Greetings,

  My nephew Mike Tyler has struck again. This is his first unassisted
image and a variation on the drums example scene that comes with the
Pov distribution files. The source for the face in the back he tells
me comes from a Grateful Dead poster image his dad has in his images
directory. It has been enhanced to Mike's specifications using various
Photo Shop plugins inside PSP 4.1.

 When Mike sent this image to me he simply stated that this raytracing
stuff is "Way cool" and has more ideas he is working on. He thinks
there are way to many options and is having trouble learning everything
at once.

 I think I am having the same problems Mike.


 Let me be the first to comment. This kid is knocking my socks off.
If anything the perseption from that of an 8 (and a half) year old
brought to this medium is both refreshing and unexpected. I think
I'm going to have to kill him before it's too late. Sorry Mike it's
not your fault : )

 Any comments on his image will be forwarded to him as I did with
the comments to his last posted image. He is not yet allowed on the
internet so he is unable to visit here. Be assured I will let him
see your comments and will also reply with any comments he makes in
return.


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mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Ken wrote:
> 

Hi Mike!

This is a far better picture than my first pic that I did several years
ago. I love the picture in the background and how it is reflected by the
water and the way it shines through the drums. 

If you keep up the good work you will soon make the pics from Uncle Ken
look pale!!

All the best,

Marc
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Marc Schimmler wrote:
> 
> Ken wrote:
> >
> 
> Hi Mike!
> 
> This is a far better picture than my first pic that I did several years
> ago. I love the picture in the background and how it is reflected by the
> water and the way it shines through the drums.
> 
> If you keep up the good work you will soon make the pics from Uncle Ken
> look pale!!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Marc
> --
> Marc Schimmler

  Like I am the only person who needs to feel threatened ?

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LOL, yeah... :-O

Hey Mike, great work!  I think it's an excellent form of artistic
expression!  Keep up the great work and we all look forward to more images
from you!  You should ask Uncle Ken about julia fractals, I'm sure that
you'll like them!

Keep on tracing!  Hi from Australia!  :)
(p.s.  Australia isn't all kangaroos, koalas and desert by the way... there
are actually nice people here too, he he he ;-)

--
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Ken wrote in message <372E9FB8.6F269024@pacbell.net>...
>Marc Schimmler wrote:
>>
>> Ken wrote:
>> >
>>
>> Hi Mike!
>>
>> This is a far better picture than my first pic that I did several years
>> ago. I love the picture in the background and how it is reflected by the
>> water and the way it shines through the drums.
>>
>> If you keep up the good work you will soon make the pics from Uncle Ken
>> look pale!!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Marc
>> --
>> Marc Schimmler
>
>  Like I am the only person who needs to feel threatened ?
>
>--
>Ken Tyler
>
>mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Ken wrote:
> 
> 
>   Like I am the only person who needs to feel threatened ?
> 

Well I have my breed that hopefully likes CGI and POV someday, so I'm
not threathened here! :-)

Marc
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Mike, you already have a significant talent. I can't get my son off of
Quake long enough to learn tracing, and he has no interest anyway. Keep on
tracing!

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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Try asking uncle Ken about height fields!

Mick

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Great job Mike. I think everybody here is excited
to you see your skills develop, I know I am.
Keep up the good work.

Phil
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Must have been a small image to start I guess. The "jaggies" or
pixelization is pretty rampant. I don't mind smaller images, they can look
better than the larger sometimes. Anyway, great drum modeling Mike.
The use of colored lights is well done too, although what probably would
have done this much better is spotlights trained upon various regions so
as not to fill the entire image.
Keep it up and I may look into getting a mad scientist to do a brain
transfer between us.


