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HAHAHAHA, I LOVE THAT!!!
Well, all I can say to *ahem* Nicholas DePetrillo is that Ken and Spider
both put a lot of work in around here, and have many good comments to make,
and things to share. All of which help the genereal POV-Ray community, so
personally I feel that if you don't like what they're saying, why not email
them personally, and don't act like a coward and try to hide your name!!!
--
Lance.
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Good way to handle it, Ken. Cool and easy. . .seriously.
Me? Hah. I would just stay out. (and miss all the fun. . .DANG :)
-Ian
> Thank you very much. I accept the honor you bestow upon me and
> appreciate the compliments. It is nice to be recognized for the
> effort I make around here to help others. Your tone is a little
> odd but I won't let it take away from the underlying compliments
> you are paying me.
>
> Again thank you.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Excellent point, Jim.
-Ian
P.S. Notice how I like to reply to the STUPIDEST things? Like this flame
war for instance. SHEESH!
Jim Kress <jim### [at] dccmail com> wrote in message
news:3727cbd1.0@news.povray.org...
> When you have the courage to identify yourself, maybe you'll generate some
> useful discussion.
>
> --
> Jim
>
> Check out my web site http://www.kressworks.com/
> It'll blow your mind (politically), stimulate your senses (artistically)
> and provide scientific insights beyond compare!
>
> Be sure to read the Warp maintained POV VFAQ:
> http://iki.fi/warp/povVFAQ.html
>
>
>
>
> _ <_@_.com> wrote in message <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>...
> >hey Spider..I think you've criticized enough of everyone's pictures
> >here...instead of telling us the bad things about the pics, why not the
> good
> >things?
> >
> >_
> >
> >
>
>
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I was just pondering whether I was too lazy to check in this myself....
still pondering my laziness... :)
GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet
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AMAZING! Nick learned to spell! Incredible! I thought it could NEVER be
done!
:)
Congrats on your find, Scott!
Hey, doesn't "_" kinda look like a smiley?
-Ian "_"
P.S. Hehe. Oh yeah, and btw. . . "_"
;P
Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
news:3727D462.E57B8DF9@metrolink.com...
> Hmmm. I wonder who _ could be? Note the nntp-host please.
>
> Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
> From: "_" <_@_.com>
> Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> Subject: Shut up Spider
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:44:38 -0400
> Lines: 7
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> Message-ID: <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>
> --------------------------------------------------
> now watch me pull a rabbit out of the news archives:
>
> Reply-To: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> From: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> Subject: AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:02:38 -0400
> Lines: 1177
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
>
> A note to the kids out there, the internet isn't as anonymous as you may
> think.
>
> Another note, you don't have to pretend to be a genius at POV to be
> accepted here - the few months I've spent in here have dramatically
> improved my pictures, and I've never seen anyone told that they suck for
> anything they've done while learning to use POV.
>
>
> scott.
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Wow, nice sleuthing Scott. Your fingering Nicholas once again was as amusing
addition to this ongoing saga. Although I'm only a humble, occasion, but
legitimate, contributor to this newsgroup, I've been entertained by the
antics and subsequent exposures of this guy. This is the most hilarious
posting yet. Keep 'em coming Nicholas!
Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
news:3727D462.E57B8DF9@metrolink.com...
> Hmmm. I wonder who _ could be? Note the nntp-host please.
>
> Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
> From: "_" <_@_.com>
> Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> Subject: Shut up Spider
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:44:38 -0400
> Lines: 7
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> Message-ID: <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>
> --------------------------------------------------
> now watch me pull a rabbit out of the news archives:
>
> Reply-To: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> From: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> Subject: AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:02:38 -0400
> Lines: 1177
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
>
> A note to the kids out there, the internet isn't as anonymous as you may
> think.
>
> Another note, you don't have to pretend to be a genius at POV to be
> accepted here - the few months I've spent in here have dramatically
> improved my pictures, and I've never seen anyone told that they suck for
> anything they've done while learning to use POV.
>
>
> scott.
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<sigh> it just makes me sad. If he'd come in as a new user of POV and
wanted to learn instead of show off, this would have been much
different.
David Cook wrote:
>
> Wow, nice sleuthing Scott. Your fingering Nicholas once again was as amusing
> addition to this ongoing saga. Although I'm only a humble, occasion, but
> legitimate, contributor to this newsgroup, I've been entertained by the
> antics and subsequent exposures of this guy. This is the most hilarious
> posting yet. Keep 'em coming Nicholas!
>
> Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
> news:3727D462.E57B8DF9@metrolink.com...
> > Hmmm. I wonder who _ could be? Note the nntp-host please.
