Hi,

here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that the
flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift. But
since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way it
is.

What do you say?

Marc-Hendrik

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"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
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> What do you say?

YES!!!!!!  now it looks BIG... imposing, and not friendly.... just the way
you wanted it...
The sky is looking very nice also.

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Now that does look good, but and you know there's always a but,
I can see the sky through the middle windows at the front just
above the door, (well I think it's the sky), that doesn't look
right some how.  And also the image seems to have gained a 
flattness from something that's been changed, maybe you've
added ambient lighting.  

My first thought was Coldits.  Keep up the good work, this is
really coming along. 

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Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain...
> Now that does look good, but and you know there's always a but,
Hey!  That's my line!!!
:-)

ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf

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Nice! Threatening!
But... (Always a but...)
It looks so flat!  it really needs some contrast...  I really think some
torches would look nice.  And drop the ambient.  And, maybe, try radiosity.
Will look even better!

ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf

Marc-Hendrik Bremer <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> schreef in
berichtnieuws 39e4272e@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
> changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that
the
> flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift. But
> since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way it
> is.
>
> What do you say?
>
> Marc-Hendrik
>
>

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Marc-Hendrik Bremer <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
news:39e4272e@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
> changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that
the
> flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift. But
> since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way it
> is.
>
> What do you say?


Nice.

How about some archers in the towers (Or cannons) and some torches on the
wall.

Gail
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Run Away! Run Away! Run Away!

haha, you silly english type persons.

Much improved, nice work. Walls need a little more contrast though.
--
Dan D.

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Yes, it's the sky or more precise the "sunlit" edge of one of the clouds.
The back of the upper part is made only out of some woodbeams, as I read
that was the way they did it in medieval times for the supply of arrows and
things like that. I'll think about it.

The flatness is due to the radiosity I used (ambient_light is 0). The clouds
block almost every direct light from the "sun", but with all that white snow
... In fact, the light_source is only responsible for the white edges of the
clouds. I'll probably have to change them for more direct lighting.

BTW: There is indeed always a "but" perhaps we could add an abbreviation
lithe TIAAB? :-) This one is far from finished.

Marc-Hendrik

Steve schrieb in Nachricht ...
>Now that does look good, but and you know there's always a but,
>I can see the sky through the middle windows at the front just
>above the door, (well I think it's the sky), that doesn't look
>right some how.  And also the image seems to have gained a
>flattness from something that's been changed, maybe you've
>added ambient lighting.
>
>My first thought was Coldits.  Keep up the good work, this is
>really coming along.
>
>--
>Cheers
>Steve              email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet
>
>%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps.
>
>web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
>
>or  http://start.at/zero-pps
>
> 10:02am  up 11:29,  2 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.01, 1.00

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Thanks!

The clouds are layered planes from Samuel Benge, only a little bit modified.

Marc-Hendrik

Ian Witham schrieb in Nachricht <39e43f61@news.povray.org>...
>
>"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
>news:39e4272e@news.povray.org...
>
>> What do you say?
>
>YES!!!!!!  now it looks BIG... imposing, and not friendly.... just the way
>you wanted it...
>The sky is looking very nice also.
>
>

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Thanks!

Hi hi, no ambient used - but radiosity. The fault is probably that the
direct lighting is blocked by the clouds and the snow add to much to the
overall radiosity-lighting. I'll try to change that. Perhaps torches or
something like that would be good to bring back some of the shadows and add
some colors.

Marc-Hendrik


Zeger Knaepen schrieb in Nachricht <39e45a69$1@news.povray.org>...
>Nice! Threatening!
>But... (Always a but...)
>It looks so flat!  it really needs some contrast...  I really think some
>torches would look nice.  And drop the ambient.  And, maybe, try radiosity.
>Will look even better!
>
>ZK
>http://www.povplace.be.tf

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Thanks!

Torches will probably come in the near future. Not to sure about archers ...
I would like to add them, but I'm struggling with the winter-clothes, they
would need in this snow. Since I'm working most of the time with the Blobman
that's not that an easy task.

Marc-Hendrik

Gail Shaw schrieb in Nachricht <39e45ffa@news.povray.org>...
>
>Nice.
>
>How about some archers in the towers (Or cannons) and some torches on the
>wall.
>

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ddombrow schrieb in Nachricht <39e4749e$1@news.povray.org>...
>Run Away! Run Away! Run Away!
>
>haha, you silly english type persons.
>


Hm, I don't get this one. I don't think I'm an english type person ....well,
I try to type in English, but ... ? :-)

>Much improved, nice work. Walls need a little more contrast though.


Thanks and yes, you are right, definite need of some shadows!

Marc-Hendrik

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I like it.  Perhaps the door open just a bit to give a glimpse inside?  Put
a warm glowing torch or two in there and let the light cascade out into the
snow in front of the door.

