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Just thought I would see what it could do
to one of my favorite places.
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Mr. Art
"Often the appearance of reality is more important
than the reality of the appearance."
Bill DeWitt 2000
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One of my favorite places too... well done...
"mr.art" wrote:
> Just thought I would see what it could do
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> --
> Mr. Art
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> "Often the appearance of reality is more important
> than the reality of the appearance."
> Bill DeWitt 2000
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"mr.art" wrote:
> Just thought I would see what it could do
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Ooh! Aah!
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> Just thought I would see what it could do
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Your favorite place is the southwestern United States? :-)
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First time I have ever seen an image of the earth with a large phong
or maybe a diffuse highlight but the colors are good.
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Earth in general. Just a close up to see if the
mountains really did cast shadows in the dawn
terminator.
David Fontaine wrote:
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<snooty mode>
I'll have you know that I used Blinn "microfacet" highlights
</snooty mode>
Ken wrote:
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> "mr.art" wrote:
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> First time I have ever seen an image of the earth with a large phong
> or maybe a diffuse highlight but the colors are good.
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> --
> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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Mr. Art
"Often the appearance of reality is more important
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Bill DeWitt 2000
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"mr.art" wrote:
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> <snooty mode>
> I'll have you know that I used Blinn "microfacet" highlights
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I surrender !
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Actually, I had never seen the earth with highlights,
but I thought it looked good.
Ken wrote:
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> I surrender !
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> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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Mr. Art
"Often the appearance of reality is more important
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Bill DeWitt 2000
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how you mannaged to get the land so glossy!
ya missed a spot
:)
try some sort of a stencil so the land isnt gossy
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> Just thought I would see what it could do
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> --
> Mr. Art
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> "Often the appearance of reality is more important
> than the reality of the appearance."
> Bill DeWitt 2000
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:3894D38A.F6F3E4D4@gci.net...
| Actually, I had never seen the earth with highlights,
It does of course. Any elevation above ground from your standing height (or
lower?) to orbital height (and higher?) can show it. Look into your own heads
shadow at noon and you'll likely see it's brighter immediately around the shadow
edges, from an airplane shows it very well, and there are numerous Earth photos
which show it too. This particular image with the sunlight direction off-center
may be a different story though. Anyway I've never seen that much before, it
implies a lot of roughness, or *small-scale angular faceting, on the surface. I
want to try that type of highlighting myself now :-)
*blinn microfacets?
Bob
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The real problem for me is to get the highlighting on the "water"
areas only. Any ideas? The whole thing is an isosurface with a nice
pigment map from NASA to overlay the shape. The isosurface is defined by
a
grayscale image from NASA.
Bob Hughes wrote:
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> "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:3894D38A.F6F3E4D4@gci.net...
> | Actually, I had never seen the earth with highlights,
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> It does of course. Any elevation above ground from your standing height (or
> lower?) to orbital height (and higher?) can show it. Look into your own heads
> shadow at noon and you'll likely see it's brighter immediately around the shadow
> edges, from an airplane shows it very well, and there are numerous Earth photos
> which show it too. This particular image with the sunlight direction off-center
> may be a different story though. Anyway I've never seen that much before, it
> implies a lot of roughness, or *small-scale angular faceting, on the surface. I
> want to try that type of highlighting myself now :-)
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> *blinn microfacets?
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> Bob
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Mr. Art
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Should be able to use 'image_pattern' I would think. Then it's just a matter of
finding the water/index association and using separate textures and applying
them over top of the original image map transparently. Maybe...
Bob
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| The real problem for me is to get the highlighting on the "water"
| areas only. Any ideas? The whole thing is an isosurface with a nice
| pigment map from NASA to overlay the shape. The isosurface is defined by
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Twas a joke.
"mr.art" wrote:
> Earth in general. Just a close up to see if the
> mountains really did cast shadows in the dawn
> terminator.
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> David Fontaine wrote:
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> > > Just thought I would see what it could do
> > > to one of my favorite places.
> >
> > Your favorite place is the southwestern United States? :-)
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"mr.art" wrote:
> Just thought I would see what it could do
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It's a nice place to visit but ...
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The question is not, "Who will let me do it?"
The question is, "Who will stop me?"
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Sorry, my humor sensors have been giving false
readings lately so I have stopped relying on
them. From what I can tell, the works that we
say make up about 7% of what we are trying to
communicate. Body language, tone of voice, facial
expression and such make up so much more. If we
could see and hear what others are saying here,
I think that there might be far less flaming done
here. Well, then again, maybe not.
David Fontaine wrote:
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> Twas a joke.
