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No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
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Ken wrote:
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> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
>
*lol*
Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
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And the devil in black dress watches over
My guardian angel walks away
Life is short and love is always over in the morning
Black wind come carry me far away
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I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
The colors match up with the painting well it seems. If it isn't TGA
Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
isosurfaces...).
Bob
"Spider" <spi### [at] bahnhof se> wrote in message
news:3881550D.C3E32F67@bahnhof.se...
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> > pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
> >
> *lol*
> Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I
kinda
> want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
>
>
> --
> file://Spider -- [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
> And the devil in black dress watches over
> My guardian angel walks away
> Life is short and love is always over in the morning
> Black wind come carry me far away
> --"Sisters of Mercy" -- "Temple Of Love"
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omniVERSE wrote:
>
> I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
> http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
>
> The colors match up with the painting well it seems. If it isn't TGA
> Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
> isosurfaces...).
Nope. You nailed it Bob.
Spider,
This is a Win app only with no source available at it's home page. You can
try contacting Andy Woodfin directly to see if he will share it with you.
You can mention my name, it might help. I was one of his beta testers.
adw### [at] unccedu
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Ken wrote:
> omniVERSE wrote:
> >
> > I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
> > http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
> >
> > The colors match up with the painting well it seems. If it isn't TGA
> > Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
> > isosurfaces...).
>
> Nope. You nailed it Bob.
>
> Spider,
>
> This is a Win app only with no source available at it's home page. You can
> try contacting Andy Woodfin directly to see if he will share it with you.
> You can mention my name, it might help. I was one of his beta testers.
>
> adw### [at] unccedu
>
I'm doing that as we speak. I realized that this is the kind of thing that is very
well suited to doing under Java. Since I've done lots of TGA conversions utilities in
the past, this should be quite easy. I'll see if he wants to collaborate. If he's too
busy or whatnot, I'll go ahead and do a Java version so that more people can enjoy
this sort of thing.
--
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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
> I'm doing that as we speak. I realized that this is the kind of thing that is very
> well suited to doing under Java. Since I've done lots of TGA conversions utilities
in
> the past, this should be quite easy. I'll see if he wants to collaborate. If he's
too
> busy or whatnot, I'll go ahead and do a Java version so that more people can enjoy
> this sort of thing.
Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
patch this directly into Pov itself...
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Ears perk up.
Bob
"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
> Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
> patch this directly into Pov itself...
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:20:13 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
>Ken wrote:
>>
>> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
>> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
>>
>*lol*
>Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
>want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
This can also be done with TGADOT. It's an older utility program
available from the povray server. It's written in C, and I've
personally re-compiled it myself for WIN95 command line use. I also
added a few enhancements while I was at it. I haven't asked the
original author about making my version public, but perhaps I should.
His version uses an older povray syntax that needs to be updated.
I had no trouble re-compiling this for WIN95, and I doubt that it
would be any problem for LINUX or most any other OS.
Later,
Glen Berry
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omniVERSE wrote:
> Ears perk up.
>
> Bob
>
> "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38817636.95721485@pacbell.net...
> >
> > Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
> > patch this directly into Pov itself...
No no nonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Fight the bloat! Fight the bloat!
--
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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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Glen Berry wrote:
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:20:13 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
>
> >Ken wrote:
> >>
> >> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> >> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
> >>
> >*lol*
> >Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
> >want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
>
> This can also be done with TGADOT. It's an older utility program
> available from the povray server. It's written in C, and I've
> personally re-compiled it myself for WIN95 command line use. I also
> added a few enhancements while I was at it. I haven't asked the
> original author about making my version public, but perhaps I should.
> His version uses an older povray syntax that needs to be updated.
>
> I had no trouble re-compiling this for WIN95, and I doubt that it
> would be any problem for LINUX or most any other OS.
>
> Later,
> Glen Berry
Unless you have made signifigant improvements TgaMosaic is a far
superior product. TGADOT had the terrible habit of conveting
each pixel of the image into an object which created extremely
large file sizes. TgaMosaic has options for averaging the pixels
to reduce object count plus it allows for different object types,
user definable rotations, a built in clock variable for animating
the image, plus other nifty inhancements. I'm not knocking TGADOT
mind you but without some serious work it's limitations make
TgaMosaic a much better choice for modern POV-Ray users.
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"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
> No no nonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
> Fight the bloat! Fight the bloat!
You want to see bloat you should see the file sizes this type of
utility produces even with small images for the input file.
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> > I haven't asked the original author about making my version public,
P.S. I have tried contacting the original author of TGADOT and was
not successful in finding an active email address for him.