Ken wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
>   My nephew Mike Tyler has struck again. This is his first unassisted
> image and a variation on the drums example scene that comes with the
> Pov distribution files. The source for the face in the back he tells
> me comes from a Grateful Dead poster image his dad has in his images
> directory. It has been enhanced to Mike's specifications using various
> Photo Shop plugins inside PSP 4.1.
> 
>  When Mike sent this image to me he simply stated that this raytracing
> stuff is "Way cool" and has more ideas he is working on. He thinks
> there are way to many options and is having trouble learning everything
> at once.
> 
>  I think I am having the same problems Mike.
> 
>  Let me be the first to comment. This kid is knocking my socks off.
> If anything the perseption from that of an 8 (and a half) year old
> brought to this medium is both refreshing and unexpected. I think
> I'm going to have to kill him before it's too late. Sorry Mike it's
> not your fault : )
> 
>  Any comments on his image will be forwarded to him as I did with
> the comments to his last posted image. He is not yet allowed on the
> internet so he is unable to visit here. Be assured I will let him
> see your comments and will also reply with any comments he makes in
> return.
> 
> --
> Uncle Ken
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
> 
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]

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> Keep on tracing!  Hi from Australia!  :)
> (p.s.  Australia isn't all kangaroos, koalas and desert by the way...
there
> are actually nice people here too, he he he :)

Fibber, its is really!, (or at least 90% of it!)

Rick

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Im impressed! this is good! Keep posting his work here, but i dread to think
what he will be doing in a year or so, *quake*

try introducing him to RAD and AA (but only if he's allowed him to render
overnight :) overwise keep stum!

On the same note, dont tell him about Photons or Glass or media or fog .....

His Folks may have to get themselves a new PC otherwise, mind you, any
excuse to upgrade Eh?

Rick

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:372E74EC.D1F2B55A@pacbell.net...
> Greetings,
>
>   My nephew Mike Tyler has struck again. This is his first unassisted
> image and a variation on the drums example scene that comes with the
> Pov distribution files. The source for the face in the back he tells
> me comes from a Grateful Dead poster image his dad has in his images
> directory. It has been enhanced to Mike's specifications using various
> Photo Shop plugins inside PSP 4.1.
>
>  When Mike sent this image to me he simply stated that this raytracing
> stuff is "Way cool" and has more ideas he is working on. He thinks
> there are way to many options and is having trouble learning everything
> at once.
>
>  I think I am having the same problems Mike.
>
>
>  Let me be the first to comment. This kid is knocking my socks off.
> If anything the perseption from that of an 8 (and a half) year old
> brought to this medium is both refreshing and unexpected. I think
> I'm going to have to kill him before it's too late. Sorry Mike it's
> not your fault : )
>
>  Any comments on his image will be forwarded to him as I did with
> the comments to his last posted image. He is not yet allowed on the
> internet so he is unable to visit here. Be assured I will let him
> see your comments and will also reply with any comments he makes in
> return.
>
>
> --
> Uncle Ken
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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Rick (Kitty5) wrote:
> 
> > Keep on tracing!  Hi from Australia!  :)
> > (p.s.  Australia isn't all kangaroos, koalas and desert by the way...
> there
> > are actually nice people here too, he he he :)
> 
> Fibber, its is really!, (or at least 90% of it!)
> 
> Rick

And that is a liberal figure at that. I would guess more conservatively
towards 98% real Australia and the other 2% or less the foreign implants
such as Lance and his ilk.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Gee, you guys are really funny... but I'm sick of seeing Australia treated
like that... considering it has the highest computer/person ratio in the
world, and the largest online connectivity percentage... I know we've only
got 18 million people here... but it certainly is an advanced place compared
to some...

Ah well... and by the way, Australia is considered the most multicultural
country in the world...

--
Lance.


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Ken wrote in message <372FA62A.8026EB0D@pacbell.net>...
>Rick (Kitty5) wrote:
>>
>> > Keep on tracing!  Hi from Australia!  :)
>> > (p.s.  Australia isn't all kangaroos, koalas and desert by the way...
>> there
>> > are actually nice people here too, he he he :)
>>
>> Fibber, its is really!, (or at least 90% of it!)
>>
>> Rick
>
>And that is a liberal figure at that. I would guess more conservatively
>towards 98% real Australia and the other 2% or less the foreign implants
>such as Lance and his ilk.
>
>--
>Ken Tyler
>
>mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Gee, send me a ticket! :)

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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he he, are you sure you want to put up with the kangaroos and koalas that
will attack you?  ;-)

Just in case anyone didn't pick up on that... it was meant in sarcasm...