> >
> > Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
> > From: "_" <_@_.com>
> > Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> > Subject: Shut up Spider
> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:44:38 -0400
> > Lines: 7
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> > Message-ID: <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > now watch me pull a rabbit out of the news archives:
> >
> > Reply-To: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> > From: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> > Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> > Subject: AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:02:38 -0400
> > Lines: 1177
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> >
> > A note to the kids out there, the internet isn't as anonymous as you may
> > think.
> >
> > Another note, you don't have to pretend to be a genius at POV to be
> > accepted here - the few months I've spent in here have dramatically
> > improved my pictures, and I've never seen anyone told that they suck for
> > anything they've done while learning to use POV.
> >
> >
> > scott.
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I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a nntp
address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's case
(Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
use it. But i could be wrong..
Nathan Zwalsh
ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
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Ah, if it is hotmail.com, then yeah, it could be someone else. Mighty
suspicious, but i'll give grain of doubt.
"Nathan R. Zwalsh" wrote:
>
> I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a nntp
> address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's case
> (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> use it. But i could be wrong..
>
> Nathan Zwalsh
>
> ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
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Nope. I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the extended
headers in the newsgroup post. This gives a detailed explanation of the
authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's IP
address. The IP address identifies someone on the Internet. It is of the
format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255. Since Nick has cable
modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes. However,
with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not. Right now, my IP is
208.210.22.16. Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change. Maybe
to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99. Usually, on these dynamic IP's
(where it changes), the last number changes.
Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a cable
modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages. Good sign
of an attempted cover up.
Hope this helps :)
-Ian
Nathan R. Zwalsh <nrz### [at] fatnetnet> wrote in message
news:3727DA25.787A358E@fatnet.net...
>
>
>
> I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a
nntp
> address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's
case
> (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> use it. But i could be wrong..
>
> Nathan Zwalsh
>
> ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
>
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For what it's worth, Ian's right - this address traces back to
@home.com, and since cable modems are static IP addresses, this makes
the odds of it not being Nick very small.
<sigh>
Ian Burgmyer wrote:
>
> Nope. I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the extended
> headers in the newsgroup post. This gives a detailed explanation of the
> authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
> text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's IP
> address. The IP address identifies someone on the Internet. It is of the
> format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255. Since Nick has cable
> modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes. However,
> with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not. Right now, my IP is
> 208.210.22.16. Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change. Maybe
> to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99. Usually, on these dynamic IP's
> (where it changes), the last number changes.
>
> Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a cable
> modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages. Good sign
> of an attempted cover up.
>
> Hope this helps :)
>
> -Ian
>
> Nathan R. Zwalsh <nrz### [at] fatnetnet> wrote in message
> news:3727DA25.787A358E@fatnet.net...
> >
> >
> >
> > I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a
> nntp
> > address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's
> case
> > (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> > use it. But i could be wrong..
> >
> > Nathan Zwalsh
> >
> > ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
> >
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I agree. But on the other hand, he didn't pull the wool over this newsgroups
eyes, did he? Your posting was the most entertaining turn yet (for me,
anyway). We may not ever turn Nicholas from the Dark Side, but we can at
least enjoy his antics.
Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
news:3727D99E.D041CF5D@metrolink.com...
> <sigh> it just makes me sad. If he'd come in as a new user of POV and
> wanted to learn instead of show off, this would have been much
> different.
>
> David Cook wrote:
> >
> > Wow, nice sleuthing Scott. Your fingering Nicholas once again was as
amusing
> > addition to this ongoing saga. Although I'm only a humble, occasion, but
> > legitimate, contributor to this newsgroup, I've been entertained by the
> > antics and subsequent exposures of this guy. This is the most hilarious
> > posting yet. Keep 'em coming Nicholas!
> >
> > Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
> > news:3727D462.E57B8DF9@metrolink.com...
> > > Hmmm. I wonder who _ could be? Note the nntp-host please.
> > >
> > > Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
> > > From: "_" <_@_.com>
> > > Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> > > Subject: Shut up Spider
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:44:38 -0400
> > > Lines: 7
> > > X-Priority: 3
> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> > > Message-ID: <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > now watch me pull a rabbit out of the news archives:
> > >
> > > Reply-To: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> > > From: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> > > Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> > > Subject: AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:02:38 -0400
> > > Lines: 1177
> > > X-Priority: 3
> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> > >
> > > A note to the kids out there, the internet isn't as anonymous as you
may
> > > think.
> > >
> > > Another note, you don't have to pretend to be a genius at POV to be
> > > accepted here - the few months I've spent in here have dramatically
> > > improved my pictures, and I've never seen anyone told that they suck
for
> > > anything they've done while learning to use POV.
