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From: Doug Eichenberg
Subject: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 18:30:59
Message: <39874fa3@news.povray.org>
No, it's not a submarine!
Something I'm doing for work... thought I'd share it.  The original is 
much larger in resolution, so some of the smaller details (like the 
threading) don't show here.  It's a cut-away model of an injection 
molding assembly.  It was created in AutoCAD from blueprints, then 
exported as a series of .3DS files.  I imported the .3DS files into 
PolyTrans and converted them into a POV smooth_triangle mesh.  The final 
POV file was a whopping 57.6 meg.  
How it works: The plastic (in pellet form) is fed into the large hole at 
the upper left and the cylinder is heated by the heater bands that are 
wrapped around it.  The temperature ranges from 300-900 degrees 
fahrenheit, depending on the resin used.  The screw spins inside the 
cylinder and forces the melted plastic out the nozzle orifice and into a 
mold.  That's the basic synopsis, anyway.  The vertical cylinders are 
thermocouples.



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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 19:08:22
Message: <398758AE.A0CF08CD@istar.ca>
Great submarine!

:)


Simon


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From: Mike
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 19:54:01
Message: <39877047.D25F08F5@aol.com>
I thought it was going to be the titanic when it was about halfway
through loading.  Nice looking model, even if I don't know what it is.
:)

-Mike


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 21:13:58
Message: <398776C5.BA7E3555@home.com>
Nice! I thought it was a tunnel boring machine.

Doug Eichenberg wrote:

>  No, it's not a submarine!Something I'm doing for work... thought I'd
> share it.  The original is much larger in resolution, so some of the
> smaller details (like the threading) don't show here.  It's a cut-away
> model of an injection molding assembly.  It was created in AutoCAD
> from blueprints, then exported as a series of .3DS files.  I imported
> the .3DS files into PolyTrans and converted them into a POV
> smooth_triangle mesh.  The final POV file was a whopping 57.6 meg.How
> it works: The plastic (in pellet form) is fed into the large hole at
> the upper left and the cylinder is heated by the heater bands that are
> wrapped around it.  The temperature ranges from 300-900 degrees
> fahrenheit, depending on the resin used.  The screw spins inside the
> cylinder and forces the melted plastic out the nozzle orifice and into
> a mold.  That's the basic synopsis, anyway.  The vertical cylinders
> are thermocouples.
> --
> Doug Eichenberg
> http://www.nls.net/douge
> dou### [at] nlsnet

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 22:12:37
Message: <chrishuff-3D5B28.21132901082000@news.povray.org>
In article <39874fa3@news.povray.org>, "Doug Eichenberg" 
<dou### [at] nlsnet> wrote:

> The final POV file was a whopping 57.6 meg.  

Ouch...talk about inefficient. I don't see anything here that couldn't 
be done easily with CSG and have a much smaller file size...the threads 
on the screws would be the hardest part. They would be possible with 
CSG, but probably the best way to do it would be an isosurface. But I 
guess you used meshes because it originated as an AutoCad file...

One suggestion: make some more surroundings. Maybe place it on a wood 
surface, so the metal has more to reflect.

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From: Arthur Flint
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 22:53:31
Message: <39878CB9.E0FB6FA7@gci.net>
I hate to say it, but I knew it for what it was when I saw it.
There was a time when I was interested in plastics and how they 
were worked. In the course of my reading I have seen similar 
injectors. This one looks very much like the pictures I saw.
You have done a good job at the modeling.
Mr. Art

> Doug Eichenberg wrote:
> 
> 
> No, it's not a submarine!
> Something I'm doing for work... thought I'd share it.  The original is
> much larger in resolution, so some of the smaller details (like the
> threading) don't show here.  It's a cut-away model of an injection
> molding assembly.  It was created in AutoCAD from blueprints, then
> exported as a series of .3DS files.  I imported the .3DS files into
> PolyTrans and converted them into a POV smooth_triangle mesh.  The
> final POV file was a whopping 57.6 meg.
> How it works: The plastic (in pellet form) is fed into the large hole
> at the upper left and the cylinder is heated by the heater bands that
> are wrapped around it.  The temperature ranges from 300-900 degrees
> fahrenheit, depending on the resin used.  The screw spins inside the
> cylinder and forces the melted plastic out the nozzle orifice and into
> a mold.  That's the basic synopsis, anyway.  The vertical cylinders
> are thermocouples.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Doug Eichenberg
> http://www.nls.net/douge
> dou### [at] nlsnet