--
Lance.


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GrimDude wrote in message <372fdca0.0@news.povray.org>...
>Gee, send me a ticket! :)
>
>GrimDude
>vos### [at] arkansasnet
>
>

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Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Gee, you guys are really funny... but I'm sick of seeing Australia treated
> like that... considering it has the highest computer/person ratio in the
> world, and the largest online connectivity percentage... I know we've only
> got 18 million people here... but it certainly is an advanced place compared
> to some...

  No one said it was a backwards country Lance. The implication of it being
sparsely populated in relation to the amount of developed land can hardly
be contested. You are the one who is being defensive towards something
you should instead cherish.
 
> Ah well... and by the way, Australia is considered the most multicultural
> country in the world...
> 
> --
> Lance.

  Considered by whom ? I personally hold the US in first place in that
regard. We are not a culture so much as we are the world. Ethnic and
social diversity is what this nation was made from and the policy is
as true today as it was 200 years ago. New York has more multi-cultural
inhabitants than your entire country has people. I am not saying this
is good or bad. I justs calls em as I sees um.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Eegad!!  Killer Koalas! Run for your life!

-- 
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I see your point... you know me, always over reacting... always
exaggerating...

--
Lance.


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Great image Mike!

I like the water and the background image.

One suggestion that I would have is to lighte the insides of the
four upper drums.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers
Steve

Ken wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
>   My nephew Mike Tyler has struck again. This is his first unassisted
> image and a variation on the drums example scene that comes with the
> Pov distribution files. The source for the face in the back he tells
> me comes from a Grateful Dead poster image his dad has in his images
> directory. It has been enhanced to Mike's specifications using various
> Photo Shop plugins inside PSP 4.1.
> 
>  When Mike sent this image to me he simply stated that this raytracing
> stuff is "Way cool" and has more ideas he is working on. He thinks
> there are way to many options and is having trouble learning everything
> at once.
> 
>  I think I am having the same problems Mike.
> 
>  Let me be the first to comment. This kid is knocking my socks off.
> If anything the perseption from that of an 8 (and a half) year old
> brought to this medium is both refreshing and unexpected. I think
> I'm going to have to kill him before it's too late. Sorry Mike it's
> not your fault : )
> 
>  Any comments on his image will be forwarded to him as I did with
> the comments to his last posted image. He is not yet allowed on the
> internet so he is unable to visit here. Be assured I will let him
> see your comments and will also reply with any comments he makes in
> return.
> 
> --
> Uncle Ken
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
> 
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]

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Lance Birch wrote:

> Keep on tracing!  Hi from Australia!  :)
> (p.s.  Australia isn't all kangaroos, koalas and desert by the way... there
> are actually nice people here too, he he he ;-)

Hehehe. Actually Australia is a place I'd like to visit. Especially north
western Australia, I hear its one of the more beautiful parts of the world. I'd
also like to visit The Great Bariar Reef and go hiking in the outback. I've
always liked traveling, Me and my parents lived in China for 3 years when I was
younger, by the way I'm 1/2 chinese, though I don't look it. We also live in
Malaysia for about a year and we've also visited Tiland for about  2 weeks. All
that was a LONG time ago though, going on 11 years, so I don't remember much,
but I'd like to get traveling again.

