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From: TonyB
Subject: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 25 Mar 2000 22:56:03
Message: <38dd8a53@news.povray.org>
I say "crap" because it turned out so differently from what I had planned it
that it's almost an insult to post it. My fireflies are too bright and the
A0.5 really ruined it. I wanted it to render faster, after the power outage
and all, so I set it like that. What a stupid decision. Anyway, until I
figure out a way to speed up the rendering or something, here's "Fireflies
at night".


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:09:37
Message: <38dd8d81@news.povray.org>
It's still kinda neat, doesn't look all that bad if you realize what you're
supposed to be seeing.  The fireflies here (known as lightning bugs) are around
the trees instead, probably because I have no lawn, and usually seem to go
higher as the night goes on.

Bob

"TonyB" <ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote in message
news:38dd8a53@news.povray.org...
| I say "crap" because it turned out so differently from what I had planned it
| that it's almost an insult to post it. My fireflies are too bright and the
| A0.5 really ruined it. I wanted it to render faster, after the power outage
| and all, so I set it like that. What a stupid decision. Anyway, until I
| figure out a way to speed up the rendering or something, here's "Fireflies
| at night".
|
|
|


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:27:45
Message: <38dd91c1@news.povray.org>
>It's still kinda neat, doesn't look all that bad if you realize what you're
>supposed to be seeing.

Thanks... I guess. :)

>The fireflies here (known as lightning bugs) are around
>the trees instead, probably because I have no lawn, and usually seem to go
>higher as the night goes on.

I've seen two types here in Panama. One type looks like a cockroach, only
smaller. It doesn't glow continuously, but rather flickers like a spark. It
is orange. I've seen those only in grassy areas (a playground was where I
first spotted them). The other type is green. It's also like a roach, only
thinner and smaller. They glow nice and softly for... well, I've never seen
them turn off. They're my favorite type.

If anyone has seen the anime/manga Rurouni Kenshin, the fireflies I was
shooting for were the type from the "goodbye" scene, when Kenshin says
"sayonara" to Kaoru for the "last time", and goes off to fight Makoto
Shishio. Beautiful scene (the kind that brings tears to your eyes). Great
music (Cavalleria Rusticana, Pedro Mascagniani).

PS: If anyone wants me to, I can post a screenshot of that episode.


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:43:48
Message: <38dd9584@news.povray.org>
BTW, I ran into a strange "bug" while creating this scene. The only way I
got it to render was with -UL. As you can imagine, each firefly is a
lightsource. There are about 100+ of them. The problem occurs when you don't
have -UL. First it reports an error "Slab building error" and then a box
comes out saying "Failed to allocate memory for message string.", when I
click "OK" it reports "Returned from render (non-zero return value)". If I
press the "Stop" button, then a message fills up the message pane really
quickly and it crashes, blaming it on kernel32.dll*. Is this bad?


*
MEGAPOV caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0257:bff7b997.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0257 EIP=bff7b997 EFLGS=00000246
EBX=bff7b97e SS=025f ESP=01f4e9c0 EBP=03092e78
ECX=000000ac DS=025f ESI=0051a400 FS=74b7
EDX=00000000 ES=025f EDI=00000008 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
ff 76 04 e8 26 89 ff ff 5e c2 04 00 56 8b 74 24
Stack dump:
0050d528 004b3610 0051a400 00000000 0050d528 03092e78 00000008 0051508e
bff54579 bff7b97e 004b35b1 00000fe8 00916b4f 00916b00 bff7b97e 00000000


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 26 Mar 2000 02:43:40
Message: <qb7dOPTsf+gc+X4DbYDqVcSQKXUz@4ax.com>
On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:22:01 -0500, "TonyB"
<ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote:

>I've seen two types here in Panama. One type looks like a cockroach, only
>smaller. It doesn't glow continuously, but rather flickers like a spark. It
>is orange. I've seen those only in grassy areas (a playground was where I
>first spotted them).

In late May or Early June these buggers gather around for mating.
There are thousands of them on a tree. What strikes me is that they
flash in perfect unison, giving a very surreal look to granny's town.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 26 Mar 2000 07:51:53
Message: <38de07e9@news.povray.org>
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/1281/MeganM5.html

Pictures of Fireflies. We have lots where people don't spray their yards
with Chem-Lawn or whatever... But I have never seen them blink in unison.