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> "mr.art" wrote:
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> > Earth in general. Just a close up to see if the
> > mountains really did cast shadows in the dawn
> > terminator.
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> > David Fontaine wrote:
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> > > > Just thought I would see what it could do
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> > >
> > > Your favorite place is the southwestern United States? :-)
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> Homepage: http://www.faricy.net/~davidf/
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Can you cite me some examples of the image_pattern? It looks like what I
need to use but I could learn allot from someone else's work.
Bob Hughes wrote:
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> finding the water/index association and using separate textures and applying
> them over top of the original image map transparently. Maybe...
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> Bob
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> "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:3894E471.817EBF90@gci.net...
> | The real problem for me is to get the highlighting on the "water"
> | areas only. Any ideas? The whole thing is an isosurface with a nice
> | pigment map from NASA to overlay the shape. The isosurface is defined by
> | a grayscale image from NASA.
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Mr. Art
"Often the appearance of reality is more important
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Hope you'll forgive the delay and the hurriedness both. I'm just about to sign
off for the night (and morning) so I'll only be able to take a portion of a file
I have here and post it hoping you will be able to figure it out. It needs
another image file in the image map to work otherwise it should render
something.
I'll get back later about it if there's any questions but I think you'll
understand it.
Bob
"mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:389513FD.61B38A2F@gci.net...
| Can you cite me some examples of the image_pattern? It looks like what I
| need to use but I could learn allot from someone else's work.
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| Bob Hughes wrote:
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| > Should be able to use 'image_pattern' I would think. Then it's just a
matter of
| > finding the water/index association and using separate textures and applying
| > them over top of the original image map transparently. Maybe...
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| > Bob
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| > "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:3894E471.817EBF90@gci.net...
| > | The real problem for me is to get the highlighting on the "water"
| > | areas only. Any ideas? The whole thing is an isosurface with a nice
| > | pigment map from NASA to overlay the shape. The isosurface is defined by
| > | a grayscale image from NASA.
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| --
| Mr. Art
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| "Often the appearance of reality is more important
| than the reality of the appearance."
| Bill DeWitt 2000
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// Um, yeah... the pov script now:
#version unofficial MegaPov 0.4;
camera {location <3,3,-3> look_at 0}
light_source {<15,15,-15>,1}
sphere
{0,1 hollow
pigment
{
gradient y
color_map { [0.0 color rgb <.3,.65,.75>*.75] [1.0 color rgb
<.125,.35,.8>*.5] }
}
finish {ambient 1}
scale 50
}
plane
{
y, -1.5 hollow
material {
texture {
pigment {checker color rgb 1 color rgb 0 scale 1.25}
finish {ambient .25 diffuse 1}
}
interior {fade_distance 3 fade_power 2}
texture {
pigment {gradient z color_map {
[0,.125 color rgbt 1 color rgbt 1]
[.125,.25 color rgbt <0,0,0,1> color rgbt <0,0,0,.5>]
[.25,.75 color rgbt <0,0,0,.5> color rgbt 0]
} sine_wave scale <1,1,27>*2.5 translate 60*z}
}
rotate -2.5*x
clipped_by {box {-50,50}}
}
#declare IPa=
texture
{
image_pattern { tga "belinda.tga" use_alpha}
texture_map
{
[0 pigment {rgb <1,0,0>} ]
[.5 pigment {rgb <0,1,0>} ]
[1 pigment {rgb <0,0,1>} ]
} translate -.5 scale 1.5
} // pigment {rgb 1}
#declare IPb=
texture
{
image_pattern { tga "belinda.tga" use_alpha}
texture_map
{
[0 pigment {rgb <1,0,0>} ]
[.5 pigment {rgb <0,1,0>} ]
[1 pigment {rgb <0,0,1>} ]
} translate -.5 scale 1.5
} // pigment {rgb 1}
cone {-.75*y,1.5,.75*y,0
texture {
image_pattern { tga "belinda.tga" use_alpha}
texture_map {
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translate <1,0,1>
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object {
sphere { <-.5,0,0>, 1 texture {pigment {rgb .15}
finish {ambient .15 diffuse .7 phong .4 phong_size 234 specular .6 roughness
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0.4?
Nathan's web site says that 0.3 was released on 99/12/21, but makes no mention
of 0.4.
mr.art wrote:
> Just thought I would see what it could do
> to one of my favorite places.
> --
> Mr. Art
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> "Often the appearance of reality is more important
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> Bill DeWitt 2000
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
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> Nathan's web site says that 0.3 was released on 99/12/21, but makes no mention
> of 0.4.