> > >
> > >
> > > scott.
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Yes, most @home addresses are 24.x.x.x. I know several people with cable
modems (all through @home) and they are ALL 24.x.x.x.
It's depressing. . .Nick may have been a great artist some day. . .instead
he's a good for nothing little. . .[censored]
:|
-Ian
Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
news:3727DDB8.6EE69996@metrolink.com...
> For what it's worth, Ian's right - this address traces back to
> @home.com, and since cable modems are static IP addresses, this makes
> the odds of it not being Nick very small.
>
> <sigh>
>
> Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> >
> > Nope. I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the
extended
> > headers in the newsgroup post. This gives a detailed explanation of the
> > authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
> > text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's
IP
> > address. The IP address identifies someone on the Internet. It is of
the
> > format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255. Since Nick has
cable
> > modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes.
However,
> > with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not. Right now, my IP is
> > 208.210.22.16. Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change.
Maybe
> > to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99. Usually, on these dynamic IP's
> > (where it changes), the last number changes.
> >
> > Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a
cable
> > modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages. Good
sign
> > of an attempted cover up.
> >
> > Hope this helps :)
> >
> > -Ian
> >
> > Nathan R. Zwalsh <nrz### [at] fatnetnet> wrote in message
> > news:3727DA25.787A358E@fatnet.net...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what
a
> > nntp
> > > address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's
> > case
> > > (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone
could
> > > use it. But i could be wrong..
> > >
> > > Nathan Zwalsh
> > >
> > > ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
> > >
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Typo. . .I meant this:
"instead, he had to act like a good for nothing little. . .[censored]
It's late. G'night!
-Ian
Ian Burgmyer <the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3727dec5.0@news.povray.org...
> Yes, most @home addresses are 24.x.x.x. I know several people with cable
> modems (all through @home) and they are ALL 24.x.x.x.
>
> It's depressing. . .Nick may have been a great artist some day. . .instead
> he's a good for nothing little. . .[censored]
>
> :|
>
> -Ian
>
> Scott McDonald <sco### [at] metrolinkcom> wrote in message
> news:3727DDB8.6EE69996@metrolink.com...
> > For what it's worth, Ian's right - this address traces back to
> > @home.com, and since cable modems are static IP addresses, this makes
> > the odds of it not being Nick very small.
> >
> > <sigh>
> >
> > Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> > >
> > > Nope. I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the
> extended
> > > headers in the newsgroup post. This gives a detailed explanation of
the
> > > authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
> > > text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's
> IP
> > > address. The IP address identifies someone on the Internet. It is of
> the
> > > format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255. Since Nick has
> cable
> > > modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes.
> However,
> > > with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not. Right now, my IP
is
> > > 208.210.22.16. Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change.
> Maybe
> > > to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99. Usually, on these dynamic
IP's
> > > (where it changes), the last number changes.
> > >
> > > Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a
> cable
> > > modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages. Good
> sign
> > > of an attempted cover up.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps :)
> > >
> > > -Ian
> > >
> > > Nathan R. Zwalsh <nrz### [at] fatnetnet> wrote in message
> > > news:3727DA25.787A358E@fatnet.net...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know
what
> a
> > > nntp
> > > > address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in
nick's
> > > case
> > > > (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone
> could
> > > > use it. But i could be wrong..
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Zwalsh
> > > >
> > > > ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
> > > >
>
>
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I think it quite the homage paid to all involved that said person took the
extra time and sincere effort to purchase a thesaurus and run Spell-Check.
it reminds me of a story...
once upon a time there was a man who had grown an ill favor towards his
neighbor and decided to express his ire in person. He shouted his position
at the unaware neighbor, but to the surprise of the man it bore little
reaction. In frustration the man began to throw handfuls of dirt at his
neighbor hoping to soil his unaffected disposition. The neighbor did little
more than casually dodge the aggregate onslaught. Enraged that the object of
his anger remained untouched, the man got a shovel and began to lob heaps of
dirt, rocks, sod and root at his neighbor. This continued until at last,
spent and exhausted, bent over and panting at the bottom of a deep hole, the
man surrendered his folly. Climbing out of the hole, the man grumbled, "To
hell with you", and sauntered off, defeated. Reaching for his garden hose,
the neighbor called out to the man," Thank you for the pool, perhaps when it
is filled you would like to cool off!".
good night- ;-]
KB-
Scott McDonald wrote:
> Hmmm. I wonder who _ could be? Note the nntp-host please.