"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote in message
news:qb7dOPTsf+gc+X4DbYDqVcSQKXUz@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:22:01 -0500, "TonyB"
> <ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote:
>
> >I've seen two types here in Panama. One type looks like a cockroach, only
> >smaller. It doesn't glow continuously, but rather flickers like a spark.
It
> >is orange. I've seen those only in grassy areas (a playground was where I
> >first spotted them).
>
> In late May or Early June these buggers gather around for mating.
> There are thousands of them on a tree. What strikes me is that they
> flash in perfect unison, giving a very surreal look to granny's town.
>
>
> Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
> Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
> TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 26 Mar 2000 14:39:05
Message: <HGbeOFZo1mK6yX6naQrxEY7iv4Lb@4ax.com>
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:51:47 -0500, "Bill DeWitt"
<the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/1281/MeganM5.html
>
>Pictures of Fireflies. We have lots where people don't spray their yards
>with Chem-Lawn or whatever... But I have never seen them blink in unison.

The unison seems to be localised in domains of a couple of meters in
size. If two trees are adjacent it way happen that the touching parts
flash together. Or if a tree is big enough several big flashing spots
may be observed. It is a yet unexplained phenomenon afaik.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau> - 47+16kb(?)
Date: 26 Mar 2000 16:32:21
Message: <38de81e5@news.povray.org>
I have a few photos the type of lightning (yes, not spelled lightening) bug we
have in these parts.  Not very good photographs but does show one lit up.
Just a sidebar on these names using the AOL dictionary:

lightning bug (noun)

First appeared 1778

 : FIREFLY
fire*fly (noun)

First appeared 1658

 : any of various winged nocturnal beetles (esp. family Lampyridae) that produce
a bright soft intermittent light by oxidation of luciferin esp. for courtship
purposes.


Bob

"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote in message
news:HGbeOFZo1mK6yX6naQrxEY7iv4Lb@4ax.com...
| On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:51:47 -0500, "Bill DeWitt"
| <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
|
| >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/1281/MeganM5.html
| >
| >Pictures of Fireflies. We have lots where people don't spray their yards
| >with Chem-Lawn or whatever... But I have never seen them blink in unison.
|
| The unison seems to be localised in domains of a couple of meters in
| size. If two trees are adjacent it way happen that the touching parts
| flash together. Or if a tree is big enough several big flashing spots
| may be observed. It is a yet unexplained phenomenon afaik.
|
|
| Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
| Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
| TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau> - 47+16kb(?)
Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:27:05
Message: <38DEE16C.A2CF516@fci.net>
Speaking of Lightning bugs, you might want to check this out:
http://www.raph.com/3dartists/jesus1.jpg

Do hope you enjoy.

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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau> - 47+16kb(?)
Date: 27 Mar 2000 08:29:57
Message: <38df6255@news.povray.org>
>Do hope you enjoy.


Oh, I did. :) Nice. How did he do that? And why don't others do it more
often?


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:54:17
Message: <slrn8dv3qi.dc4.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:37:19 +0300, Peter Popov wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:51:47 -0500, "Bill DeWitt"
><the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
>
>>http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/1281/MeganM5.html
>>
>>Pictures of Fireflies. We have lots where people don't spray their yards
>>with Chem-Lawn or whatever... But I have never seen them blink in unison.
>
>The unison seems to be localised in domains of a couple of meters in
>size. If two trees are adjacent it way happen that the touching parts
>flash together. Or if a tree is big enough several big flashing spots
>may be observed. It is a yet unexplained phenomenon afaik.

Maybe the flashing isn't 100% in their controle, say caused or influenced
by solar winds or something.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:54:18
Message: <slrn8dv43t.dc4.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:50:12 -0500, TonyB wrote:
>I say "crap" because it turned out so differently from what I had planned it
>that it's almost an insult to post it. My fireflies are too bright and the
>A0.5 really ruined it. I wanted it to render faster, after the power outage
>and all, so I set it like that. What a stupid decision. Anyway, until I
>figure out a way to speed up the rendering or something, here's "Fireflies
>at night".

