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Hi all,
Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small Heightfields,
in Moray.
It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly as
long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray and
spindle thingy) as it did to render.
It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working on,
but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise i
am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
Rick
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Sorry to reply to my own post!, I just noticed that it dosn't like JPEG
compression, even tho i only used 15%. If anyone would like a 800x600 BMP or
other lossles format, please email me and i will send you a copy!
Rick
Rick (Kitty5) <kit### [at] dial pipexcom> wrote in message
news:37303136.0@news.povray.org...
> Hi all,
> Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small
Heightfields,
> in Moray.
> It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly
as
> long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray
and
> spindle thingy) as it did to render.
>
> It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
> clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
>
> Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working
on,
> but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise
i
> am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
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I think it looks superb anyway!
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Rick (Kitty5) wrote in message <3730342e.0@news.povray.org>...
>Sorry to reply to my own post!, I just noticed that it dosn't like JPEG
>compression, even tho i only used 15%. If anyone would like a 800x600 BMP
or
>other lossles format, please email me and i will send you a copy!
>
>Rick
>
>Rick (Kitty5) <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in message
>news:37303136.0@news.povray.org...
>> Hi all,
>> Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small
>Heightfields,
>> in Moray.
>> It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly
>as
>> long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray
>and
>> spindle thingy) as it did to render.
>>
>> It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
>> clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
>>
>> Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working
>on,
>> but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise
>i
>> am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly
as
>long to model all the seperate componant parts
Does anyone use any other approach for "reality" objects ?
Paolo
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Hi Rick,
Great detail. It just needs the cover insert of a good game sitting
next to it to make it complete (the CD being in the computer just out of
the image of course :-).
Mike Andrews.
"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small Heightfields,
> in Moray.
> It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly as
> long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray and
> spindle thingy) as it did to render.
>
> It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
> clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
>
> Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working on,
> but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise i
> am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>
> Rick
>
> [Image]
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Yep, I take photos sometimes from right/left, top and front views and then
use them as references maps. Either that or I do a hand sketch of the
object I want to make in 3D for the right, front and work from there...
mostly for accuracy (or basically anything non-organic) I'll use pure
measurements...
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---
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For a totally different experience, visit my Chroma Key Website:
Colorblind - http://listen.to/colorblind
Paolo Bormida wrote in message <37303b0a.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>>It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly
>as
>>long to model all the seperate componant parts
>
>Does anyone use any other approach for "reality" objects ?
>
>Paolo
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Rick (Kitty5) wrote in message <37303136.0@news.povray.org>...
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>Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working on,
>but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise i
>am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>
>Rick
>
>
That is very nice. I really dig the little reflections on the upper right
corner of the clear plastic.
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This is really superb work, and I very impressed.
I think this is one that should most definitely be posted to the POV objects
library, if you are willing to make the code public.
You may consider adding box objects for the CD cover inserts before you
release it however.
If you don't wish to release it, that is your right or course, but I think
it could be used by many people, in many different desk scenes, if you did.
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"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
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> Sorry to reply to my own post!, I just noticed that it dosn't like JPEG
> compression, even tho i only used 15%. If anyone would like a 800x600 BMP or
> other lossles format, please email me and i will send you a copy!
In fact, JPEG make problems with pure red/green/blue colors; solutions
could be :
- use more "broken" colors
- use a conversion software that allows you to choose a 1-1-1 sampling
About the image, the model in incredibly clever ! I easily imagine that
many
hours of work are needed ! It would be a good idea to put it in the
"pov objects
collection"...
Fabien.
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Rick (Kitty5) wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small Heightfields,
> in Moray.
> It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly as
> long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray and
> spindle thingy) as it did to render.
>
> It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
> clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
>
> Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working on,
> but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise i
> am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>
> Rick
>
> [Image]
I don't like the repeating patterns in the wood texture you used.
Sorry ! Someone had to have a negative comment for this and it might
as well fall on me this time. It is of course a great job of modelling
on the CD case and one wonders at the effort you expended at recreating
a 2 cent injection molded plastic housing. I guess the next logical step
will be VCR cassettes and then... Just kidding :)
A job well done.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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>a 2 cent injection molded plastic housing. I guess the next logical step
>will be VCR cassettes and then... Just kidding :)
Hey! What's wrong with that? It's my next project after I get my stupid GD
parameter driven pencil model done ;)
Seriously, high quality models of background elements like this are
wonderful - they can really add to a scene. Of course, it takes a major
effort to render them, but they can't be beat if you want your image 'just
right'
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Good work. Slightly less light?
Cheers
Steve
Rick (Kitty5) wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small Heightfields,
> in Moray.
> It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly as
> long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray and
> spindle thingy) as it did to render.
>
> It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
> clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
>
> Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working on,
> but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise i
> am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>
> Rick
>
> [Image]
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whee... well, details it is... much and good. What's next? A cd-rom with the
actual small holes csg'd into it?? (*chuckle*)
"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Here' s my latest image, its created from 99% CSG with 2 small Heightfields,
> in Moray.
> It is modeled from carefull measurments of the real thing and took nearly as
> long to model all the seperate componant parts (Lid, Lower Case, CD-Tray and
> spindle thingy) as it did to render.
>
> It took over 4 Days to render in total on a AMD K6 233 due to the complex
> clear plastic / glass edges on the lid.
>
> Its intended to be part of a larger and more complex scene i am working on,
> but i think i may have to reduce to level of detail on the lid, otherwise i
> am not going to see my PC again for weeks!
