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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Pan_All
Date: 9 Aug 2000 03:04:35
Message: <39910283@news.povray.org>
Here's an image I've been working on.

It's a great building and perfect for pov, I think.

sphere, cyl.

There is an almost awesome program: DesignWorkshop Lite
that is excellent for architectural work.

As I am pretty confident that no women are reading this
I will say this;
getting the proportions has been a bitch.

If there is/are a women reading this...I doubt it...

Peter


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 9 Aug 2000 03:10:57
Message: <399104F9.5BCB51C2@home.com>
Yes proportions are very hard! Not having a picture of the building you
mean in front of me I don't know how yours matches up. It looks really
good to me though. One of the things I have found when working with
proportions is that it almost never looks right at the beginning.
However if you have the general shape write, when you add a lot of
detail the proportion problem becomes less noticeable. This is the
reason that simple models are sometimes the hardest, the lack of detail
means you see any proportion problems right away. Anyone else agree?

Peter Warren wrote:

> Here's an image I've been working on.
>
> It's a great building and perfect for pov, I think.
>
> sphere, cyl.
>
> There is an almost awesome program: DesignWorkshop Lite
> that is excellent for architectural work.
>
> As I am pretty confident that no women are reading this
> I will say this;
> getting the proportions has been a bitch.
>
> If there is/are a women reading this...I doubt it...
>
> Peter
>
>  [Image]

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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 9 Aug 2000 05:24:16
Message: <39912340@news.povray.org>
proportions have been the thorn in my side these last few days,

in moray, you can load a bg image as a guide. in spatch you cannot, and its
driving me up the wall !

Rick


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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 9 Aug 2000 15:56:18
Message: <3991b762$1@news.povray.org>
Rick [Kitty5] wrote in message <39912340@news.povray.org>...
>in moray, you can load a bg image as a guide

That's a good idea. But I should register first.


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From: Gypsy
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 10 Aug 2000 00:37:28
Message: <399231D7.CC2270@mindspring.com>
> As I am pretty confident that no women are reading this
> I will say this;
> getting the proportions has been a bitch.
> 
> If there is/are a women reading this...I doubt it...
> 

Hate to break it to you but there is at least one woman reading this
group, me. I'm not offended though, they are just words. :)
-- 
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 10 Aug 2000 04:33:42
Message: <399268e6@news.povray.org>
>If there is/are a women reading this...I doubt it...
>


There is. Don't worry, I've heard a lot worse at work.

Gail
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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 10 Aug 2000 04:50:35
Message: <slrn8p3prp.ura.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
Looking good Peter.  Camera angel doesn't seem to be doing
you any favours here, widen it or narrow it or something, I
can never remember which.

I look forward t seeing this one when it's done. 

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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 10 Aug 2000 05:54:41
Message: <39927be1@news.povray.org>
Steve wrote in message ...
>
>Looking good Peter.  Camera angel doesn't seem to be doing..


Ooh, please tell how you contact the camera angel? <grin>

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 10 Aug 2000 11:28:45
Message: <slrn8p5h7j.vqv.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:53:19 +0200, Gail Shaw wrote:
>
>Steve wrote in message ...
>>
>>Looking good Peter.  Camera angel doesn't seem to be doing..
>
>
>Ooh, please tell how you contact the camera angel? <grin>

Spell checker says it's correct, who am I to argue.

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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 10 Aug 2000 18:57:39
Message: <39933363$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks, Steve.

I haven't been doing much in pov except playing with mega0.5.
I posted this to get my a** in gear.

It's a pretty big project and the camera angle I'm aiming for is
from the inside with the light coming thru the 'hole at the top'
(sorry for my arch.tech. talk).

I believe the CA can be contacted at:
cam### [at] inmydreamsorg
I actually got an answer...once.

Peter Warren
Proud user of Pov since 1996


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 11 Aug 2000 20:15:17
Message: <slrn8p94fj.3b4.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:55:29 -0700, Peter Warren wrote:
>It's a pretty big project and the camera angle I'm aiming for is
>from the inside with the light coming thru the 'hole at the top'
>(sorry for my arch.tech. talk).

