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Hi everyone, well this is one of the very few posts I've made to here with
an actual image of mine!
I made this image last year when I was leaving my home to find a new place
to live, but the image isn't about that, it's about a friend of mine.
Anyway, Simen commented on the image in p.o-t and so since I'd never shared
it here before, I thought I might as well do it now.
Hope you like it.
Lance.
http://come.to/the.zone
http://listen.to/colorblind
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Lance Birch wrote:
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> Hi everyone, well this is one of the very few posts I've made to here with
> an actual image of mine!
>
> I made this image last year when I was leaving my home to find a new place
> to live, but the image isn't about that, it's about a friend of mine.
>
> Anyway, Simen commented on the image in p.o-t and so since I'd never shared
> it here before, I thought I might as well do it now.
>
> Hope you like it.
Reminds me of a nursery rhyme - Ring around the rosie...
--
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote in message
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> Reminds me of a nursery rhyme - Ring around the rosie...
Not quite what I had in mind at the time.
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Lance Birch wrote:
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> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38007426.94701F82@pacbell.net...
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> > Reminds me of a nursery rhyme - Ring around the rosie...
>
> Not quite what I had in mind at the time.
Surely you can see where one might think such a thing when viewing this
image. If you want a serious critique I could be persuaded to provide one.
--
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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Lance Birch wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, well this is one of the very few posts I've made to here with
> an actual image of mine!
>
> I made this image last year when I was leaving my home to find a new place
> to live, but the image isn't about that, it's about a friend of mine.
>
> Anyway, Simen commented on the image in p.o-t and so since I'd never shared
> it here before, I thought I might as well do it now.
>
> Hope you like it.
>
> Lance.
> http://come.to/the.zone
> http://listen.to/colorblind
>
> [Image]
Although I don't know what this means exactly I think I can see which way it
goes. I like it very much for that.
Remco
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> > news:38007426.94701F82@pacbell.net...
> > >
> > > Reminds me of a nursery rhyme - Ring around the rosie...
> >
> > Not quite what I had in mind at the time.
>
> Surely you can see where one might think such a thing when viewing this
> image. If you want a serious critique I could be persuaded to provide one.
Thanks that would be nice :) And yes I can see what you mean.
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>Hope you like it.
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As I said, I do. ;)
One could discuss the symbolics, of course. First of all, you are using two
objects that concider cliché: The rose and the ring. But combined, thay can
express more.
Love (friendship?), trapped in endless chains (locks?) of something hard to
beat through. The background suggest to different worlds (ways of thinking?
ways of living? different countries? parents?), and the rose lies (trapped?)
between the two worlds. I think the backgrounds suggests some similarity to
the two opposites, as they are only different in colors; the cloudy pattern
is very much the same.
What impress me most, perhaps, is the choice of colors. The rose's color
looks *good*, and the background is vivid and pretty, without being colors
you see all the time in ray-traced images. And then there is simplicity. Not
too little, not too much in the image. Only what is needed. It is easy to
uin an image like this (with a lens-flare, mass-reflections, extra
objects...). I think this is a general problem with ray-tracing artists:
They are afraid of what "colleagues" maight say if it is no actual
*technical* achievement. Those rings, for axample, can be done in four or
five lines of code; do does the background. Many could say: "I could have
done better than that!" Could they?
Simen.
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Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote in message
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> Although I don't know what this means exactly I think I can see which way
it
> goes. I like it very much for that.
>
> Remco
Art is about finding your own meaning anyway I guess :)
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Lance Birch wrote:
> Thanks that would be nice :)
Read Simen's reply. It worked for me :)
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Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
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Lance Birch wrote:
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> Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote in message
> news:380078D0.C31A8B2F@xs4all.nl...
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> > Although I don't know what this means exactly I think I can see which way
> it
> > goes. I like it very much for that.
> >
> > Remco
>
> Art is about finding your own meaning anyway I guess :)
Or it involves communicating about a meaning?
BTW: great critique by Simen, I totally agree 8)
Remco
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Simen Kvaal <sim### [at] studentmatnatuiono> wrote in message
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> >Hope you like it.
> >
> As I said, I do. ;)
>
> One could discuss the symbolics, of course. First of all, you are using
two
> objects that concider cliché: The rose and the ring. But combined, thay
can
> express more.
>
> Love (friendship?), trapped in endless chains (locks?) of something hard
to
> beat through. The background suggest to different worlds (ways of
thinking?
> ways of living? different countries? parents?), and the rose lies
(trapped?)
> between the two worlds. I think the backgrounds suggests some similarity
to
> the two opposites, as they are only different in colors; the cloudy
pattern
> is very much the same.
>
> What impress me most, perhaps, is the choice of colors. The rose's color
> looks *good*, and the background is vivid and pretty, without being colors
> you see all the time in ray-traced images. And then there is simplicity.
Not
> too little, not too much in the image. Only what is needed. It is easy to
> uin an image like this (with a lens-flare, mass-reflections, extra
> objects...). I think this is a general problem with ray-tracing artists:
> They are afraid of what "colleagues" maight say if it is no actual
> *technical* achievement. Those rings, for axample, can be done in four or
> five lines of code; do does the background. Many could say: "I could have
> done better than that!" Could they?
>
> Simen.
Thank you Simen, I really enjoyed reading that reply :) I think that is one
of the first times someone has said something that nice about one of my
images :)
Out of all of my images created with POV-Ray, this is the one that I love
the most, and it was also the last image that I ever made with POV-Ray.
There are lots of reasons, the personal symbolism is one of the foremost,
and the colours appeal to me greatly, especially those of the background.
A lot of the things that you have listed are amoung the true meaning of the
image. Two ways of living, two ways of thinking, "trapped" by
something/someone/views/society, two complete worlds, a new life/an old
life. Extirpate/Inception.