>
> Rick
>
> [Image]
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The model will be available from the POV! site when it goes online, at 2
detail levels depending on how long you are prepared to wait for a render.
in both Moray and POV format.
there will also be a CD-ROM to go with the case, that can be easily textured
with your own images, oh and some books , and ermm, I will be doing a big
scene very soon, you'll see!
Rick
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Very nice. And nice of you to offer it to the masses. All I have is a poor
example of a CD to go in it so yours will probably be better.
"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
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> The model will be available from the POV! site when it goes online, at 2
> detail levels depending on how long you are prepared to wait for a render.
> in both Moray and POV format.
>
> there will also be a CD-ROM to go with the case, that can be easily textured
> with your own images, oh and some books , and ermm, I will be doing a big
> scene very soon, you'll see!
>
> Rick
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That lid looks great.
Do you really have a green CD jewel case?
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...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
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On Wed, 5 May 1999 12:50:36 +0100, "Rick (Kitty5)"
<kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote:
My compliments on your modelling and texturing skills! Now put your
RadHat Linux 5.2 CDs in there, too! That CD picture was really as
realistic as real life is in reality, too. I didn't comment on it as I
am using Slackware on one HD and Debian on the other and have no third
HD to install RedHat...
Two things to think about... one is caustics. I think POV's faked
caustics will suit you fine for the lid edges shadow, but photons
might prove useful for reflection caustics, too. The other thing to
try is the angle dependent patch I read about a couple of weeks ago,
if, of course, it is already public.
All in all, I am in awe of your skills. Great job!
Best regards,
---------
Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700
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No!, I dont have a nice brightly coulored CD Case, but I tried to a nice
dark grey, but could not get the normal right,and to be honest it didn't
show up the detail how i liked, so i stuck with a couple of primiry textures
i have in my 'dev' texture library.
Rick
Phil Clute <pcl### [at] tiacnet> wrote in message
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> That lid looks great.
> Do you really have a green CD jewel case?
>
> --
> ...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
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Phil Clute wrote:
> That lid looks great.
> Do you really have a green CD jewel case?
I have a few sitting right over there.
Green, yellow, red and blue. Came with a set of simple CD racks I got
last year.
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"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
> Sorry to reply to my own post!, I just noticed that it dosn't like JPEG
> compression, even tho i only used 15%. If anyone would like a 800x600 BMP or
> other lossles format, please email me and i will send you a copy!
I want to start by saying I'm not trying to start a fight, really I'm not,
but...
This looks to be one of those images that could really benefit from PNG.
If you don't re-post it as PNG, go ahead and please mail me a PNG version (I'd
love to see the detail).
(Also, since PNG uses the exact same compression as ZIP, in theory a PNG file
version should be just as small as a ZIPped BMP or TGA)
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Yes but as I pointed out a couple of days ago, PNG images are displayed
differently depending on what software is used, forget any ideas you had
about gamma correction with a PNG.
Personally I use a lossless raster format for storage, such as a BMP or TGA,
and do the compression myself.
Rick
Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
news:3733DD8E.988D42A7@geocities.com...
> "Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
>
> > Sorry to reply to my own post!, I just noticed that it dosn't like JPEG
> > compression, even tho i only used 15%. If anyone would like a 800x600
BMP or
> > other lossles format, please email me and i will send you a copy!
>
> I want to start by saying I'm not trying to start a fight, really I'm not,
> but...
>
> This looks to be one of those images that could really benefit from PNG.
>
> If you don't re-post it as PNG, go ahead and please mail me a PNG version
(I'd
> love to see the detail).
> (Also, since PNG uses the exact same compression as ZIP, in theory a PNG
file
> version should be just as small as a ZIPped BMP or TGA)
>
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"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
> Yes but as I pointed out a couple of days ago, PNG images are displayed
> differently depending on what software is used, forget any ideas you had
> about gamma correction with a PNG.
True. At the moment, things are a bit of an issue. But the situation is
improving quite rapidly. Once you figure out how things are really working (i.e
which of your programs display PNG images correctly and which mangle them and
how), then one can start to get a lot better than with using BMP or TGA.
Although I have very realistic ideas about gamma correction with PNG (being a
programmer delving in the graphical realms for ten years now) that don't really
need to change. However, the warning is a very good one that should be put out
for all those who don't read the PNG specs and follow the developer mailing
lists.
To Sum up: BMP and TGA loose all Gamma information, and the end viewer has to
guess what was intended.
PNG stores the Gamma information, _BUT_ not all programs handle this correctly.
In addition, not every image author has his system setup correctly.
Suggestion: all those who are interested in viewing PNG images should test
their different software with the images at
http://www.cdrom.com/pub/png/pngsuite.html
In had with the gamma file at http://www.povray.org/ , all of us can start to
get to see the artistic intent much better.
(BTW, Bad news: Netscape Navigator 4.51 does not handle the gamma correctly,
and just dumps the raw pixels as-is. (then again, that's the situation you have
with JPG, BMP, TGA, etc.)
> Personally I use a lossless raster format for storage, such as a BMP or TGA,
> and do the compression myself.
That's probably fine, but you might be missing out on some minor benefit. A PNG
version of the you sent me was 12% smaller than the ZIPped BMP version (574K
instead of 655K).
Oh, and as far as the content of the PNG over the JPG... WOW. Huge difference,
and great image!
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When the problems with PNG are sorted out i may start using them more, but
for the time being there are to many problems.
As to Gamma, its a nice idea for the file format to use it, but it may be
more of a hinderence for the time being, as many people dont every think
about it, let alown know how to make use of it.
Rick
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