Your message prompted me to go and have a good look around the net
for a photo of the inside of the Metropolitan Cathedral of Liverpool
which has a stained glass circular tower, the glass goes through all
colours of the rainbow gradually so as the sun moves around the 
colour of the light inside changes, it's a beautiful sight to behold.  

Alass I couldn't find any images, but I'll keep my eyes opn and if
I find one (taken on the inside) I'll post it here.

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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 12 Aug 2000 02:06:06
Message: <3994e94e@news.povray.org>
Steve wrote in message ...
>Your message prompted me to go and have a good look around the net
>for a photo of the inside of the Metropolitan Cathedral of Liverpool
>which has a stained glass circular tower, the glass goes through all
>colours of the rainbow gradually so as the sun moves around the
>colour of the light inside changes, it's a beautiful sight to behold.

Wow, sounds very beautiful and tre cool.  Certainly not the
'typical' American image of what is 'Liverpudlian'.

>Alass I couldn't find any images, but I'll keep my eyes opn and if
>I find one (taken on the inside) I'll post it here.


It might be necessary to get in contact with the Liverpool 'chamber
of commerce', but maybe they aren't very 'wired' as yet.

Here's a 1750 painting by some Italian dude of what I'm going for.

I've got the coffers (arch.tech.talk) down, but have found getting
the angle extremely difficult. Maybe it's the magic/lie of painting.

Peter
Proud user of PovRay since 1996


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 12 Aug 2000 07:59:15
Message: <slrn8padm9.44s.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:04:39 -0700, Peter Warren wrote:
>
>Here's a 1750 painting by some Italian dude of what I'm going for.
>
>I've got the coffers (arch.tech.talk) down, but have found getting
>the angle extremely difficult. Maybe it's the magic/lie of painting.
>

It's going to be very difficult getting your lighting right here, you'll
probably have to use either a lot of ambient (don't do it), or a lot of
area lights, though point lights and fade_povew (or whatever it is), 
could possibly be the solution.  

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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 12 Aug 2000 21:10:25
Message: <3995F71F.FA1A4170@pobox.com>
Peter Warren wrote:
> Here's a 1750 painting by some Italian dude of what I'm going for.
> I've got the coffers (arch.tech.talk) down, ...

Someday, if I ever learn the necessary math, I'd like to design a
coffer-dome based on a tessellation of the hyperbolic plane.

At
http://www.superliminal.com/geometry/hypertes/HyperbolicTesselations.html,
there's a collection of such tesselations, shown in the Poincaré model. 
Some of these consist of straight lines running throughout.  Project one
of these stereographically to the hemisphere, and you get a set of
arches that meet the plane at a right angle.

Unfortunately, my favorite pattern -- that shown by the blue lines in
http://www.superliminal.com/geometry/hypertes/4_5_trunc0_512x512.gif --
leaves a much bigger hole than the Pantheon analogy allows.

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From: Jérôme Berger
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 14 Aug 2000 04:47:34
Message: <3997B226.15BC9A92@tapasmail.net>
Steve wrote:
> 
> It's going to be very difficult getting your lighting right here, you'll
> probably have to use either a lot of ambient (don't do it), or a lot of
> area lights, though point lights and fade_povew (or whatever it is),
> could possibly be the solution.
> 
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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 14 Aug 2000 04:49:33
Message: <3997b29d@news.povray.org>
Anton Sherwood wrote in message <3995F71F.FA1A4170@pobox.com>...

>http://www.superliminal.com/geometry/hypertes/HyperbolicTesselations.html,
>http://www.superliminal.com/geometry/hypertes/4_5_trunc0_512x512.gif --

Very cool stuff.

Similar to Circle Packing done in PostScript.
(Unfortunately the Professor who did this work is no longer on
 line, last I checked.)

Peter Warren
Away in search of the perfect toothpick.


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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: Pan_All
Date: 14 Jan 2002 02:02:55
Message: <3C4284B7.6118182C@pobox.com>
Peter Warren wrote (2000 Aug 14):
> Similar to Circle Packing done in PostScript.
> (Unfortunately the Professor who did this work is no longer on
>  line, last I checked.)
>  [Image]

Found it!
http://www.pmms.cam.ac.uk/~gjm11/cpacking/info.html
http://www.pmms.cam.ac.uk/~gjm11/cpacking/riemann2.ps.gz


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