>
> Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
> From: "_" <_@_.com>
> Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> Subject: Shut up Spider
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:44:38 -0400
> Lines: 7
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.0.254.216
> Message-ID: <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>
> --------------------------------------------------
> now watch me pull a rabbit out of the news archives:
>
> Reply-To: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> From: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> Subject: AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:02:38 -0400
> Lines: 1177
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> A note to the kids out there, the internet isn't as anonymous as you may
> think.
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> Another note, you don't have to pretend to be a genius at POV to be
> accepted here - the few months I've spent in here have dramatically
> improved my pictures, and I've never seen anyone told that they suck for
> anything they've done while learning to use POV.
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> scott.
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Jim Kress wrote:
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> When you have the courage to identify yourself, maybe you'll generate some
> useful discussion.
>
From:
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conclusion?
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// Rikard Bosnjakovic - http://a214.ryd.student.liu.se/ - ICQ: 1158217
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Nice Catch!
Detective Scott McDonald, POV's very own private-eye.
Incidentally, to Ken and Spider when it comes to my posts
feel free to fire away! I could use all the help I can get.
--
...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
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After mostly lurking here for the last few months and reading nearly every
post here, I must say that these attacks are very uncalled for. I can't
recall ever reading a reply from either Ken or Spider that was anything
other than honest and helpful. Most of the ones I've seen from them have
been very positive of the images presented here.
Besides that, I don't think anyone who says things in such an inflammatory
manner can really be taken seriously when posting anonymously.
Rygad
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All I can say is that is a great piece of detective work. Wish I had
thought of it first. Also wish I had replied when I first saw it. Oh well,
such is life that we must put up with this sort of behavior from those who
will not take the time to learn real skill.
Rygad
Note- I am far too awed by the regular postings here to add my immature and
simple abstract images to the esteemed collection here.
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He even tried if his changed name worked correct.
Two minutes before he posted here he tested it at binary.utilities.
Well Nicholas ... you are welcome here if you post you *OWN* work here
and if keep to a certain level of politeness even after the things
you've done here. If keep on going in the direction you do now you
better be careful!
This all I have to say to this unpleasant story.
Marc
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Rygad wrote:
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> Note- I am far too awed by the regular postings here to add my immature and
> simple abstract images to the esteemed collection here.
Oh like your the only one huh?:)
"Esteemed collection" may be too high a praise, however I have to agree
that this group is a fine gallery of works done with POV-Ray showing
many varied aspects. Better than cruising the web pages sometimes.
Come on, post some immature abstract stuff, everyone else does. Just
kidding folks.
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
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mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News
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Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:
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> I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a nntp
> address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's case
> (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> use it. But i could be wrong..
>
> Nathan Zwalsh
>
> ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
Not only Scott is into detective games:
Here is the output of nslookup:
216.254.0.24.in-addr.arpa name=cx967847-a.crans1.ri.home.com
254.0.24.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns1.home.net
254.0.24.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.home.net
ns1.home.net internet address = 24.0.0.27
ns2.home.net internet address = 24.2.0.27
No hotmail around. Looks like his home :-)
Axel
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Axel Hecht wrote:
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> Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:
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> > I did notice one thing though, I'm no internet pro and dont know what a nntp
> > address is, but i'm assuming that it I.D's the e-mail server in nick's case
> > (Hot mail.com) which is a very popular free e-mail server and anyone could
> > use it. But i could be wrong..
> >
> > Nathan Zwalsh
> >
> > ps Scott McDonald A.K.A Sherlock Holmes . good detective work.
>
> Not only Scott is into detective games:
> Here is the output of nslookup:
>
> 216.254.0.24.in-addr.arpa name=cx967847-a.crans1.ri.home.com
> 254.0.24.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns1.home.net
> 254.0.24.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.home.net
> ns1.home.net internet address = 24.0.0.27
> ns2.home.net internet address = 24.2.0.27
>
> No hotmail around. Looks like his home :-)
>
> Axel
It's in Cranston, RI. If you're up to it you even can get his address
and phone number. No use for that though. It's difficult to hide in the
net ... even for me! :-)
Marc
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<BOOM>
Shot down!
Thsught i'd better respond as the critisms of Kens that was quoted was in
fact leveled at an image of mine.
All i can say is, Thanks Ken, for some quality feedback, after all, if all i
wanted was biased one sided prase, i could have shown the image to my family
:)
my my, there are some clever ppl on this NG, well done all who figured out
the TRUE identity of "_", btw lookie what i found in another POV.NG
Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
From: "_" <_@_.com>
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with a one letter post ( F ), looks like a test post to see of his attemps
at masking his identity would wash?