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:27:24 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>Unless you have made signifigant improvements TgaMosaic is a far
>superior product. TGADOT had the terrible habit of conveting
>each pixel of the image into an object which created extremely
>large file sizes. TgaMosaic has options for averaging the pixels
>to reduce object count plus it allows for different object types,
>user definable rotations, a built in clock variable for animating
>the image, plus other nifty inhancements. I'm not knocking TGADOT
>mind you but without some serious work it's limitations make
>TgaMosaic a much better choice for modern POV-Ray users.
True, the original TGADOT doesn't have the ability to average pixels
to reduce object count, doesn't have the built-in clock variable, or
rotations, but the source code is readily available for anyone who
wants to port it or add enhancements. I was under the impression that
TgaMosaic wasn't availablie in source code. Am I mistaken?
Later,
Glen Berry
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Ken wrote:
>
> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing
> Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
> http://www.povray.org/links/
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]
It's a fine way to emulate a low resolution in a high resolution pic :)
Remco
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In article <38817636.95721485@pacbell.net>, lin### [at] povrayorg
wrote:
> Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
> patch this directly into Pov itself...
I have done something very similar to this using my eval_pigment()
patch. Just call the eval_pigment() using the center location of each
sphere and a pigment which uses an image_map, and use the returned color
in a solid pigment for each sphere. The results would be the same as
this. Plus, you can use any pigment, not just an image_map, and every
file format POV supports is supported(not just TGA).
It also can use the interpolation built in to image_map...
And it isn't bloat, it is a useful feature which only took a small
amount of code to implement.(although I think it currently only returns
the rgb values, I haven't modified it to return f and t yet)
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Is the 'eval_pigment' going to get into MegaPOV someday?
Bob
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In article <3881d84e@news.povray.org>, "omniVERSE" <inv### [at] aolcom>
wrote:
> Is the 'eval_pigment' going to get into MegaPOV someday?
Probably. I really don't know, and the people in charge of MegaPOV might
want to wait until it works with filter and transmit. I will try to get
to work on that...
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Ken wrote:
>
> omniVERSE wrote:
> >
> > I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
> > http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
> >
> > The colors match up with the painting well it seems. If it isn't TGA
> > Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
> > isosurfaces...).
>
> Nope. You nailed it Bob.
>
> Spider,
>
> This is a Win app only with no source available at it's home page. You can
> try contacting Andy Woodfin directly to see if he will share it with you.
> You can mention my name, it might help. I was one of his beta testers.
>
Thanks. I recalled the images from some time ago when he released it. Some quite
nice things then. Well. Thanks and cyas :)
--
//Spider -- [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
And the devil in black dress watches over
My guardian angel walks away
Life is short and love is always over in the morning
Black wind come carry me far away
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Kind of like an add-on for the trace function?
Ken wrote:
> "Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
>
> > I'm doing that as we speak. I realized that this is the kind of thing that is very
> > well suited to doing under Java. Since I've done lots of TGA conversions utilities
in
> > the past, this should be quite easy. I'll see if he wants to collaborate. If he's
too
> > busy or whatnot, I'll go ahead and do a Java version so that more people can enjoy
> > this sort of thing.
>
> Since Pov can read tga's directly I wonder how difficult it would be to
> patch this directly into Pov itself...
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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Ken
I am curious about this image. At first I thought
it was a dyslexic stereogram:)
I wonder why you mirrored Mona,
for aesthetic or technical reasons.
Thanks for pointing out the benefits of TgaMosaic. I've
been using TGADOT.
Peter Warren
war### [at] hotmailcom
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Peter Warren wrote:
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> Ken
>
> I am curious about this image. At first I thought
> it was a dyslexic stereogram:)
> I wonder why you mirrored Mona,
> for aesthetic or technical reasons.
The aspect of the "Mona" object was such that it was taller than it was
wide, leaving black space on each side of the image. To fill the screen
I decided to mirror the "Mona" object. I posted this mainly as a practical
joke in response to the image map thread in off-topic :)
> Thanks for pointing out the benefits of TgaMosaic. I've
> been using TGADOT.
My pleasure sir.
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Ken wrote in message <3882E400.657D39EA@pacbell.net>...
>I decided to mirror the "Mona" object. I posted this mainly as a practical
>joke in response to the image map thread in off-topic :)
Yea, I noticed that just before I posted, but still thought it
was interesting (to me at least).
Wow, you *are* fast.
Peter
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Spider wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> > pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
> >
> *lol*
> Nicers nicers.. Got the source for that util, or the ling or something? I kinda
> want a linux copy of it (if there is one avaiable :)
I've got a basic version working in Java now, so you can use it on Linux.
Anyone interested?
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
> I've got a basic version working in Java now, so you can use it on Linux.