Nathan is in the process of moving right now so his web site has not
been updated to reflect the change from v0.3 to v0.4. Additionaly
Nathan has run out of space on his web page for the windows executable
and will be offering it for download in the future from the povray.org
ftp server - ftp://ftp.povray.org/pub/povray/Unofficial/MegaPOV/
You can get the Windows version of MegaPov v0.4 at the above URL but
reference to it from Nathans home page will have to wait for him
to reach Florida and get an online connection established.
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Thanks for the link.
Silly question: if I were to move to Alaska tomorrow, my web "presence" wouldn't
change, and I'd be able to connect in a heartbeat because AOL and FreeAltavista are
nationwide. What gives?
Ken wrote:
> You can get the Windows version of MegaPov v0.4 at the above URL but
> reference to it from Nathans home page will have to wait for him
> to reach Florida and get an online connection established.
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> --
> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
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> change, and I'd be able to connect in a heartbeat because AOL and FreeAltavista are
> nationwide. What gives?
Only that Nathan is driving a car/truck right now and once in Florida
needs to move in, get settled, and take care of getting his computer
set up.
Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
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I've been using 3 layered image maps from
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/postgrad/thomasc1/render/planets/earth.htm
with good results.
sig.
"mr.art" wrote:
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> The real problem for me is to get the highlighting on the "water"
> areas only. Any ideas? The whole thing is an isosurface with a nice
> pigment map from NASA to overlay the shape. The isosurface is defined by
> a
> grayscale image from NASA.
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> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:3894D38A.F6F3E4D4@gci.net...
> > | Actually, I had never seen the earth with highlights,
> >
> > It does of course. Any elevation above ground from your standing height (or
> > lower?) to orbital height (and higher?) can show it. Look into your own heads
> > shadow at noon and you'll likely see it's brighter immediately around the shadow
> > edges, from an airplane shows it very well, and there are numerous Earth photos
> > which show it too. This particular image with the sunlight direction off-center
> > may be a different story though. Anyway I've never seen that much before, it
> > implies a lot of roughness, or *small-scale angular faceting, on the surface. I
> > want to try that type of highlighting myself now :-)
> >
> > *blinn microfacets?
> >
> > Bob
>
> --
> Mr. Art
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> "Often the appearance of reality is more important
> than the reality of the appearance."
> Bill DeWitt 2000
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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| > Silly question: if I were to move to Alaska tomorrow, my web "presence"
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| > change, and I'd be able to connect in a heartbeat because AOL and
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| > nationwide. What gives?
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| Only that Nathan is driving a car/truck right now and once in Florida
| needs to move in, get settled, and take care of getting his computer
| set up.
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| Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
It is, but I'd never want to do so when on the road. Well, maybe if stopped
over someplace a couple days. I treat any travel like a vacation, including
vacation from internet connecting.
For Outlook users: http://www.nmia.com/~jtech
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I'm posting an example of the 'image_pattern' at the p.t.s-f.
Look for "Land and Water: Differing Highlights" there.
Bob
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| Can you cite me some examples of the image_pattern? It looks like what I
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Bob Hughes wrote:
> "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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> | Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
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> It is, but I'd never want to do so when on the road. Well, maybe if stopped
> over someplace a couple days. I treat any travel like a vacation, including
> vacation from internet connecting.
Isn't it also quite expensive and insecure?
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"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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| Bob Hughes wrote:
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| > "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
| > news:389### [at] pacbellnet...
| > | Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
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| > It is, but I'd never want to do so when on the road. Well, maybe if stopped
| > over someplace a couple days. I treat any travel like a vacation, including
| > vacation from internet connecting.
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| Isn't it also quite expensive and insecure?
Oh, well I was just answering Kens question about something I don't know about.
Not the first time that's happened.
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Bob Hughes wrote:
> "David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> | Bob Hughes wrote:
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> | > "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> | > news:389### [at] pacbellnet...
> | > | Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
> | >
> | > It is, but I'd never want to do so when on the road. Well, maybe if stopped
> | > over someplace a couple days. I treat any travel like a vacation, including
> | > vacation from internet connecting.
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> | Isn't it also quite expensive and insecure?
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> Oh, well I was just answering Kens question about something I don't know about.
> Not the first time that's happened.
Happens to me all the time :-) (As you probably already knew)
But I agree it is good to treat a road trip like a vacation.
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When my family and I take our "road trip" this summer,
I will find it hard not to log on somewhere and see what
you all are up to. I don't see the internet as something
that you need to take a vacation from. You take a vacation
from the things that you have had enough of.