Rick
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Dear WATCH MAKER, or whoever,
I rarely post images, I think it's been two in the last twelve
months. I try to give compliments to every image, and make
suggestions as to improvements/possible further development of
the scene.
So you can probably lump me in with Spider and Ken, though they
produce far much work than myself, and their criticisms and
suggestions are from a viewpoint that has much more POV
experience and knowledge behind it than my own.
This group including Ken and Spider are also tolerant of people
who don't have a clue, and those people given this environment
grow as artists to become accomplished and esteemed individuals
within the group within a short period of time.
Cheers
Steve
_ wrote:
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> Also I have to complain about ken..who ever he is and his butt buddy here
> spider think they are...they have no right to complain about such stupid and
> small details and errors. Like for example!
>
> A few posts down "CD-ROMs attempt at photo realism"
> ken said and I quote!
>
> "That's a nice set of table coaster you have there (don't try to figure
> it out it's an inside joke around here). Seriously this is one of the
> better attempts on this theme I have seen to date. It is evident you
> put considerable effort into it and it has paid off. Be careful with
> the use of the work photo realism. Do you want it to look like a photo,
> or do you want it to look like a real life view of this object in this
> setting, fooling the viewer that it was indeed really there ??"
> Now its a positive statement..but he has to add something negative! like
> below where he gets upset about something so stupid and small...the use of
> the word photorealism in this mans subject!
>
> KEN: "I disliket he term photo realism for the above stated argument.
> It
> seems contrary to the intent of the artist to mimic reality in a
> virtual medium."
>
> I mean come on! shut up! i dont ever see you or spider posting your
> pictures! im sure you could do a kick ass ob but come on man!
>
> _
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Ian Burgmyer wrote:
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> Nope. I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the extended
> headers in the newsgroup post. This gives a detailed explanation of the
Yes, try View-->Headers-->All if you're using Netscape 4.5.
> authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
> text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's IP
> address. The IP address identifies someone on the Internet. It is of the
Almost. To be nitpicking: It identifies a _machine_ on the Internet.
This is not necessarily the same as an individual. (Heard of multiuser
systems?)
> format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255. Since Nick has cable
> modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes. However,
> with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not. Right now, my IP is
> 208.210.22.16. Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change. Maybe
> to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99. Usually, on these dynamic IP's
> (where it changes), the last number changes.
I can't believe that each cable modem has its own IP address. I guess
they are shared in a somewhat dynamic way.
>
> Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a cable
> modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages. Good sign
> of an attempted cover up.
I agree. That's what stochastics tells us.
-Hans-
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Hans-Detlev Fink wrote:
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> I can't believe that each cable modem has its own IP address. I guess
> they are shared in a somewhat dynamic way.
>
> -Hans-
Even in Germany do the cable modems have a static IP address. This is
useful due
to the fact that it is connected 24 hrs a day. You could also check
www.home.com if you want more information on that.
Marc
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If anyone *does* call this guy, please keep it nice, tell him he is
forgiven, just please bring the threads back to RAY-TRACING, our hobby and
first (foremost) love. <G>
GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet
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POST, Post, post....
GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet
Rygad wrote in message <372808a5.0@news.povray.org>...
>All I can say is that is a great piece of detective work. Wish I had
>thought of it first. Also wish I had replied when I first saw it. Oh
well,
>such is life that we must put up with this sort of behavior from those who
>will not take the time to learn real skill.
>
>Rygad
>
>Note- I am far too awed by the regular postings here to add my immature and
>simple abstract images to the esteemed collection here.
>
>
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Rick (Kitty5) wrote:
> <BOOM>
>
> Shot down!
>
> Thsught i'd better respond as the critisms of Kens that was quoted was in
> fact leveled at an image of mine.
>
> All i can say is, Thanks Ken, for some quality feedback, after all, if all i
> wanted was biased one sided prase, i could have shown the image to my family
> :)
Lucky you... all my family gives me is criticism :)
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_ <_@_.com> wrote in message <3727c176.0@news.povray.org>...
[snipped a lot of rubbish]
Sigh...
What is a killfile good for if people come back changing their names???
Johannes.
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I wrote in message <372874a9.0@news.povray.org>...
[snip]
>
>Sigh...
>What is a killfile good for if people come back changing their names???
Hmmm, actually I am considering removing Nick from my filter-list again.
Between his "AWESOMME ROLLEX" thread and this case of
"if-I-cover-my-eyes-no-one-can-see-me-and-I-can-say-whatever-I-want,-right?"
I and my colleagues had a very good laugh! Although we are still wondering
about how a single person can be so, well, plain minded. :-)
Johannes.