>
>
> --
> Lance.
>
> ---
> For the latest 3D Studio MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
> The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone
> For a totally different experience, visit my Chroma Key Website:
> Colorblind - http://listen.to/colorblind
> Ken wrote in message <372E9FB8.6F269024@pacbell.net>...
> >Marc Schimmler wrote:
> >>
> >> Ken wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hi Mike!
> >>
> >> This is a far better picture than my first pic that I did several years
> >> ago. I love the picture in the background and how it is reflected by the
> >> water and the way it shines through the drums.
> >>
> >> If you keep up the good work you will soon make the pics from Uncle Ken
> >> look pale!!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> --
> >> Marc Schimmler
> >
> >  Like I am the only person who needs to feel threatened ?
> >
> >--
> >Ken Tyler
> >
> >mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Ken wrote:

> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > Gee, you guys are really funny... but I'm sick of seeing Australia treated
> > like that... considering it has the highest computer/person ratio in the
> > world, and the largest online connectivity percentage... I know we've only
> > got 18 million people here... but it certainly is an advanced place compared
> > to some...
>
>   No one said it was a backwards country Lance. The implication of it being
> sparsely populated in relation to the amount of developed land can hardly
> be contested. You are the one who is being defensive towards something
> you should instead cherish.
>
> > Ah well... and by the way, Australia is considered the most multicultural
> > country in the world...
> >
> > --
> > Lance.
>
>   Considered by whom ? I personally hold the US in first place in that
> regard. We are not a culture so much as we are the world. Ethnic and
> social diversity is what this nation was made from and the policy is
> as true today as it was 200 years ago. New York has more multi-cultural
> inhabitants than your entire country has people. I am not saying this
> is good or bad. I justs calls em as I sees um.

I don't know which is actually first. But your probably right about it being the
US. But I live in Canada and I would be surprised if it weren't a close second.

>
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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North Australia is an amazing place, and so is inland of course (but it's
mostly desert area, although of course you could go and see that chunk of
rock that everyone talks about so much ;-)

The rainforests here are amazing too, especially in the Bunya Mountain
regions, and also down south (what am I talking about?  Australia *IS* down
south!!!  ;-) on the Blue Mountain ranges...

The Great Barrier Reef is an incredible place, I really recommend it if you
ever get the chance  :)

Actually, speaking of that, it somewhat reminds me of the effects in Riven
of the reefs...  hey were very well done, looked to me like some kind of
depth density work too... Anyone know how that was achieved?

--
Lance.


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Thomas Lake wrote in message <37314E07.40CB716F@home.com>...
>
>
>Lance Birch wrote:
>
>> Keep on tracing!  Hi from Australia!  :)
>> (p.s.  Australia isn't all kangaroos, koalas and desert by the way...
there
>> are actually nice people here too, he he he ;-)
>
>Hehehe. Actually Australia is a place I'd like to visit. Especially north
>western Australia, I hear its one of the more beautiful parts of the world.
I'd
>also like to visit The Great Bariar Reef and go hiking in the outback. I've
>always liked traveling, Me and my parents lived in China for 3 years when I
was
>younger, by the way I'm 1/2 chinese, though I don't look it. We also live
in
>Malaysia for about a year and we've also visited Tiland for about  2 weeks.
All
>that was a LONG time ago though, going on 11 years, so I don't remember
much,
>but I'd like to get traveling again.

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Nothing is a close second to New York. It's probably the primary hub for
visiting ET's. No one would notice, or care. :)

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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Send me a ticket! :) heh,  j/k of course.

GrimDude
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Yeah, I'd like to go there, too. My great-aunt lives near Sydney... It's
just so damn far from here!

Margus

Thomas Lake wrote in message <37314E07.40CB716F@home.com>...
>
>
>Hehehe. Actually Australia is a place I'd like to visit. Especially north
>western Australia, I hear its one of the more beautiful parts of the world.
I'd
>also like to visit The Great Bariar Reef and go hiking in the outback. I've
>always liked traveling, Me and my parents lived in China for 3 years when I
was
>younger, by the way I'm 1/2 chinese, though I don't look it. We also live
in
>Malaysia for about a year and we've also visited Tiland for about  2 weeks.
All
>that was a LONG time ago though, going on 11 years, so I don't remember
much,
>but I'd like to get traveling again.
>

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