I plan to have the computers packed close to the outside
so I can get to them. When we move to Alaska, we had one
machine packed in the back of our Suburban and we set it
up every place that we stayed that had a phone jack. My
wife kept in touch with all of our friends that had an
interest in our trip. And though our list of interested
friends has shrunk some, our online family has grown.
Even my own biological family is getting into the
online thing and might want progress reports of the
trip.
David Fontaine wrote:
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> Bob Hughes wrote:
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> > "David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
> > news:3896209C.C01855F4@faricy.net...
> > | Bob Hughes wrote:
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> > | > "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> > | > news:389### [at] pacbellnet...
> > | > | Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
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> > | > It is, but I'd never want to do so when on the road. Well, maybe if stopped
> > | > over someplace a couple days. I treat any travel like a vacation, including
> > | > vacation from internet connecting.
> > |
> > | Isn't it also quite expensive and insecure?
> >
> > Oh, well I was just answering Kens question about something I don't know about.
> > Not the first time that's happened.
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> Happens to me all the time :-) (As you probably already knew)
> But I agree it is good to treat a road trip like a vacation.
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Hmm, well I love the idea of having a mobile POV-Ray to work with where ever I
may go, problem there is that I have yet to find an affordable (for me) notebook
computer with the power to do so. And that in turn always starts me thinking of
GPS mapping on the road or off. Guess I just don't think of the internet as
being something I want around 24/7 :-) POV-Ray yes, 'net no.
Bob
"mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message news:3896619D.6DE438B7@gci.net...
| When my family and I take our "road trip" this summer,
| I will find it hard not to log on somewhere and see what
| you all are up to. I don't see the internet as something
| that you need to take a vacation from. You take a vacation
| from the things that you have had enough of.
| I plan to have the computers packed close to the outside
| so I can get to them. When we move to Alaska, we had one
| machine packed in the back of our Suburban and we set it
| up every place that we stayed that had a phone jack. My
| wife kept in touch with all of our friends that had an
| interest in our trip. And though our list of interested
| friends has shrunk some, our online family has grown.
| Even my own biological family is getting into the
| online thing and might want progress reports of the
| trip.
|
| David Fontaine wrote:
| >
| > Bob Hughes wrote:
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| > > "David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
| > > news:3896209C.C01855F4@faricy.net...
| > > | Bob Hughes wrote:
| > > |
| > > | > "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
| > > | > news:389### [at] pacbellnet...
| > > | > | Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone
?
| > > | >
| > > | > It is, but I'd never want to do so when on the road. Well, maybe if
stopped
| > > | > over someplace a couple days. I treat any travel like a vacation,
including
| > > | > vacation from internet connecting.
| > > |
| > > | Isn't it also quite expensive and insecure?
| > >
| > > Oh, well I was just answering Kens question about something I don't know
about.
| > > Not the first time that's happened.
| >
| > Happens to me all the time :-) (As you probably already knew)
| > But I agree it is good to treat a road trip like a vacation.
| >
| > --
| > Homepage: http://www.faricy.net/~davidf/
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| > | \ |_ <dav### [at] faricynet>
| > |_/avid |ontaine <ICQ 55354965>
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| --
| Mr. Art
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| "Often the appearance of reality is more important
| than the reality of the appearance."
| Bill DeWitt 2000
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At times I wish I had a notebook computer. All mine are
just desktop or tower machines.
Bob Hughes wrote:
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> Hmm, well I love the idea of having a mobile POV-Ray to work with where ever I
> may go, problem there is that I have yet to find an affordable (for me) notebook
> computer with the power to do so. And that in turn always starts me thinking of
> GPS mapping on the road or off. Guess I just don't think of the internet as
> being something I want around 24/7 :-) POV-Ray yes, 'net no.
>
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Sounds neat...
Maybe we should set up a system...
Buy everyone cameras...
And request a video to go w/ text messages...
Sort of a virtual/visual mail group...
OK maybe not but it sound interesting all the same...
"mr.art" wrote:
> Sorry, my humor sensors have been giving false
> readings lately so I have stopped relying on
> them. From what I can tell, the works that we
> say make up about 7% of what we are trying to
> communicate. Body language, tone of voice, facial
> expression and such make up so much more. If we
> could see and hear what others are saying here,
> I think that there might be far less flaming done
> here. Well, then again, maybe not.
>
> David Fontaine wrote:
> >
> > Twas a joke.
> >
> > "mr.art" wrote:
> >
> > > Earth in general. Just a close up to see if the
> > > mountains really did cast shadows in the dawn
> > > terminator.
> > >
> > > David Fontaine wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just thought I would see what it could do
> > > > > to one of my favorite places.
