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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 15:58:12
Message: <388A1A28.F9B68F43@istar.ca>
Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
who can correctly identify the structure.

It's radiositied using the megapatch. Looks better than the plain image,
but I find the lighting a little bland.. uniformly lit in all unshadowed
areas. This is probably because the source of the radiosity is mostly
the sphere I'm using for the clouds... pretty uniform source.

Opinions?

Simon


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 16:49:52
Message: <388A235E.A71D089A@faricy.net>
Industrial? Water tower? Lighthouse?
Good construction modelling, any loops/macros used?

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From: David Heys
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 19:26:27
Message: <388A471A.AED46E3A@gci.net>
Simon de Vet wrote:

> Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
> who can correctly identify the structure.

Nice tower. Yea, I agree on the lighting. Guess? Looks like an oil refinery
tower used to heat crude oil and separate out the various chemicals, etc (ie,
kerosene, gasoline, etc..) as the crude gets hotter and rises towards the top.
Don't shoot me if I'm wrong about the process. <grin> Been a long, long time
since I learned about oil refineries. :{)

David
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frogs, and dragons and cats..."


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 19:43:18
Message: <388A4EB0.CED9786@gci.net>
That would be called a defraction tower. And I think that the process
is as you describe.

David Heys wrote:
> 
> Simon de Vet wrote:
> 
> > Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
> > who can correctly identify the structure.
> 
> Nice tower. Yea, I agree on the lighting. Guess? Looks like an oil refinery
> tower used to heat crude oil and separate out the various chemicals, etc (ie,
> kerosene, gasoline, etc..) as the crude gets hotter and rises towards the top.
> Don't shoot me if I'm wrong about the process. <grin> Been a long, long time
> since I learned about oil refineries. :{)
> 
> David
> --
> Keeper of the family pets.
> "You want fish? I got fish. I got fish, and eels, and turtles, and snails, and
> frogs, and dragons and cats..."

-- 
Mr. Art

"Often the appearance of reality is more important 
than the reality of the appearance."
Bill DeWitt 2000


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From: Noah A
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 19:51:12
Message: <388A50C3.69DEE69A@powersurfr.com>
one of chyrnoble's cooling stacks

Simon de Vet wrote:

> Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
> who can correctly identify the structure.
>
> It's radiositied using the megapatch. Looks better than the plain image,
> but I find the lighting a little bland.. uniformly lit in all unshadowed
> areas. This is probably because the source of the radiosity is mostly
> the sphere I'm using for the clouds... pretty uniform source.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Simon
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 20:02:19
Message: <chrishuff_99-DCC141.20025222012000@news.povray.org>
In article <388A471A.AED46E3A@gci.net>, David Heys <sou### [at] gcinet> 
wrote:

> Simon de Vet wrote:
> 
> > Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
> > who can correctly identify the structure.
> 
> Nice tower. Yea, I agree on the lighting. Guess? Looks like an oil 
> refinery
> tower used to heat crude oil and separate out the various chemicals, etc 
> (ie,
> kerosene, gasoline, etc..) as the crude gets hotter and rises towards the 
> top.
> Don't shoot me if I'm wrong about the process. <grin> Been a long, long 
> time
> since I learned about oil refineries. :{)

I couldn't remember the name, but Mr. Art's idea of "defraction tower" 
sounds about right. It is basically a big condensing still capable of 
fractional distillation in large quantities. But I think you got it 
backwards, as the crude rises(in vapor form) it cools and the lighter 
components condense out. Heavy oils and tars at the bottom, and lighter 
oils, gasoline, etc toward the top.

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From: Robert Chaffe
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 21:58:01
Message: <388a6e39@news.povray.org>
Telescope?


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From: Ryan Twitchell
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 22:34:48
Message: <388a76d8@news.povray.org>
The worlds largest candy cane under construction?

 Ryan Twitchell

sde### [at] istarca (Simon de Vet) wrote in <388A1A28.F9B68F43@istar.ca>:

>Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
>who can correctly identify the structure.
>


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From: David Heys
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 22:48:51
Message: <388A7689.89D9B47C@gci.net>
mr.art wrote:

> That would be called a defraction tower. And I think that the process
> is as you describe.

Actually, Chris was kind enough to explain how it works and his explanation makes
sense. Thanks for naming it for me though. <smile> It's interesting to see all the
little tidbits of information and trivia we all hold.

David
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From: David Heys
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 22:51:50
Message: <388A773C.4109CCC7@gci.net>
Chris Huff wrote:

> I couldn't remember the name, but Mr. Art's idea of "defraction tower"
> sounds about right. It is basically a big condensing still capable of
> fractional distillation in large quantities. But I think you got it
> backwards, as the crude rises(in vapor form) it cools and the lighter
> components condense out. Heavy oils and tars at the bottom, and lighter
> oils, gasoline, etc toward the top.

Ah! Now that makes sense. <smile> Thanks. It's cool dusting off the cobwebs of
old memories, facts, trivia.

David
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frogs, and dragons and cats..."


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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 23:48:32
Message: <388A886E.C1A9F954@istar.ca>
David Fontaine wrote:

> Industrial? Water tower? Lighthouse?
> Good construction modelling, any loops/macros used?

Nah.. just good old fashioned Moray. I'm still a modeler man, though I'd
like to learn more about coding, eventually...