From this image I learnt a lot about life in the process of making it.
Thank you.
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Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote in message
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> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote in message
> > news:380078D0.C31A8B2F@xs4all.nl...
> > >
> > > Although I don't know what this means exactly I think I can see which
way
> > it
> > > goes. I like it very much for that.
> > >
> > > Remco
> >
> > Art is about finding your own meaning anyway I guess :)
>
> Or it involves communicating about a meaning?
>
> BTW: great critique by Simen, I totally agree 8)
>
> Remco
Very true as well, that's what I tried to do in my Poetry... (also on my
website, Other -> The Orange Room)
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On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:41:30 +1000, "Lance Birch"
<lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
>Hi everyone, well this is one of the very few posts I've made to here with
>an actual image of mine!
>
>I made this image last year when I was leaving my home to find a new place
>to live, but the image isn't about that, it's about a friend of mine.
>
>Anyway, Simen commented on the image in p.o-t and so since I'd never shared
>it here before, I thought I might as well do it now.
>
>Hope you like it.
>
>Lance.
>http://come.to/the.zone
>http://listen.to/colorblind
Lance,
I really like the image, although what I relate it to is neither what
you had in mind nor is it a good memory. Still, I really like it. The
colors of the background seem to be your favourite because U-th, The
Zone (the new one as well) and Zenith Design all use them extensively,
as do most of the pics that you sent me and, not surprisingly, the 3D
Studio MAX R2.5 box :)
Is there a poem associated with this image?
Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700
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>Out of all of my images created with POV-Ray, this is the one that I love
>the most, and it was also the last image that I ever made with POV-Ray.
Your *last* image? Have you quit? Converted to max? COMPLETELY!?
>
>From this image I learnt a lot about life in the process of making it.
>
And that's why some people are artists and love what they do! I see it
somethink like writing a diary. When you create the model, you have to think
about *what* you actually want to say with it, and so you have to think
about your own feelings, opinions and so on. And when you're finished, you
most probably know more about yourself and your friends!
I find it difficult to be a digital artists; I am more a musician. But when
it comes to writing songs, I think it is very much the same: I often learn a
lot when I'm being creative.
Simen.
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Lance Birch a écrit dans le message <38006d79@news.povray.org>...
>Hi everyone, well this is one of the very few posts I've made to here with
>an actual image of mine!
>
>I made this image last year when I was leaving my home to find a new place
>to live, but the image isn't about that, it's about a friend of mine.
>
>Anyway, Simen commented on the image in p.o-t and so since I'd never shared
>it here before, I thought I might as well do it now.
>
>Hope you like it.
>
>Lance.
>http://come.to/the.zone
>http://listen.to/colorblind
>
Sure I do !!!... Reminds me good things... and others :(
Your image is just too simple : I CAN'T do that... I'm not an artist... YOU are...
FD
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Peter Popov <pet### [at] usanet> wrote in message
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> Lance,
>
> I really like the image, although what I relate it to is neither what
> you had in mind nor is it a good memory. Still, I really like it. The
> colors of the background seem to be your favourite because U-th, The
> Zone (the new one as well) and Zenith Design all use them extensively,
> as do most of the pics that you sent me and, not surprisingly, the 3D
> Studio MAX R2.5 box :)
>
> Is there a poem associated with this image?
Ah yes, my favourite colours of all are the deep and grey blues and cyans,
and the bright oranges and reds. I just like them :) By the way, for
anyone interested, The Zone is now updated on a daily basis in the "Garbage"
section. Also, for anyone else interested, the MAX 3.0 box looks kewl, but
I don't yet own it.
One of the poems is associated to it, but I think that my views on the image
have changed now a bit and I don't think the poem represents it well enough
any more, so I won't tell you which one it is :)
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> Your *last* image? Have you quit? Converted to max? COMPLETELY!?
Yes, I feel for now I have, I might go back one day to try out some new
features but I think that my POV-Ray years, at least for creating artistic
images, are over :(
> And that's why some people are artists and love what they do! I see it
> somethink like writing a diary. When you create the model, you have to
think
> about *what* you actually want to say with it, and so you have to think
> about your own feelings, opinions and so on. And when you're finished, you
> most probably know more about yourself and your friends!
>
> I find it difficult to be a digital artists; I am more a musician. But
when
> it comes to writing songs, I think it is very much the same: I often learn
a
> lot when I'm being creative.
>
> Simen.
Yes, I think that I at least try to create a certain mood or feeling in my
images, particularly the "VS - Violent Society" series that was a 30 second
animation that I did. I think that I learn a lot about myself when I create
the images, and maybe that's why I do it.
By the way, do you have a website Simen?
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Lance
Thanks, this is beautiful. I'll be looking at this for ages.
Lance Birch wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, well this is one of the very few posts I've made to here with
> an actual image of mine!
>
> I made this image last year when I was leaving my home to find a new place
> to live, but the image isn't about that, it's about a friend of mine.
>
> Anyway, Simen commented on the image in p.o-t and so since I'd never shared
> it here before, I thought I might as well do it now.
>
> Hope you like it.
>
> Lance.
> http://come.to/the.zone
> http://listen.to/colorblind
>
> [Image]
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Cheers
Steve email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjeln/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
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Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
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> Lance
>
> Thanks, this is beautiful. I'll be looking at this for ages.
Thank you, you don't know how much that means to me :)
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>By the way, do you have a website Simen?
>
>
Not really. My only website is in Norwegian, which also have no graphics
stuff yet. I am working on a new one, and I'll let you know, of course. It
will reside at http://www.uio.no/~simenkv, but there is not much there
yet...
Thanks for asking! :)
Simen.
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