> > > >
> > > > Your favorite place is the southwestern United States? :-)
> >
> > --
> > Homepage: http://www.faricy.net/~davidf/
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> --
> Mr. Art
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> "Often the appearance of reality is more important
> than the reality of the appearance."
> Bill DeWitt 2000
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> When my family and I take our "road trip" this summer,
> I will find it hard not to log on somewhere and see what
> you all are up to. I don't see the internet as something
> that you need to take a vacation from. You take a vacation
> from the things that you have had enough of.
> I plan to have the computers packed close to the outside
> so I can get to them. When we move to Alaska, we had one
> machine packed in the back of our Suburban and we set it
> up every place that we stayed that had a phone jack. My
> wife kept in touch with all of our friends that had an
> interest in our trip. And though our list of interested
> friends has shrunk some, our online family has grown.
> Even my own biological family is getting into the
> online thing and might want progress reports of the
> trip.
Well, I guess it depends. If you're on a "vacation", it would be nice to perhaps log
on
at the hotel in the evening. Length of trip and all that stuff too.
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Although I have a PC Camera and have been tempted to use it for live net
meetings or video email, that's as far as it goes. Only like the idea. I'm no
good at being "in person" and that would be awfully close to the same ;-)
Still, it's not totally out of the question either.
Bob
"ryan mooney" <rdm### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
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| Sounds neat...
| Maybe we should set up a system...
| Buy everyone cameras...
| And request a video to go w/ text messages...
| Sort of a virtual/visual mail group...
| OK maybe not but it sound interesting all the same...
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| "mr.art" wrote:
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| > Sorry, my humor sensors have been giving false
| > readings lately so I have stopped relying on
| > them. From what I can tell, the works that we
| > say make up about 7% of what we are trying to
| > communicate. Body language, tone of voice, facial
| > expression and such make up so much more. If we
| > could see and hear what others are saying here,
| > I think that there might be far less flaming done
| > here. Well, then again, maybe not.
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Maybe I should be more detailed. I have to move by August.
The Airforce is sending me to another base. As this will be
a forced move, I don't want to lose touch with friends.
David Fontaine wrote:
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> > When my family and I take our "road trip" this summer,
> > I will find it hard not to log on somewhere and see what
> > you all are up to. I don't see the internet as something
> > that you need to take a vacation from. You take a vacation
> > from the things that you have had enough of.
> > I plan to have the computers packed close to the outside
> > so I can get to them. When we move to Alaska, we had one
> > machine packed in the back of our Suburban and we set it
> > up every place that we stayed that had a phone jack. My
> > wife kept in touch with all of our friends that had an
> > interest in our trip. And though our list of interested
> > friends has shrunk some, our online family has grown.
> > Even my own biological family is getting into the
> > online thing and might want progress reports of the
> > trip.
>
> Well, I guess it depends. If you're on a "vacation", it would be nice to perhaps log
on
> at the hotel in the evening. Length of trip and all that stuff too.
>
> --
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"mr.art" wrote:
> Maybe I should be more detailed. I have to move by August.
> The Airforce is sending me to another base. As this will be
> a forced move, I don't want to lose touch with friends.
Maybe *I* should be more detailed :-)
If you're on vacation, go ahead, bring a laptop and log on.
If you're just moving, pack it all up and don't bother until you get there and get
situated.
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Okeleedoke. Thanks, and sorry for taking up the bandwidth. But when you talked about
his setting up a new web presence, I thought you were saying nathan.kopp.com would
have
to switch servers if Nathan the human physically moved, and this didn't make sense.
Ken wrote:
> "Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
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> > Thanks for the link.
> >
> > Silly question: if I were to move to Alaska tomorrow, my web "presence" wouldn't
> > change, and I'd be able to connect in a heartbeat because AOL and FreeAltavista
are
> > nationwide. What gives?
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> Only that Nathan is driving a car/truck right now and once in Florida
> needs to move in, get settled, and take care of getting his computer
> set up.
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> Is it possible to connect from a car with a laptop and a cell phone ?
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:57:18 -0900, mr.art <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:
>Sorry, my humor sensors have been giving false
>readings lately so I have stopped relying on
>them. From what I can tell, the works that we
>say make up about 7% of what we are trying to
>communicate. Body language, tone of voice, facial
>expression and such make up so much more. If we
>could see and hear what others are saying here,
>I think that there might be far less flaming done
>here. Well, then again, maybe not.
Maybe there'd be no one here at all.
There's only been three flame threads here to my
knowledge, and only one in this group. But I don't
read all the groups all the time, and there was that
'Most insulting email' thing that I've only seen
the odd post about over in p.g.
All in all I think we're a very sociable easy going
bunch.
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Steve email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
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