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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 22 Jan 2000 23:49:30
Message: <388A88A9.46F1C593@istar.ca>
Noah A wrote:

> one of chyrnoble's cooling stacks

Ding ding! We have a winner!


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From: David Heys
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 23 Jan 2000 02:35:14
Message: <388AAB98.891D8B78@gci.net>
Simon de Vet wrote:

> Ding ding! We have a winner!

 Ahh well. :{)

David
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 23 Jan 2000 02:38:25
Message: <388AAF45.B5855B94@pacbell.net>
Simon de Vet wrote:
> 
> Noah A wrote:
> 
> > one of chyrnoble's cooling stacks
> 
> Ding ding! We have a winner!

That's cool !

<duck, run, cover>

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 23 Jan 2000 07:55:41
Message: <388afa4d@news.povray.org>
What I'd do is turn assumed_gamma upward (darker) to about 2.8 and adjust
radiosity brightness upward.  And maybe the sky could be of higher contrast,
whiter clouds, darker cloudless areas.  Not sure it would help.

Bob

"Simon de Vet" <sde### [at] istarca> wrote in message
news:388A1A28.F9B68F43@istar.ca...
| Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
| who can correctly identify the structure.
|
| It's radiositied using the megapatch. Looks better than the plain image,
| but I find the lighting a little bland.. uniformly lit in all unshadowed
| areas. This is probably because the source of the radiosity is mostly
| the sphere I'm using for the clouds... pretty uniform source.
|
| Opinions?
|
| Simon
|


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 23 Jan 2000 08:14:05
Message: <388AFDF1.12161EFD@pacbell.net>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> What I'd do is turn assumed_gamma upward (darker) to about 2.8 and adjust
> radiosity brightness upward.  And maybe the sky could be of higher contrast,
> whiter clouds, darker cloudless areas.  Not sure it would help.

It looks fine on my monitor, Bob. If it were any darker I wouldn't
be able to see it. Turn your brightness down.

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 23 Jan 2000 09:02:09
Message: <388b09e1@news.povray.org>
Yeah but with radiosity 'brightness' turned upward  a couple integers it would
be light enough again.  In MegaPOV anyway.   Oh and perhaps recursion downward 1
if it's already way up to begin with.

Bob

"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:388AFDF1.12161EFD@pacbell.net...
|
|
| Bob Hughes wrote:
| >
| > What I'd do is turn assumed_gamma upward (darker) to about 2.8 and adjust
| > radiosity brightness upward.  And maybe the sky could be of higher contrast,
| > whiter clouds, darker cloudless areas.  Not sure it would help.
|
| It looks fine on my monitor, Bob. If it were any darker I wouldn't
| be able to see it. Turn your brightness down.
|
| --
| Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
| http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 23 Jan 2000 09:49:43
Message: <388b1507@news.povray.org>
Looks like a light-house to me? No picky feelings here - I like realistic, but not the
pain in the neck looking up at it ;-)

Alf

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Simon de Vet <sde### [at] istarca> wrote in message news:388A1A28.F9B68F43@istar.ca...
> Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
> who can correctly identify the structure.


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From: Noah A
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 24 Jan 2000 01:45:14
Message: <388BF53C.F47F91AC@powersurfr.com>
i am a god!

Noah A wrote:

> one of chyrnoble's cooling stacks
>
> Simon de Vet wrote:
>
> > Just a little part of a scene I'm working on. 6.02e+23 points to anyone
> > who can correctly identify the structure.
> >
> > It's radiositied using the megapatch. Looks better than the plain image,
> > but I find the lighting a little bland.. uniformly lit in all unshadowed
> > areas. This is probably because the source of the radiosity is mostly
> > the sphere I'm using for the clouds... pretty uniform source.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  [Image]


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 24 Jan 2000 01:47:17
Message: <388BF4C3.2BE966CD@pacbell.net>
Noah A wrote:
> 
> i am a god!

But only a lesser god. A greater god would have capitalized the word
"God" when referring to himself.

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 24 Jan 2000 12:58:41
Message: <XYeMON9ZIFyLfJiy1OHFNCr+fbDA@4ax.com>
On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:44:19 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>
>
>Noah A wrote:
>> 
>> i am a god!
>
>But only a lesser god. A greater god would have capitalized the word
>"God" when referring to himself.

Unless his shift and caps lock keys are busted from 3D gaming. Or have
you not noticed that Noah never capitalizes?


Peter Popov
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 24 Jan 2000 13:14:58
Message: <388C95DD.A5F5E537@pacbell.net>
Peter Popov wrote:

> Unless his shift and caps lock keys are busted from 3D gaming. Or have
> you not noticed that Noah never capitalizes?

He'll never be able to capitalize on being a god until he learns how
to capitalize the word God.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 24 Jan 2000 17:09:02
Message: <388CCAD6.1C2B502C@faricy.net>
> He'll never be able to capitalize on being a god until he learns how
> to capitalize the word God.

I love lame puns!
<sheep-eye dissection lab>
"All eyes up front!"
"I'll keep my eye out."
"I'm gonna keep an eye on you."
"All eyes on (insert name of student)!"
"You can be my eyes."
</sheep-eye dissection lab>

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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Tower
Date: 24 Jan 2000 21:15:26
Message: <vm1q8s02o95gkln69vmgg72ho8mh0gvpfo@4ax.com>
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:11:41 -0800 Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>He'll never be able to capitalize on being a god until he learns how
>to capitalize the word God.

  "I didn't say I was THE God." - Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day".

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