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Johannes Hubert wrote:
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> I wrote in message <372874a9.0@news.povray.org>...
> [snip]
> >
> >Sigh...
> >What is a killfile good for if people come back changing their names???
>
> Hmmm, actually I am considering removing Nick from my filter-list again.
>
> Between his "AWESOMME ROLLEX" thread and this case of
> "if-I-cover-my-eyes-no-one-can-see-me-and-I-can-say-whatever-I-want,-right?"
> I and my colleagues had a very good laugh! Although we are still wondering
> about how a single person can be so, well, plain minded. :-)
>
> Johannes.
I personaly don't have the brass cahonies to try some of the stunts
he has pulled around here. If anything he sure knows how to burn band
width.
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I really don't understand why we pay so much attention to this guy. I
don't think he deserves it. He's very rude, and I think that not giving
him attention anymore would be even more effective than this quite long
thread.
Only IMO !
ZK
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The funny thing about this whole escapade is that I was thinking that I needed
an anonymous nickname to increase my credibility around here, to make me more
like Spider, Twyst, "Ken", Wykan, etc.
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> I really don't understand why we pay so much attention to this guy. I
> don't think he deserves it. He's very rude, and I think that not giving
> him attention anymore would be even more effective than this quite long
> thread.
>
> Only IMO !
>
> ZK
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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message news:372### [at] aolcom...
<snip>
> Come on, post some immature abstract stuff, everyone else does.
That was a dig at me, right? <g>
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Hans-Detlev Fink wrote:
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> Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> >
> > Nope. I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) that it is actually the extended
> > headers in the newsgroup post. This gives a detailed explanation of the
>
> Yes, try View-->Headers-->All if you're using Netscape 4.5.
That'll work in Linux (I use Netscape in Linux), but I'm still not sure
about IE5 (I use it in Windows).
> > authors name, E-Mail address, the format from the post (text/html,
> > text/plain, or something like that), some other info, and the poster's IP
> > address. The IP address identifies someone on the Internet. It is of the
>
> Almost. To be nitpicking: It identifies a _machine_ on the Internet.
> This is not necessarily the same as an individual. (Heard of multiuser
> systems?)
Yes, I know that. I was trying to explain it to the person I sent the
reply to. He claimed he was a new computer user. So. . .
> > format x.x.x.x, with x being an integer from 0 to 255. Since Nick has cable
> > modem (SUPER FAST) services through @Home.com, his never changes. However,
> > with a dial-up ISP, it changes more-often-then-not. Right now, my IP is
> > 208.210.22.16. Now next time I dial up to my ISP, it could change. Maybe
> > to 208.210.22.10 or even 208.210.22.99. Usually, on these dynamic IP's
> > (where it changes), the last number changes.
>
> I can't believe that each cable modem has its own IP address. I guess
> they are shared in a somewhat dynamic way.
Yeah, they do. The reason? They're all connected 24/7. That's the
problem. Also, many people run servers and stuff on cable modems and
dynamic IPs would REALLY screw it up. That's the reason for static IPs,
as I see it.
> > Scott noticed, by looking at the message headers, that Nick's (being a cable
> > modem user through @home) IP was 24.0.254.216 in both messages. Good sign
> > of an attempted cover up.
>
> I agree. That's what stochastics tells us.
>
> -Hans-
Cyaz :)
-Ian
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*laugh*
more comments on the thread later.
:-)
bankspad wrote:
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> I think it quite the homage paid to all involved that said person took the
> extra time and sincere effort to purchase a thesaurus and run Spell-Check.
> it reminds me of a story...
>
> once upon a time there was a man who had grown an ill favor towards his
> neighbor and decided to express his ire in person. He shouted his position
> at the unaware neighbor, but to the surprise of the man it bore little
> reaction. In frustration the man began to throw handfuls of dirt at his
> neighbor hoping to soil his unaffected disposition. The neighbor did little
> more than casually dodge the aggregate onslaught. Enraged that the object of
> his anger remained untouched, the man got a shovel and began to lob heaps of
> dirt, rocks, sod and root at his neighbor. This continued until at last,
> spent and exhausted, bent over and panting at the bottom of a deep hole, the
> man surrendered his folly. Climbing out of the hole, the man grumbled, "To
> hell with you", and sauntered off, defeated. Reaching for his garden hose,
> the neighbor called out to the man," Thank you for the pool, perhaps when it
> is filled you would like to cool off!".
>
> good night- ;-]
>
> KB-
>
> Scott McDonald wrote:
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> > Hmmm. I wonder who _ could be? Note the nntp-host please.
