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From: Ken
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 04:13:18
Message: <38CA0E9D.DB449045@pacbell.net>
Noah A wrote:
> 
> i rrreeaaalllyyy hate you ;)

Does this mean that you rue the Day ?

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From: Equiprawn
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 05:35:44
Message: <38ca2180@news.povray.org>
Wow man, your models just blow me away! Looks like a lightwave trace - sooo
cool!

Please please please write a blob tutorial! :)

Equiprawn


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From: Lars Luthman
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 07:02:49
Message: <38ca35e9@news.povray.org>
You did all that with blobs? I'm very impressed.


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From: H E  Day
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:36:11
Message: <38CA82BA.8FC62530@fci.net>
> Does this mean that you rue the Day ?

That's really poor, Ken. Really poor.


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From: Robert Chaffe
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:39:31
Message: <38ca84d3$1@news.povray.org>
Ken wrote
>
>
> Noah A wrote:
> >
> > i rrreeaaalllyyy hate you ;)
>
> Does this mean that you rue the Day ?
>

Ouch !


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 16:10:22
Message: <38CAB564.25FBECF2@faricy.net>
Ross Litscher wrote:

> I don't really like the lights on the ship. I mean, the windows or whatever
> they are (the blue things). On the dark side of the ship they look
> appropriate, er well, decent atleast. If they are windows, then i actually
> don't think they fit quite right. If they are just lights, then they look
> alright, but only on the dark parts of the ship. Where the ship is
> illuminated, they look like they were drawn on with markers.
>
> I guess the same goes for the ships texture. It looks fsking awesome in the
> lowlight areas of the ship, but looks a little too plast[icky] in the well
> lit areas.

I agree, the texturing is bad but the modelling is good.

> All this of course with a grain of salt (or whatever the saying is) because
> I couldn't do any better.

But of course! Don't we all? :-p

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From: H  E  Day
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 16:51:23
Message: <01bf8ba3$28405ca0$f0073ea6@default>
What don'tcha like about them?  I think they look awsome/cool. :)

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From: Lt  Kettch
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 16:58:46
Message: <38CABDAD.87E9104A@aol.com>
But there not official Trek style


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From: H  E  Day
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 17:04:23
Message: <01bf8ba4$f9328bc0$f0073ea6@default>
Darcy Johnston <djo### [at] inamecomNOSPAM> wrote in article
<38c9d789$1@news.povray.org>...
> I agree with much of Ross' critisisms, but I would add that it seems as
if
> the ambient portion of the windows' texture is too high, so there seems
ot
> be lack of depth to them. But as was already mentioned, I highly doubt I
> could do better. :)
Already fixed!


> One question somewhat off topic: You mentioned some time ago that you
were
> attempting to create a tutorial on using blobs. I was wondering how that
was
> coming along? Any chance we may see it soon? And in the interim, are
there
> any basic hints you could offer to get us started? This is a area of
Povray
> in which I really lack any skill. Also, any insight you could offer on
how
> you do create your textures might also be quite helpfull.

Sure. Lets see, a basic hint......Ok.  To me, blob modeling is a lot like
modeling with clay.  You can add bits, you an scoop huge chunks out, you
can taper to a point.  My personal trick, without which I couldn't make
anything, is what I call Feathering.  
It's taking a blob component, say a sphere, 
sphere {0,1,1 scale <30,5,70> translate -4*y-40*z}

and copying and pasting it several times.  Now go back to the first three
numbers:
sphere {0,1,1.......
sphere {0,1,1.......
sphere {0,1,1.......

Now you decrease the blob power (third number) and increase the radius
(second number).  Leave the first alone.

sphere {0,1,1/2.......
sphere {0,1.2,1/4.......
sphere {0,1.4,1/4.......
Note how the powers of the three components add up to the power of the
sphere you started with.  When rendered with other components this serves
to greatly smooth the lines between components. The downside, however, is
rather messy code.  Still the speed decrease is minimal.  I once had a 10
component blob and a 10000 component blob.  The first only rendered one
second faster than the second!!!!  You must remember to manually bound your
blobs.   To do so put the blob in a union {} statement,
union {
blob{....}
}
and use the same bounds on both.

union {
blob {....
bounded_by {...}
clipped_by {bounded_by}
}
bounded_by {...}
clipped_by {bounded_by}
}

This will seriously speed the render up!
Hope this helps you!

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H.E. Day


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From: H  E  Day
Subject: Re: StarFleet Blobs (Very big)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 17:06:27
Message: <01bf8ba5$4361a280$f0073ea6@default>
> You know that scanning in and posting professional books will probably
get
> you in trouble.

I hate that joke.

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H.E. Day


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