If it takes ages to render just send the source over and explain what render
settings to use, I'll put it in the background for a week or so and send 
you the finished product.

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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 27 Mar 2000 12:46:26
Message: <38df9e72@news.povray.org>
What kinda machine have you got?


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau> - 47+16kb(?)
Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:27:01
Message: <38dfc415@news.povray.org>
She's being attacked by a menacing horde of fireflies? ;-)
That Moon got me to thinking... is it upside-down in the southern hemisphere?

Bob

"H.E. Day" <hed### [at] fcinet> wrote in message news:38D### [at] fcinet...
| Speaking of Lightning bugs, you might want to check this out:
| http://www.raph.com/3dartists/jesus1.jpg
|
| Do hope you enjoy.
|
| --
| H.E. Day
|
|


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 27 Mar 2000 17:49:22
Message: <slrn8dvp2p.dsm.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:44:56 -0500, TonyB wrote:
>What kinda machine have you got?

One that never sleeps. 

PII 266, if it takes your machine 4 days to render it should take
mine about 8 days, but when renders are running I son't notice them,
the linux multitasking is excelent, never saw anything like it on 
Win95 or NT, I can have 3 or 4 renders all going at the same time
and go about my usual everyday business as if they're not there.

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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:07:07
Message: <38DFE5BA.F828A827@hjp.at>
Steve wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:37:19 +0300, Peter Popov wrote:
> >The unison seems to be localised in domains of a couple of meters in
> >size. If two trees are adjacent it way happen that the touching parts
> >flash together. Or if a tree is big enough several big flashing spots
> >may be observed. It is a yet unexplained phenomenon afaik.
> 
> Maybe the flashing isn't 100% in their controle, say caused or influenced
> by solar winds or something.

According to a Scientific American article several years ago, the 
synchronized flashing happens because the probability that a bug flashes
does not only increase with time but also with flashes in their 
vicinity.
So bugs which are almost synchronisized will soon synchronize
completely. 
The others will "drift" until they come in sync and then be locked into 
the rythm too.

	hp 

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 28 Mar 2000 04:46:08
Message: <38e07f60@news.povray.org>
Like those road barrier/blockade/hurtle-jump or barrel things (can't exactly
look up the correct name) with the flashing amber lights maybe.   Everytime I've
seen a bunch of those in a long column or row and watched long enough or even a
short time they tend to get into sync for a few flashes every so often.  I've
always thought that was one of the high points in life.  Goes to show how my
mind works.

Bob

"Peter J. Holzer" <hjp### [at] hjpat> wrote in message news:38DFE5BA.F828A827@hjp.at...
| Steve wrote:
| >
| > On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:37:19 +0300, Peter Popov wrote:
| > >The unison seems to be localised in domains of a couple of meters in
| > >size. If two trees are adjacent it way happen that the touching parts
| > >flash together. Or if a tree is big enough several big flashing spots
| > >may be observed. It is a yet unexplained phenomenon afaik.
| >
| > Maybe the flashing isn't 100% in their controle, say caused or influenced
| > by solar winds or something.
|
| According to a Scientific American article several years ago, the
| synchronized flashing happens because the probability that a bug flashes
| does not only increase with time but also with flashes in their
| vicinity.
| So bugs which are almost synchronisized will soon synchronize
| completely.
| The others will "drift" until they come in sync and then be locked into
| the rythm too.
|
| hp
|
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| |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR                |
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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Crap to the MaXeR :( <~47kau>
Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:39:08
Message: <slrn8e1eq0.euk.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 03:45:10 -0600, Bob Hughes wrote:
>Like those road barrier/blockade/hurtle-jump or barrel things (can't exactly
>look up the correct name) with the flashing amber lights maybe.   Everytime I've
>seen a bunch of those in a long column or row and watched long enough or even a
>short time they tend to get into sync for a few flashes every so often.  I've
>always thought that was one of the high points in life.  Goes to show how my
>mind works.

I've seen that too, apart from when they're in sync they seem to flash at 
totally random intervals.

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