything that grew in Holand had flowrs, so why were
> you surprised?
> 
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> 
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From: Sander
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 11 Dec 2000 16:12:01
Message: <MPG.149f6048dbd6c2e19896bb@news.povray.org>
in povray.binaries.images, Xplo Eristotle says...
> Just something I've been playing around with. This isn't meant to
> perfectly emulate any specific kind of plant, though it does rather
> resemble yucca. I'll probably make this into a real scene eventually.
> 

I wonder why you post your JPG as a progressive type and not as a 
straight type? First image I posted was progressive and nearly everybody 
fell over me :-(  
BTW it is nice and life-like, I wouldn't want to cut myself with it :)
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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 19 Dec 2000 16:42:38
Message: <3A3FD7AF.B970D607@unforgettable.com>
Sander wrote:
> 
> I wonder why you post your JPG as a progressive type and not as a
> straight type? First image I posted was progressive and nearly everybody
> fell over me :-(

Progressive is smaller, and no one ever gave me any trouble over it.. if
it's a problem, someone let me know, and I'll turn it off.

-Xplo


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 20 Dec 2000 11:28:44
Message: <MPG.14aaf59fd3f6bfac9896c4@news.povray.org>
in povray.binaries.images, Xplo Eristotle says...
> Sander wrote:
> 
> Progressive is smaller, and no one ever gave me any trouble over it.. if
> it's a problem, someone let me know, and I'll turn it off.

The standard viewer of my newsreader doesn't accept progressive jpg's; I 
have to resort to another one. But if I'm the only one: don't bother... 
I'll do that.
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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 20 Dec 2000 11:32:02
Message: <3A40E065.36E37AF5@unforgettable.com>
Sander wrote:
> 
> in povray.binaries.images, Xplo Eristotle says...
> > Sander wrote:
> >
> > Progressive is smaller, and no one ever gave me any trouble over it.. if
> > it's a problem, someone let me know, and I'll turn it off.
> 
> The standard viewer of my newsreader doesn't accept progressive jpg's; I
> have to resort to another one. But if I'm the only one: don't bother...
> I'll do that.

Ah, no need. It's only a small reduction in filesize anyway; I'll turn
it off.

-Xplo


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: Spiky plant
Date: 20 Dec 2000 16:38:48
Message: <MPG.14ab03c09e765ab9896c9@news.povray.org>
in povray.binaries.images, Xplo Eristotle says...
> 
> Ah, no need. It's only a small reduction in filesize anyway; I'll turn
> it off.
> 
> -Xplo
> 

Thanks. This viewer of my reader is not a great thing, so...
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