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From: Doug Eichenberg
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 23:34:36
Message: <398796cc$1@news.povray.org>
> I hate to say it, but I knew it for what it was when I saw it.
> There was a time when I was interested in plastics and how they
> were worked. In the course of my reading I have seen similar
> injectors. This one looks very much like the pictures I saw.
> You have done a good job at the modeling.

Glad to hear someone else recognized it!  I see these things everyday at
work (I'm a design engineer for a company called Plastic Process Equipment).
I've seen some incredibly complex mixing screws, a couple feet in diameter
and so large you need a truck to move them.  I even designed one that was
used to inject meat by-products into dog bone molds.  I once designed a
screw used by a company making solid rocket propellant.  The temperature had
to be kept to very strict tolerances to avoid any unfortunate mishaps.



- Doug Eichenberg
  http://www.getinfo.net/douge
  dou### [at] nlsnet


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From: Ian Witham
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 1 Aug 2000 23:41:33
Message: <3987986d@news.povray.org>
How about adding a sense of scale?
You could add something to the scene like the tip of a pencil, the whole
pencil, or the pencil delivery truck-- whichever is appropriate ;-)


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From: annda namon
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 00:14:49
Message: <39879FE8.57DA5FF0@hotmail.com>
before i read i thought it was a down hole crude oil pump


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From: annda namon
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 00:20:26
Message: <3987A139.2DB79010@hotmail.com>
also you might want to try some very very small scratches on some of the
metal and some texture or somthing so it looks like real


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 03:26:28
Message: <h7jfos04adlmafmigghp9hs3c1a5j989gm@4ax.com>
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:31:01 -0400, "Doug Eichenberg" <dou### [at] nlsnet>
wrote:

>No, it's not a submarine!

I see perfectly well what it is and I hate it! No, not your model,
it's perfect and there lies the problem -- it reminds me of my
Manufacturing Processes exam in September :((

Really, really good modelling!


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From: ryan constantine
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 03:55:22
Message: <3987D374.1A84B70B@yahoo.com>
i worked in rotomolding, but not injection molding.  fun college job.

Doug Eichenberg wrote:
> 
> > I hate to say it, but I knew it for what it was when I saw it.
> > There was a time when I was interested in plastics and how they
> > were worked. In the course of my reading I have seen similar
> > injectors. This one looks very much like the pictures I saw.
> > You have done a good job at the modeling.
> 
> Glad to hear someone else recognized it!  I see these things everyday at
> work (I'm a design engineer for a company called Plastic Process Equipment).
> I've seen some incredibly complex mixing screws, a couple feet in diameter
> and so large you need a truck to move them.  I even designed one that was
> used to inject meat by-products into dog bone molds.  I once designed a
> screw used by a company making solid rocket propellant.  The temperature had
> to be kept to very strict tolerances to avoid any unfortunate mishaps.
> 
> - Doug Eichenberg
>   http://www.getinfo.net/douge
>   dou### [at] nlsnet


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 17:24:54
Message: <398891a6@news.povray.org>
"ryan constantine" <rco### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:3987D374.1A84B70B@yahoo.com...
| i worked in rotomolding, but not injection molding.  fun college job.
|
| Doug Eichenberg wrote:
| >
| > > I hate to say it, but I knew it for what it was when I saw it.
| > > There was a time when I was interested in plastics and how they
| > > were worked. In the course of my reading I have seen similar
| > > injectors. This one looks very much like the pictures I saw.
| > > You have done a good job at the modeling.
| >
| > Glad to hear someone else recognized it!