> >
> > Reply-To: "_" <_@_.com>
> > From: "_" <_@_.com>
> > Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> > Subject: Shut up Spider
> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:44:38 -0400
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> > Message-ID: <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > now watch me pull a rabbit out of the news archives:
> >
> > Reply-To: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> > From: "Nicholas DePetrillo" <N1h### [at] hotmailcom>
> > Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
> > Subject: AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:02:38 -0400
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> >
> > A note to the kids out there, the internet isn't as anonymous as you may
> > think.
> >
> > Another note, you don't have to pretend to be a genius at POV to be
> > accepted here - the few months I've spent in here have dramatically
> > improved my pictures, and I've never seen anyone told that they suck for
> > anything they've done while learning to use POV.
> >
> > scott.
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//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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In reply to Phil Clute and Scott.
>
> Nice Catch!
> Detective Scott McDonald, POV's very own private-eye.
*bows to Scott*
Thankyou.
>
> Incidentally, to Ken and Spider when it comes to my posts
> feel free to fire away! I could use all the help I can get.
Thanx, rest assured, I will ... *small laugh*
--
//Spider -- [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
And the meek'll inherit what they damn well please
Get ahead, go figure, go ahead and pull the trigger
Everything under the gun
--"Sistters Of Mercy" -- "Under The Gun"
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I've decided to follow ken - my name (my LAST name).
Now, about this guy, or in fact anyone who:
1. fakes pictures
2. fakes animations
3. opens his big mouth and talks nonsense about people who deserve
praise
and
4. keeps himself anonymous in fear and cowardice
i think that the following guidlines should be implemented:
We will retaliate, using our fiercest weopens. The forces of NATO will
not allow such behaivor and therefore @HOME will be bombed. Interferance
will be restrained, and resistance is futile.
-------
You have been erased.
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*laugh*
Sorry, but I really thought I had met all the worst trolls on the net by now,
but you proved me wrong once again.. *laugh*
It's really amusing to see this attempt at anonymity on the net. Well, Failure
again, as the last time you tried to fool this group?
now to your attack on my postings... Well, you seem to think that I am unable to
give nice and good critique to images posted here, no?
Hmm, i wonder if this is because I dared complain on your image? ahh, or was it
that I asked you not to spam us with double copies of the image? or?
Well, it might have been the comment that it looked too much like a summer sea?
didn't like that one?
or was it that I asked you to stop yelling in the group... Well, you stopped,
that's one plus for you.
Now to my musings on this matter.
When I post an image, I want comments, lots of them, good ones, but I even more
want the "bad" ones, the replies where people share their views on what can be
improved in my scenes. If everyone only posted "hey, that's great" and "weeee, I
wish I could do that" there wouldn't be much need to post stuff here at all,
would there?
Well, you an reply to my email address, and we can keep this off the group,
since I don't think there is a reason to spam it more with this ridicule flame
you started..
And, to the rest of you who read this:
I really enjoy to get and read good comments, and I try to post comments, be
they good or "bad". in some cases, I don't really know what to say, either
because there isn't much to say/comment(Gilles images.. *smile*) and I only
stand astonished for a long time, or because it is of a subject I have no idea
about. Although I generally try to make at least a one-liner reply, since I only
think it is polite to comment on someone's effort, and because it is admirable
that they do place the energy in something.
hmm... look what you made me do... just broke my habit of short posts..
dammit :-)
Well, to you group. And, if we continue this useless thread, do so in the
newgroup called "junk" (yep, the one we can't post to.) since I personally don't
feel like wasting more bandwidth on this particular troll. Any suggestions on
"how to post/what to post" goes to a new thread in .general(preferable with that
name), so just lets kill this. ok?
_ wrote:
>
> hey Spider..I think you've criticized enough of everyone's pictures
> here...instead of telling us the bad things about the pics, why not the good
> things?
>
> _
--
//Spider -- [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
And the meek'll inherit what they damn well please
Get ahead, go figure, go ahead and pull the trigger
Everything under the gun
--"Sisters Of Mercy" -- "Under The Gun"
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*grabbing Nathans trumpet*........
let us bow our heads -- take a moment and parse silently
*ahem*
dah dah daaaahhhh
dah dah dahhhhhh
dah dah dahhh
dah dah dahh
dah dah dahhhhhh ..... <yep, taps>
Now that the one who was named on the "Flame" has called it over...then so let it be
done...
KB-
;-]
Spider wrote:
> *laugh*
>
> Sorry, but I really thought I had met all the worst trolls on the net by now,
> but you proved me wrong once again.. *laugh*
>
> It's really amusing to see this attempt at anonymity on the net. Well, Failure
> again, as the last time you tried to fool this group?
