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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 01:58:19
Message: <38D72014.C7F1BB8A@aol.com>
I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
results. Any questions or comments?

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From: Simen Kvaal
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 02:35:40
Message: <38d7264c$1@news.povray.org>
YES! Finally someone who achieved the mf-results that I wanted! Maybe you
could inform me about the parameters and how to adjust them? I couldn't
figure it out from the docs. I understand what the different params _mean_
but not how to set them, if you know what I mean...

There seems to be som kind of disconinuity in the middle; which of course is
a feature in the mf, but maybe in this example it would be cool to fill it
with water or some lava? Just suggesting, of course...

What was the render time on this?

Simen.

SamuelT. skrev i meldingen <38D72014.C7F1BB8A@aol.com>...
>I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
>results. Any questions or comments?
>
>--
>Samuel Benge
>
>E-Mail: STB### [at] aolcom
>
>Visit the still unfinished isosurface tutorial:
>http://members.aol.com/stbenge
>
>


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 07:15:42
Message: <38d767ee@news.povray.org>
Surperbly realistic - nature really is one giant mess of math...

Rick

"SamuelT." <STB### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:38D72014.C7F1BB8A@aol.com...
> I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
> results. Any questions or comments?
>
> --
> Samuel Benge
>
> E-Mail: STB### [at] aolcom
>
> Visit the still unfinished isosurface tutorial:
> http://members.aol.com/stbenge
>
>


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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:22:50
Message: <38d793ca$1@news.povray.org>
Very nice - I like it.

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"SamuelT." <STB### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
> results. Any questions or comments?
>
> --
> Samuel Benge
>
> E-Mail: STB### [at] aolcom
>
> Visit the still unfinished isosurface tutorial:
> http://members.aol.com/stbenge
>
>


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:36:15
Message: <38d796ef@news.povray.org>
Did you come up with the name yourself or did you get it from arrakis.es? I
wish I knew how to do what you did with mf. All I get is stuff that looks
like sea water. :P


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From: Moon47
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 14:33:56
Message: <38D67F95.84338021@earthlink.net>
The name I believe comes from the book or more widely known the movie with
sting playing one of the bad guys... ( Quote:<english accent> I will kill
you!!!)
"Dune": A desert planet where a sort of spiritual spice is mined in the sands
filled w/ deadly, huge, sand worms...

TonyB wrote:

> Did you come up with the name yourself or did you get it from arrakis.es? I
> wish I knew how to do what you did with mf. All I get is stuff that looks
> like sea water. :P


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From: Moon47
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 14:37:27
Message: <38D68068.CD39CA43@earthlink.net>
Arrakis had virtually none, or very few rock structures... Looks good for
mars though it is not as an appealing name...
btw... Where are the sand worms... And the lightning in the ground that
proceeds them...?

"SamuelT." wrote:

> I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
> results. Any questions or comments?
>
> --
> Samuel Benge
>
> E-Mail: STB### [at] aolcom
>
> Visit the still unfinished isosurface tutorial:
> http://members.aol.com/stbenge
>
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>  [Image]


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:19:27
Message: <38d7d94f@news.povray.org>
"SamuelT." <STB### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:38D72014.C7F1BB8A@aol.com...
> I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
> results. Any questions or comments?
>

    Great image, but I must have missed something. What are these ridged
multifractals and how can I get one to play with? Will my Wife get mad at me
if I play with it too much?


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:12:38
Message: <38d80ff6@news.povray.org>
>The name I believe comes from the book or more widely known the movie with
>sting playing one of the bad guys... ( Quote:<english accent> I will kill
>you!!!)

Never heard of it. BTW, who or what is "sting"?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:28:31
Message: <38D81418.2FC22BF6@pacbell.net>
TonyB wrote:

> Never heard of it. BTW, who or what is "sting"?

Sting - Rock and Roll artist and sometimes actor.

