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From: Rune
Subject: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 12:33:07
Message: <39e73943@news.povray.org>
The progress of my character "AL the Alien" is slow and steady.
He has now got some feet (yes, he didn't have feet before!).
I have also changed his clothes. What do you think of it?

Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very similar
to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change the look of
AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look too similar to the
other alien?

There's still a *lot* of work to do; I'm no where near finished - But I
think it's going in the right direction...

All feedback is very welcome!

Rune
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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 15:25:52
Message: <39e761c0@news.povray.org>
Can I put this on the page,

10best.raytrace.com/gregtest/tracinstyles.html

as a good example of "characters"?

Rune wrote:

> The progress of my character "AL the Alien" is slow and steady.
> He has now got some feet (yes, he didn't have feet before!).
> I have also changed his clothes. What do you think of it?
>
> Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very similar
> to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change the look of
> AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look too similar to the
> other alien?
>
> There's still a *lot* of work to do; I'm no where near finished - But I
> think it's going in the right direction...
>
> All feedback is very welcome!
>
> Rune
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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 15:37:31
Message: <39e7647b@news.povray.org>
He's great, I wish I had the patience to create characters like this but CSG
drives me nuts!

Mick

"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
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> The progress of my character "AL the Alien" is slow and steady.
> He has now got some feet (yes, he didn't have feet before!).
> I have also changed his clothes. What do you think of it?
>
> Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very
similar
> to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change the look of
> AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look too similar to
the
> other alien?
>
> There's still a *lot* of work to do; I'm no where near finished - But I
> think it's going in the right direction...
>
> All feedback is very welcome!
>
> Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 16:07:10
Message: <39e76b6e@news.povray.org>
"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> Can I put this on the page,
>
> 10best.raytrace.com/gregtest/tracinstyles.html
>
> as a good example of "characters"?

I don't like having WIPs exhibited, but if it's only temporary, and it won't
get on the CD or anything, then I don't see any problem with it. You have my
permission.

Just a thought - I would also find it a logical choice under the style "3D
Toon".

Greetings,

Rune
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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 19:34:27
Message: <39E79D26.AE2E328@erols.com>
Rune wrote:
> 
> Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very
> similar to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change
> the look of AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look
> too similar to the other alien?

I think that as long as he is shaped and colored the same basic way,
the resemblance will always be strong.  You could try giving him
dark green spots, or scales, or something.

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 20:33:59
Message: <39e7a9f7@news.povray.org>
"John VanSickle" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> >
> > Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very
> > similar to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change
> > the look of AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look
> > too similar to the other alien?
>
> I think that as long as he is shaped and colored the same basic way,
> the resemblance will always be strong.  You could try giving him
> dark green spots, or scales, or something.

Ouch, I hope there's another way...

Well, the colours of the clothes are different, and the shape is also a
little different, but maybe not enough.

To make it easier to compare I have attached an image with Blit Wizbok to
the left and AL the Alien to the right. (just hope copyright isn't a
problem!)

Thanks for your feedback.

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 20:34:01
Message: <39e7a9f9@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" wrote:
> He's great,

Thank you!

> I wish I had the patience to create characters like this
> but CSG drives me nuts!

Well, maybe I'll convert him into a mesh eventually. CSG isn't very flexible
for organic animation.

Greetings,

Rune
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From: ddombrow
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 21:40:32
Message: <39e7b990@news.povray.org>
I wouldn't worry about it, there are enough significant differences. I mean,
how dissimilar can two cartoony 3D green aliens look, anyway.

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 13 Oct 2000 22:01:43
Message: <chrishuff-B3E5B6.21042013102000@news.povray.org>
In article <39e7a9f7@news.povray.org>, "Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> 
wrote:

> Well, the colours of the clothes are different, and the shape is also a
> little different, but maybe not enough.
> 
> To make it easier to compare I have attached an image with Blit Wizbok to
> the left and AL the Alien to the right. (just hope copyright isn't a
> problem!)

I don't think you have much to worry about...they have almost the exact 
same "feel" to them, but their bodies and heads are obviously different.

However, if you ignore the fact that one has twice the eyes of the 
other, who has a funny growth on a stalk at the top of his head, they 
could be related...maybe just say he is Wizbok's cousin. :-)

BTW, "Blit Wizbok" sounds Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy-ish...

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From: SomeGuy
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 14 Oct 2000 00:51:45
Message: <39E6A676.EA74F3A3@earthlink.net>
Do you work for pixar...?

Rune wrote:

> The progress of my character "AL the Alien" is slow and steady.
> He has now got some feet (yes, he didn't have feet before!).
> I have also changed his clothes. What do you think of it?
>
> Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very similar
> to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change the look of
> AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look too similar to the
> other alien?
>
> There's still a *lot* of work to do; I'm no where near finished - But I
> think it's going in the right direction...
>
> All feedback is very welcome!
>
> Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 14 Oct 2000 07:34:25
Message: <39e844c1@news.povray.org>
"SomeGuy" wrote:
> Do you work for pixar...?

