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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 02:39:18
Message: <39e16816@news.povray.org>
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It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
Mick
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From: MikeH
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 03:33:22
Message: <39E17476.B5832AB9@aol.com>
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Excellent. The only thing that needs work are the rocks. The color is
right but they appear too smooth and shiny. Some patches of lichens or
moss are what I'm thinking.
-Mike
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
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> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
The clouds are dramatic, but that streaky look is a bit odd (that's one
thing I never liked about a lot of raytraced cloud scenes, they're
always streaky). The haze in the distance should probably be darker, I think.
Otherwise, it's a really impressive pic. Makes me feel kinda bad. ;)
-Xplo
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:41:40 +0100, Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
>It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
It certainly has come some way, it's lost all that flattness
that the previous version had, the sky seems to have some
considerable depth too.
This really beats the crap out of your last IRTC entry, it's
a shame that this wasn't ready in time.
I've been sitting here looking at this for so long that now
I'm late. This is such a stunning image Mick, thanks for
sharing it with us.
--
Cheers
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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 05:51:46
Message: <39E19432.71B220D@online.no>
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
Just beautiful !
I wish that I could make such images.
Tor Olav
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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 07:51:00
Message: <39e1b124@news.povray.org>
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what else are you planning to do! - looks about done to me - quite a stunner
(btw shouldn't it be "ancient mariner is thankfull he has a hat, seagul poop
can be real sticky......")
Rick
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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 11:17:39
Message: <39e1e193@news.povray.org>
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good point!
"MikeH" <Ama### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:39E17476.B5832AB9@aol.com...
> Excellent. The only thing that needs work are the rocks. The color is
> right but they appear too smooth and shiny. Some patches of lichens or
> moss are what I'm thinking.
>
> -Mike
>
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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 11:18:22
Message: <39e1e1be@news.povray.org>
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just don't let a cormorant throw up over you! ugh!
Mick
"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
news:39e1b124@news.povray.org...
> what else are you planning to do! - looks about done to me - quite a
stunner
>
> (btw shouldn't it be "ancient mariner is thankfull he has a hat, seagul
poop
> can be real sticky......")
>
> Rick
>
>
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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 11:20:36
Message: <39e1e244@news.povray.org>
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I agree with you about the haze but the figure dissapears and the picture
becomes very dark, so.... I left it as is, besides it adds a touch of
energy/life/something???
Mick
"Xplo Eristotle" <inq### [at] unforgettablecom> wrote in message
news:39E180AB.D35A63FA@unforgettable.com...
> Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> >
> > It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
>
> The clouds are dramatic, but that streaky look is a bit odd (that's one
> thing I never liked about a lot of raytraced cloud scenes, they're
> always streaky). The haze in the distance should probably be darker, I
think.
>
> Otherwise, it's a really impressive pic. Makes me feel kinda bad. ;)
>
> -Xplo
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From: BigCeef
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 11:54:25
Message: <39e1ea31@news.povray.org>
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I don't know what u mean by 'streaky'...they look stunning to me. Not sure
about the perspective 'zoom' effect tho...
Still....very impressive indeed.
Andy Cocker
"Xplo Eristotle" <inq### [at] unforgettablecom> wrote in message
news:39E180AB.D35A63FA@unforgettable.com...
> Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> >
> > It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
>
> The clouds are dramatic, but that streaky look is a bit odd (that's one
> thing I never liked about a lot of raytraced cloud scenes, they're
> always streaky). The haze in the distance should probably be darker, I
think.
>
> Otherwise, it's a really impressive pic. Makes me feel kinda bad. ;)
>
> -Xplo
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
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> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
Your work has reached a new plateau. Ken gives it 2 thumbs up !
--
Ken Tyler
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In my opinion it would be nice to see the mariners coat blowing open in
the wind...
Some detail in the cloth (coat & maybe the slacks) to give the
appearance of wrinkles would be nice...
Overall the scene is beautiful...
The model just looks plane in comparison...
=)...
Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
>
> Mick
>
> [Image]
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There is only one thing to say about this picture:
<STRONG><EM>WOW!!!!!!!</EM></STRONG>
Sven-Erik Andersen
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http://seasoft.tecbox.com/
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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 15:01:55
Message: <39e21623$1@news.povray.org>
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Maybe a cloak "blowin in the wind"..... yep I reckon I'll try it.
Thanks for the sugestion.
Mick
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:39e16816@news.povray.org...
> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
>
> Mick
>
>
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From: Bob H
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 19:39:16
Message: <39e25724@news.povray.org>
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Nice piece of art. Not sure about that title though. I had to wonder a
little about the red hair on the "ancient mariner". Maybe a tanner color
for the face and grey for the hair would be better?
Anyway, you're banned from posting here for a few weeks in order to keep
other peoples morale from dropping.
Bob
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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 9 Oct 2000 23:35:15
Message: <39E28AC4.3322@pacbell.net>
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Fantastic! Has a moody feel to it. Makes you wonder what thoughts are
going through his head. Past adventures? A lost love one?
I can't wait to see how it evolvs. keep up the good work.
Ken Matassa
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Mick:
I just thought of something for the grass. The texture, as it stands now,
seems too uniform. Instead, try this: make each stem fade from green to
yellow or lightish green along it's length. Also, randomize the diffuse
amounts for the entire plant. And radomizing how high the plants are may
be a good idea, too.
Another idea: Make some more areas of shadows on the mariner, or lower the
ambient.
Good work so far, keep it up!
H.E. Day
<><
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 10 Oct 2000 01:32:01
Message: <39E2A8A7.7FA81EF@pacbell.net>
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"H. E. Day" wrote:
> Another idea: Make some more areas of shadows on the mariner, or lower the
> ambient.
On my monitor the Mariner is almost in silloette. I like it the
way it is but perhaps if I turned up the brightness to max it
would be a different story.
--
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 10 Oct 2000 02:36:45
Message: <39e2b8fd@news.povray.org>
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hi Ken
Thanks fot the thumbs up!
He is meant to be almost a silhouette but I'm going to modify him so he is
wearing a victorian style cloak which is blowing slightly in the wind.
Mick
> On my monitor the Mariner is almost in silloette. I like it the
> way it is but perhaps if I turned up the brightness to max it
> would be a different story.
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 10 Oct 2000 06:19:46
Message: <39e2ed42$1@news.povray.org>
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:39e16816@news.povray.org...
> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
>
I like this - one of those pictures where the title is part of the picture,
giving it it's context. Howabout an old and faded wedding-invite, half
buried by sand?
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It's really becoming more and more impressive, but i wonder about the strong
shadows of the grass on the ground while the sun seems behind the clouds.
Christoph
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Homepage: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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in povray.binaries.images, Mick Hazelgrove says...
> It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
>
> Mick
I don't claim to look at everything that's posted here very carefully,
but this strikes me as extraordinary good: it has lots of atmosphere and
shows a beautiful light. Catching...
--
Regards, Sander
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 11 Oct 2000 00:14:55
Message: <39E3E6D6.BEBF1708@faricy.net>
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I think it looks very good for the most part, but basically to reiterate
what others said, the grass probably wouldn't have such defined shadows
when the sun is just emerging from clouds (or retracting-am i an
optimist?), and the mariner looks 2D to me; solid colors, not much
detail at that distance. Maybe some very soft highlight right on the
edge of his coat?
--
David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery: http://davidf.faricy.net/
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From: Ian Witham
Subject: Re: the ancient mariner pleads with the albatross for forgivness
Date: 11 Oct 2000 06:16:42
Message: <39e43e0a@news.povray.org>
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
news:39e2ed42$1@news.povray.org...
> "Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
> news:39e16816@news.povray.org...
> > It's come some way and still has a little way to go...
> >
>
> I like this - one of those pictures where the title is part of the
picture,
> giving it it's context. Howabout an old and faded wedding-invite, half
> buried by sand?
>
I don't think Ancient Mariner was invited to that wedding, he was only there
to tell Wedding Guest his story. Anyway the albatross should look much more
dead... half buried by sand?
Very good picture. The figure seems to have that same problem that the
grass had before H.E. suggested double illumination. I know nothing about
double illumination but maybe it's worth trying?
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