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:53:26
Message: <NhnYOKh7n5YWMnF5eNkUBjAdUljr@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:11:21 -0500, "TonyB"
<ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote:

>>The name I believe comes from the book or more widely known the movie with
>>sting playing one of the bad guys... ( Quote:<english accent> I will kill
>>you!!!)
>
>Never heard of it. BTW, who or what is "sting"?

The only man I've seen using a double bass (contrabass) as a bass
guitar. Finger picking at that...


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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:30:30
Message: <38D84108.AE515B11@aol.com>
Moon47 wrote:

> Arrakis had virtually none, or very few rock structures...

Don't you remember when the great stone cliff near that one base that had the
force field? The one that got blow up?


>  Where are the sand worms... And the lightning in the ground that
> proceeds them...?

They don't have a reason to come out..... Anyways, they can't manuever very well
around all those rocks. :)


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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:36:10
Message: <38D8425A.82ED724@aol.com>
Simen Kvaal wrote:

> YES! Finally someone who achieved the mf-results that I wanted!

Where? (looks both ways :)


> Maybe you
> could inform me about the parameters and how to adjust them? I couldn't
> figure it out from the docs. I understand what the different params _mean_
> but not how to set them, if you know what I mean...

Yeah, they didn't tell us where to start, only that 'H' did this, and such; they
didn't give us starting numbers to use.
Here's my scene code:

#version unofficial MegaPov .4;

camera{location<0,3,-8>*4 look_at y*-4 rotate y*0 angle 40}

light_source{<200000,100000,-0000>,<1.2 1.2 1.15>}
light_source{<-100000,-10000,-20000>,<.15 .1 .05> shadowless}

//sky_sphere{pigment{granite color_map{[0 rgb<.4 .7 1>][1 rgb 1]}}}

background{<.65 .8 1>*.8}

fog{rgb<.95 .9 .8> distance 200 fog_type 2 fog_alt 20 fog_offset 0}

#declare Fract=function "ridgedMF",<1,2,8,-.5,1>

isosurface{
 function (-y)+(Fract(x,0,z)/15)
 threshold 1 sign -1
 accuracy .001 method 2 eval
 contained_by{box{<-10,-2,-5>,<10,0,10>}}
 //pigment{rgb 1}finish{diffuse 1}
 texture{slope y
  texture_map{
   [.915 pigment{rgb<.45 .4 .3>}normal{granite .5 scale .1}]
   [.925 pigment{rgb<.9 .8 .7>}finish{diffuse .9}]
  }
 }
 scale 20
}


> What was the render time on this?

41 minutes and 45 seconds (ouch) on my P166 mhz

>

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From: Moon47
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:49:33
Message: <38D6F3BD.EFD202BD@earthlink.net>
The singer from the police...? Ya' know <real bad singing
voice>"Roxane.......     you don't have ta turn on tha red
light.....Raaaaksane..."
Any way where have you been under a rock or something... just kidding...
Check out the book in your local or school library... I think you would like
it... Or if you're too lazy there's always blockbuster but i recommend the
book it is much more detailed...

TonyB wrote:

> >The name I believe comes from the book or more widely known the movie with
> >sting playing one of the bad guys... ( Quote:<english accent> I will kill
> >you!!!)
>
> Never heard of it. BTW, who or what is "sting"?


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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:49:46
Message: <38D8458F.89EFFE40@aol.com>
Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     Great image, but I must have missed something. What are these ridged
> multifractals and how can I get one to play with? Will my Wife get mad at me
> if I play with it too much?

They are functions to be used for isosurfaces. They make excellent mountains and
are available within MegaPov .4

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 06:54:30
Message: <chrishuff_99-367DBB.06563622032000@news.povray.org>
In article <38D84108.AE515B11@aol.com>, "SamuelT." <STB### [at] aolcom> 
wrote:

> Moon47 wrote:
> 
> > Arrakis had virtually none, or very few rock structures...
> 
> Don't you remember when the great stone cliff near that one base that 
> had the force field? The one that got blow up?