Thanks, but no, I don't! :-)

(It is Victor Navone who works for Pixar)

Greetings,

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 14 Oct 2000 07:34:28
Message: <39e844c4@news.povray.org>
"ddombrow" wrote:
> I wouldn't worry about it, there are enough significant differences.
> I mean, how dissimilar can two cartoony 3D green aliens look, anyway.

I agree with you and Chris Huff, I just had to have it confirmed.

I think I'll stick to this design then.

Greetings,

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From: SomeGuy
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 15 Oct 2000 02:34:12
Message: <39E80FFB.A6CB1308@earthlink.net>
Dang... =)
It would be nice to see one of the pov group working for a "Big Wig"
company doing what they  do best... Playing w/ 3d software...

Rune wrote:

> "SomeGuy" wrote:
> > Do you work for pixar...?
>
> Thanks, but no, I don't! :-)
>
> (It is Victor Navone who works for Pixar)
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune
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From: SomeGuy
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 15 Oct 2000 02:39:28
Message: <39E81135.2DC679C1@earthlink.net>
I think they are distant cousins... One a city, disco lovin', alien...
The other ( Al ) a sort of urban farmer in to visit his cousin in N.Y....

Rune wrote:

> "John VanSickle" wrote:
> > Rune wrote:
> > >
> > > Several people have pointed out to me that "AL the Alien" looks very
> > > similar to Victor Navone's alien "Blit Wizbok". I have tried to change
> > > the look of AL to avoid this. Have I succeeded, or does AL still look
> > > too similar to the other alien?
> >
> > I think that as long as he is shaped and colored the same basic way,
> > the resemblance will always be strong.  You could try giving him
> > dark green spots, or scales, or something.
>
> Ouch, I hope there's another way...
>
> Well, the colours of the clothes are different, and the shape is also a
> little different, but maybe not enough.
>
> To make it easier to compare I have attached an image with Blit Wizbok to
> the left and AL the Alien to the right. (just hope copyright isn't a
> problem!)
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 15 Oct 2000 11:40:47
Message: <39e9cfff@news.povray.org>
"SomeGuy" wrote:
> I think they are distant cousins... One a city, disco lovin', alien...
> The other ( Al ) a sort of urban farmer in to visit his cousin in N.Y....

No no, you've got it all wrong.

Al's clothes are not those of a farmer, they're those of an intergalactic
explorer. :-)

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From: SomeGuy
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 16 Oct 2000 00:55:23
Message: <39E94A51.3100C1EF@earthlink.net>
How about an intergalactic, space, agricultural, worker...??
Any how he looks like he wears the cloths of a working man...
Maybe the handy man on an important reconnaissance mission...
Something to that affect...


Rune wrote:

> "SomeGuy" wrote:
> > I think they are distant cousins... One a city, disco lovin', alien...
> > The other ( Al ) a sort of urban farmer in to visit his cousin in N.Y....
>
> No no, you've got it all wrong.
>
> Al's clothes are not those of a farmer, they're those of an intergalactic
> explorer. :-)
>
> Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 16 Oct 2000 11:24:19
Message: <39eb1da3@news.povray.org>
"SomeGuy" wrote:
> How about an intergalactic, space, agricultural, worker...??

Nah - he really is not a worker...

> Any how he looks like he wears the cloths of a working man...

It's the boots isn't it?

I've gotta work on that...

> Maybe the handy man on an important reconnaissance mission...
> Something to that affect...

hehe, better I guess, but still not right.

AL travels on his own in his small spacecraft, exploring foreign worlds and
having incredible adventures. Or something like that... :-)

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 16 Oct 2000 15:14:50
Message: <slrn8umien.per.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:10:29 -0700, SomeGuy wrote:
>How about an intergalactic, space, agricultural, worker...??
>Any how he looks like he wears the cloths of a working man...
>Maybe the handy man on an important reconnaissance mission...
>Something to that affect...

Maybe he collects "Space Mushrooms". 

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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 16 Oct 2000 19:17:46
Message: <39EB8CB0.33A2E093@spiritone.com>
"Space Mushrooms?" Wasn't that a plot device in the Heavy Metal movie?

Steve wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:10:29 -0700, SomeGuy wrote:
> >How about an intergalactic, space, agricultural, worker...??
> >Any how he looks like he wears the cloths of a working man...
> >Maybe the handy man on an important reconnaissance mission...
> >Something to that affect...
>
> Maybe he collects "Space Mushrooms".
>
> --
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From: Steve
Subject: Re: AL the Alien WIP 3
Date: 17 Oct 2000 20:31:37
Message: <slrn8upral.snt.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:18:08 -0700, Josh English wrote:
>"Space Mushrooms?" Wasn't that a plot device in the Heavy Metal movie?

I don't know.  My thought was that mushrooms could be fairly easy to model
compared to machinery, and also being space mushrooms they could have really
interesting textures. 

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