I didn't really know exactly, although I was guessing some sort of liquids
transporter/compressor.
Nice CAD drawing  ;-)

Bob


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 18:27:04
Message: <slrn8oh7bl.3ij.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
Besp submarine I've seen done in pov.

Either it's in a dry dock or you're not all that good
at doing water. 

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 23:46:58
Message: <3988E951.C5AC2FA2@faricy.net>
Peter Popov wrote:

> >No, it's not a submarine!
>
> I see perfectly well what it is and I hate it! No, not your model,
> it's perfect and there lies the problem -- it reminds me of my
> Manufacturing Processes exam in September :((

Oh, you mean one of those pointless wasteful classes that are included
in college cirriculum? (My brother had to learn Semiconductor
Manufacturing Process for ECE, which isn't that bad, and Folk Music of
the World as part of the cultural diversity political re-education that
has infected this country.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 2 Aug 2000 23:48:20
Message: <3988E9A4.29CF523F@faricy.net>
Cool, does it have nuclear missiles and a fission generator?

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 3 Aug 2000 02:52:55
Message: <398916c7$1@news.povray.org>
Funny looking fountain pen you have there.....

Mark


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 3 Aug 2000 04:26:12
Message: <39892ca4@news.povray.org>
Great work! Spending enough to get AutoCad, and getting good enough to use
it, seemed like too far to go to have fun with Pov (to me). My hats off to
you.

This is the kind of stuff I enjoy doing. :) Your pov file is too large
though. May I recommend the mesh compressor? :) My latest, greatest work of
wonder came in at around 10 megs, which compressed to just over 1.5 Megs.

Grim


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From: Doug Eichenberg
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 3 Aug 2000 17:39:05
Message: <3989e679$1@news.povray.org>
> This is the kind of stuff I enjoy doing. :) Your pov file is too large
> though. May I recommend the mesh compressor? :) My latest, greatest work
of
> wonder came in at around 10 megs, which compressed to just over 1.5 Megs.

Yes, you may recommend it.  Check out my post in general a week or so
back... I compared file size in a bunch of different formats, and warps PCM
format was one of the smallest.  Compression was around 75%.  You can also
use Chris's hair growth macro on PCM files (very cool macro BTW).

Doug Eichenberg
http://www.nls.net/douge
dou### [at] nlsnet


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From: Doug Eichenberg
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 3 Aug 2000 17:40:30
Message: <3989e6ce$1@news.povray.org>
Honestly... you folks are too much.  What a bunch of hilarious 
responses.
 
Doug Eichenberg
http://www.nls.net/douge
dou### [at] nlsnet


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From: Psychomek
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 6 Aug 2000 01:26:25
Message: <398CF830.38BC3033@home.com>
I've Seen one of those...   I know a guy who works on them.....  now if
he could "slip" me some of the blue prints..........

Doug Eichenberg wrote:

>  No, it's not a submarine!Something I'm doing for work... thought I'd
> share it.  The original is much larger in resolution, so some of the
> smaller details (like the threading) don't show here.  It's a cut-away
> model of an injection molding assembly.  It was created in AutoCAD
> from blueprints, then exported as a series of .3DS files.  I imported
> the .3DS files into PolyTrans and converted them into a POV
> smooth_triangle mesh.  The final POV file was a whopping 57.6 meg.How
> it works: The plastic (in pellet form) is fed into the large hole at
> the upper left and the cylinder is heated by the heater bands that are
> wrapped around it.  The temperature ranges from 300-900 degrees
> fahrenheit, depending on the resin used.  The screw spins inside the
> cylinder and forces the melted plastic out the nozzle orifice and into
> a mold.  That's the basic synopsis, anyway.  The vertical cylinders
> are thermocouples.
> --
> Doug Eichenberg
> http://www.nls.net/douge
> dou### [at] nlsnet


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From: Doug Eichenberg
Subject: Re: Not a submarine
Date: 8 Aug 2000 20:03:38
Message: <39909fda$1@news.povray.org>
Can you say "corporate confidentiality?"   :)

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