Perhaps a broken cart off to the side to give some scale and interest
outside the walls.

Some broken spears off to one side with some tattered cloth as abandoned
junk, protruding from the snow.

In a high wind, your snow on the roof of the hoarding would not be all nice
and neat... it would accumulate behind the protected parts near the towers
and be swept clear of the windward/wind-exposed sides.  That would give an
impression of wind without the swirling white you can't get with media.

For swirling snow, generate an image of the snow on a black background...
use a paint program and spray white on black... save it as a GIF.... then
apply the image to a box and make black transparent leaving your swirling
snow part.  You can come up with several patterns of swirl to add interest.
See my tutorial at http://www.angelfire.com/md2/castlewrks for the image map
stuff.

Keep up the good work... I LOVE Castles.

Robert J Becraft
aka cas### [at] aolcom

Marc-Hendrik Bremer <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
news:39e4272e@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
> changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that
the
> flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift. But
> since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way it
> is.
>
> What do you say?
>
> Marc-Hendrik
>
>

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:38:57 +0200, "Marc-Hendrik Bremer"
<Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:

>here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
>changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that the
>flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift. But
>since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way it
>is.
>
>What do you say?

Wow, how very Warcraft-ish! /me likes!


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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I would impale some deteriorating corpses (missing lower half, etc) on each
side of the path, not evenly placed. Of course blood and gore in the snow
under them adds a good effect.

As for the sky, I say darker with less intricate clouds. Brooding dark
stratus clouds work. They seem a little flat right now.

I also would place one small dead tree somewhere.

I love the cold and dark winter. I need to go to Alaska, or perhaps
somewhere in Norway.

ian

Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote in message <39e4272e@news.povray.org>...
>What do you say?

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Wafer thin mint?

ddombrow wrote in message <39e4749e$1@news.povray.org>...
>Run Away! Run Away! Run Away!
>
>haha, you silly english type persons.

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"ian" <ian### [at] aolcom> wrote in message news:39e59d31@news.povray.org...
> I would impale some deteriorating corpses (missing lower half, etc) on
each
> side of the path, not evenly placed. Of course blood and gore in the snow
> under them adds a good effect.
>
> As for the sky, I say darker with less intricate clouds. Brooding dark
> stratus clouds work. They seem a little flat right now.
>
> I also would place one small dead tree somewhere.
>
> I love the cold and dark winter. I need to go to Alaska, or perhaps
> somewhere in Norway.
                         ^^^^^^
Noooo!!!!!!! See povray.off-topic
just kidding really.. we're all friends here, right Simen?

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Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> >haha, you silly english type persons.
> Hm, I don't get this one. I don't think I'm an english type person ....well,
> Thanks and yes, you are right, definite need of some shadows!

See "Monty Python and The Holy Grail"

Ken Matassa

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Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
> changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that the
> flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift. But
> since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way it
> is.
> 
> What do you say?
> 
> Marc-Hendrik
> 
Some fortresses have ditch around the outer walls, perhaps you can add
one? 
And in front side there could be small tower to protect the gate and
raise the bridge over the ditch?

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Marc-Henrixk Bremer wrote:

>Hi hi, no ambient used - but radiosity. The fault is probably that the
>direct lighting is blocked by the clouds and the snow add to much to the

        Can you add the "no_shadow" statement to the cloud plane object?

Pete

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I could but, who really wants clouds which casts no shadows at all? :-)
I'll fiddle around a bit with the location of the clouds and perhaps remove
them behind the camera (where the light is), to get some not-shadowed and
some shadowed places on the building. I think that will make the pic both
more realistic and interesting.

Marc-Hendrik

Pete schrieb in Nachricht <254### [at] nymaliasnet>...
>Marc-Henrixk Bremer wrote:
>
>>Hi hi, no ambient used - but radiosity. The fault is probably that the
>>direct lighting is blocked by the clouds and the snow add to much to the
>
>        Can you add the "no_shadow" statement to the cloud plane object?
>
>Pete
>

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Yeah, I thought about a ditch and a draw-bridge, too. Perhaps I'll add one
on another side of Torganswall, something like an natural gorge, which was
integrated in the defence. For this side I'll be probably to lazy to add one
:-)

Marc-Hendrik

Vahur Krouverk schrieb in Nachricht <39E86A8B.1594882A@aetec.ee>...
>Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> here is the current state of my work on the fortress. As you can see, I
>> changed quite a lot. What I'm not satisfied with in this image is, that
the
>> flags indicate lots of wind, while there is no snow-flurry and -drift.
But
>> since my media refuses to work as I would like it to, I left it the way
it
>> is.
>>
>> What do you say?
>>
>> Marc-Hendrik
>>
>Some fortresses have ditch around the outer walls, perhaps you can add
>one?
>And in front side there could be small tower to protect the gate and
>raise the bridge over the ditch?

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