Did you get a hold of Andy on this or is it your own creation ?
> Anyone interested?
Even if the people here are not interested if you put it up on a web page
I am sure that I can promote it through the povray.org links pages.
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Ken wrote:
> "Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
>
> > I've got a basic version working in Java now, so you can use it on Linux.
>
> Did you get a hold of Andy on this or is it your own creation ?
>
> > Anyone interested?
>
> Even if the people here are not interested if you put it up on a web page
> I am sure that I can promote it through the povray.org links pages.
I've started talking with Andy, but the basic stuff I just did was my own for
now. Mainly reading the Targa file. I'll probably have it support other input
formats also. I'll probably get a page going in the next few days.
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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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Very pretty Ken. Nice to see my utility used for the forces of good.
Glowing with pride,
Andy
Ken wrote:
> No image maps were used in the creation of this image. Individualy
> pigmented spheres yes, image maps no !
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]
--
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Try my utility TGAMosaic, go to http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi
"Guns don't kill people.. the government does" - Dale Gribble
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Thanks, Spider.
Andy
Spider wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > omniVERSE wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it must be the TGA Mosaic utility:
> > > http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi/tga.html
> > >
> > > The colors match up with the painting well it seems. If it isn't TGA
> > > Mosaic-made then I don't know how it could've been done (isosurface? it's always
> > > isosurfaces...).
> >
> > Nope. You nailed it Bob.
> >
> > Spider,
> >
> > This is a Win app only with no source available at it's home page. You can
> > try contacting Andy Woodfin directly to see if he will share it with you.
> > You can mention my name, it might help. I was one of his beta testers.
> >
> Thanks. I recalled the images from some time ago when he released it. Some quite
> nice things then. Well. Thanks and cyas :)
>
> --
> //Spider -- [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
> And the devil in black dress watches over
> My guardian angel walks away
> Life is short and love is always over in the morning
> Black wind come carry me far away
> --"Sisters of Mercy" -- "Temple Of Love"
--
----------------
Andy Woodfin
Try my utility TGAMosaic, go to http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi
"Guns don't kill people.. the government does" - Dale Gribble
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You weren't mistaken until now. Jon Cruz talked me into GPL'ing the code
and I sent him a copy, so I'll post it to my web page in the zipped
package with the new version update. Anyone who wants it, come get some.
I'm interested to see what happens to it.
Glen Berry wrote:
>
> .... but the source code is readily available for anyone who
> wants to port it or add enhancements. I was under the impression that
> TgaMosaic wasn't availablie in source code. Am I mistaken?
>
> Later,
> Glen Berry
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Try my utility TGAMosaic, go to http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi
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Speaking of that clock variable, Ken, I'd like to see any animations that anyone might
have yielded with TGAMosaic. I have had some problems in the past with the tiny
tesserae disappearing from frame to frame when I create mpg's using CMPEG. If I make
full blown big avi's though, the effect is pretty fun, if I say so myself.
Andy
Ken wrote:
> ....
> Unless you have made signifigant improvements TgaMosaic is a far
> superior product. TGADOT had the terrible habit of conveting
> each pixel of the image into an object which created extremely
> large file sizes. TgaMosaic has options for averaging the pixels
> to reduce object count plus it allows for different object types,
> user definable rotations, a built in clock variable for animating
> the image, plus other nifty inhancements. I'm not knocking TGADOT
> mind you but without some serious work it's limitations make
> TgaMosaic a much better choice for modern POV-Ray users.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
--
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Andy Woodfin
Try my utility TGAMosaic, go to http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~adwoodfi
"Guns don't kill people.. the government does" - Dale Gribble
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Andy Woodfin wrote:
>
> Speaking of that clock variable, Ken, I'd like to see any animations that anyone
might
> have yielded with TGAMosaic. I have had some problems in the past with the tiny
> tesserae disappearing from frame to frame when I create mpg's using CMPEG. If I make
> full blown big avi's though, the effect is pretty fun, if I say so myself.
>
> Andy
I really haven't played with it at all. It might be interesting to see what
happens to Mona in an animation. It I get anywhere with it I will let you
know.
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>I've got a basic version working in Java now, so you can use it on Linux.
>
>Anyone interested?
Yes.
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Steve email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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Steve wrote:
> >I've got a basic version working in Java now, so you can use it on Linux.
> >
> >Anyone interested?
>
> Yes.
>
Look for it very soon (i.e. the end of this week). I just need to add some
command-line parsing so you can feed it different paramerters.
I also told Andy I'd volunteer to be the maintainer if he wanted to GPL his
program. Since that discussion, he has, so we can all benefit from his work.
I'll probably have an intro page up later today.
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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