I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of 
Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall" 
of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the 
rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't 
remember very well, though).

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From: Jerome
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:01:33
Message: <38D8B61D.B965DA2@iname.com>
SamuelT. wrote:
> 
> I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
> results. Any questions or comments?
> 
	Looks very good. Any chance of a peek at the code? Please?

		Jerome
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From: Jerome
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:07:14
Message: <38D8B772.4F774596@iname.com>
Moon47 wrote:
> 
> The singer from the police...? Ya' know <real bad singing
> voice>"Roxane.......     you don't have ta turn on tha red
> light.....Raaaaksane..."
> Any way where have you been under a rock or something... just kidding...
> Check out the book in your local or school library... I think you would like
> it... Or if you're too lazy there's always blockbuster but i recommend the
> book it is much more detailed...
> 
	And much better anyway... The film is a great comic show
once you've read the book, though I doubt that was the
intention...

		Jerome
-- 
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* Doctor Jekyll had something * mailto:ber### [at] inamecom
* to Hyde...                  * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
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From: Jerome
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:11:38
Message: <38D8B875.DD256C6C@iname.com>
Thanks for the code

		Jerome
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* to Hyde...                  * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:12:12
Message: <38d8b89c@news.povray.org>
"Jerome" <ber### [at] inamecom> wrote :
> >
> And much better anyway... The film is a great comic show
> once you've read the book, though I doubt that was the
> intention...
>

    The film is comedic only if you don't take it as an insult. I found it
insulting.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:28:18
Message: <38D90314.E837832C@pacbell.net>
Chris Huff wrote:

> I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> remember very well, though).

In Dune the movie they clearly showed isolated outcrops of rock scattered
about the planet but yes everywhere else the planet was fine grained sand
dunes.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:30:14
Message: <38D90388.549EC3C9@pacbell.net>
Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     The film is comedic only if you don't take it as an insult. I found it
> insulting.

I found it no more insulting than the Star Wars movies are.

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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:48:38
Message: <38D988BE.16D62BB1@aol.com>
In closing, perhaps my scene is just showing a larger rock outcropping. :)

Ken wrote:

> Chris Huff wrote:
>
> > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > remember very well, though).
>
> In Dune the movie they clearly showed isolated outcrops of rock scattered
> about the planet but yes everywhere else the planet was fine grained sand
> dunes.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:50:26
Message: <38D9892A.7FA37618@aol.com>
I hope to get a hold of the book to read it; I've only seen the movie, which I
enjoyed thoroughly.

Jerome wrote:

>         And much better anyway... The film is a great comic show
> once you've read the book, though I doubt that was the
> intention...
>
>                 Jerome
> --
> ******************************* Jérôme M. BERGER
> * Doctor Jekyll had something * mailto:ber### [at] inamecom
> * to Hyde...                  * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
> *******************************

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:52:15
Message: <38D986B2.8F7ABBD8@attglobal.net>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Chris Huff wrote:
> 
> > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > remember very well, though).

As far as I can remember, the rock formation was natural.  They built
the city there to protect it from the worms.

> 
> In Dune the movie they clearly showed isolated outcrops of rock scattered
> about the planet but yes everywhere else the planet was fine grained sand
> dunes.

Except in the South.  There are rumours of oases and green rolling
hills, but they are only rumours as the Guild's Sattelites are forbidden
from flying over this area.

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     flabreq      | terrestrial intelligence is that they never
        @         | bothered to come down here and visit us!
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:13:31
Message: <38d9ee4b$1@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:38D90314.E837832C@pacbell.net...
>
>
> Chris Huff wrote:
>
> > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > remember very well, though).
>

There was, AFAIK, quite a few bits of rock in the book. Paul and his mother
escape from a sandworm after the thopter crash by moving into a rocky area.
Most of the Freeman water reservoirs are in rock caves.

God, the movie stunk - main reasons? Lynch didn't give a damn, the Baron
should have lived in opulent splendour, Paul was badly cast, it wasn't six
hours long, and Hollywood probably couldn't cope with the idea that the
heroic Freeman should all have been played by fanatical Arabs....


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:18:14
Message: <38D9EFAA.50AA6868@pacbell.net>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38D90314.E837832C@pacbell.net...
> >
> >
> > Chris Huff wrote:
> >
> > > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > > remember very well, though).
> >
> 
> There was, AFAIK, quite a few bits of rock in the book. Paul and his mother
> escape from a sandworm after the thopter crash by moving into a rocky area.
> Most of the Freeman water reservoirs are in rock caves.
> 
> God, the movie stunk - main reasons? Lynch didn't give a damn, the Baron
> should have lived in opulent splendour, Paul was badly cast, it wasn't six
> hours long, and Hollywood probably couldn't cope with the idea that the
> heroic Freeman should all have been played by fanatical Arabs....


I consider myself a well read but discriminating sci-fi reader and the
truth be told I thought the Dune series was an aweful bore. I liked the
movie because there was so much to laugh at.

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:45:29
Message: <38d9f5c9@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:38D9EFAA.50AA6868@pacbell.net...
>
> I consider myself a well read but discriminating sci-fi reader and the
> truth be told I thought the Dune series was an aweful bore. I liked the
> movie because there was so much to laugh at.
>

I'd agree(ish) with regard to the sequals, but the first book is definately
in my top-ten sci-fi list. Which one did you read?


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:36:05
Message: <38da2bd5@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandluforce9couk> wrote :
>
> God, the movie stunk - main reasons? Lynch didn't give a damn, the Baron
> should have lived in opulent splendour, Paul was badly cast, it wasn't six
> hours long, and Hollywood probably couldn't cope with the idea that the
> heroic Freeman should all have been played by fanatical Arabs....
>

    True.

    Also, what happened to the "weirding way"? Some sort of a vocal
amplifier? Why not just change -everything- if you are going to ignore some
of the basic premises? Maybe "Dune, 90210" with bathing suits instead of
Stilsuits. I'm guessing that they couldn't find any Aikidoka to play Paul


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:42:02
Message: <38DA4992.38EED057@pacbell.net>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38D9EFAA.50AA6868@pacbell.net...
> >
> > I consider myself a well read but discriminating sci-fi reader and the
> > truth be told I thought the Dune series was an aweful bore. I liked the
> > movie because there was so much to laugh at.
> >
> 
> I'd agree(ish) with regard to the sequals, but the first book is definately
> in my top-ten sci-fi list. Which one did you read?

All of them. When I first started reading Sci-Fi I would raid my brothers
prolific collection and included in that was the entire series of Dune
books - some 25 years ago.

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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:47:38
Message: <38da4aaa@news.povray.org>
"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote :
>
> All of them. When I first started reading Sci-Fi I would raid my brothers
> prolific collection and included in that was the entire series of Dune
> books - some 25 years ago.
>

    There is a new installment just released this year. A "prequel"...


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 01:26:42
Message: <38db0aa2@news.povray.org>
>    Also, what happened to the "weirding way"? Some sort of a vocal
>amplifier? Why not just change -everything- if you are going to ignore some
>of the basic premises? Maybe "Dune, 90210" with bathing suits instead of
>Stilsuits. I'm guessing that they couldn't find any Aikidoka to play Paul
>


Steven Segal?  His aikido isn't too bad, acting ability, well.....

Gail
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 27 Mar 2000 22:58:29
Message: <38E02CD8.B8B2047D@faricy.net>
"SamuelT." wrote:

> I was playing with ridged multifractals today and here is one of the
> results. Any questions or comments?

What is a ridged multifractal? Is it similar to perlin noise?

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