>
> now to your attack on my postings... Well, you seem to think that I am unable to
> give nice and good critique to images posted here, no?
>
> Hmm, i wonder if this is because I dared complain on your image? ahh, or was it
> that I asked you not to spam us with double copies of the image? or?
> Well, it might have been the comment that it looked too much like a summer sea?
> didn't like that one?
> or was it that I asked you to stop yelling in the group... Well, you stopped,
> that's one plus for you.
>
> Now to my musings on this matter.
>
> When I post an image, I want comments, lots of them, good ones, but I even more
> want the "bad" ones, the replies where people share their views on what can be
> improved in my scenes. If everyone only posted "hey, that's great" and "weeee, I
> wish I could do that" there wouldn't be much need to post stuff here at all,
> would there?
>
> Well, you an reply to my email address, and we can keep this off the group,
> since I don't think there is a reason to spam it more with this ridicule flame
> you started..
>
> And, to the rest of you who read this:
> I really enjoy to get and read good comments, and I try to post comments, be
> they good or "bad". in some cases, I don't really know what to say, either
> because there isn't much to say/comment(Gilles images.. *smile*) and I only
> stand astonished for a long time, or because it is of a subject I have no idea
> about. Although I generally try to make at least a one-liner reply, since I only
> think it is polite to comment on someone's effort, and because it is admirable
> that they do place the energy in something.
>
> hmm... look what you made me do... just broke my habit of short posts..
> dammit :-)
>
> Well, to you group. And, if we continue this useless thread, do so in the
> newgroup called "junk" (yep, the one we can't post to.) since I personally don't
> feel like wasting more bandwidth on this particular troll. Any suggestions on
> "how to post/what to post" goes to a new thread in .general(preferable with that
> name), so just lets kill this. ok?
>
> _ wrote:
> >
> > hey Spider..I think you've criticized enough of everyone's pictures
> > here...instead of telling us the bad things about the pics, why not the good
> > things?
> >
> > _
>
> --
> //Spider -- [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> And the meek'll inherit what they damn well please
> Get ahead, go figure, go ahead and pull the trigger
> Everything under the gun
> --"Sisters Of Mercy" -- "Under The Gun"
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Muah? :)
-Ian
Lewis <ble### [at] netvisionnetil> wrote in message
news:3728CB10.FDB43E96@netvision.net.il...
> I've decided to follow ken - my name (my LAST name).
> Now, about this guy, or in fact anyone who:
> 1. fakes pictures
> 2. fakes animations
> 3. opens his big mouth and talks nonsense about people who deserve
> praise
> and
> 4. keeps himself anonymous in fear and cowardice
>
> i think that the following guidlines should be implemented:
> We will retaliate, using our fiercest weopens. The forces of NATO will
> not allow such behaivor and therefore @HOME will be bombed. Interferance
> will be restrained, and resistance is futile.
> -------
> You have been erased.
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Whoa, hold on now, I mistakenly posted here within this thread (twice as of this
reply).
Really, don't you believe me? I'm outta here.
double <g>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
>
> That was a dig at me, right? <g>
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News
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I was just beginning to like the phrase "Shut up Spider". It's been burnt into my
monitor
screen and now subliminaly beckons me to post more replies to it.
So to break this cursed thing I renamed the subject line! (insert evil laugh here)
Spider Spoke up and said:
> so just lets kill this. ok?
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?Subject=PoV-News
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Well, I know it's off, but just a tip from the friendly people as to how to
handle spam:
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99feb/19990222.html
(Ooopss, long URL, you may have to twiddle to get there.)
Axel, a true admirer of Erwin
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Ah, I agree, you see we can't just end it like that... we have to drag this
whole thing out for a little longer just to make the original, er,
"anonymous" poster feel worse ;-) See, I bet it's already working...
(childish giggle)
--
Lance.
---
For the latest 3D Studio MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone
For a totally different experience, visit my Chroma Key Website:
Colorblind - http://listen.to/colorblind
Bob Hughes wrote in message <37296B17.1C3BBB8F@aol.com>...
>I was just beginning to like the phrase "Shut up Spider". It's been burnt
into my monitor
>screen and now subliminaly beckons me to post more replies to it.
>So to break this cursed thing I renamed the subject line! (insert evil
laugh here)
>
>Spider Spoke up and said:
>
>> so just lets kill this. ok?
>
>--
> omniVERSE: beyond the universe
> http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
> mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?Subject=PoV-News
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I absolutely disagree with this message, and I als think it's very weak and
childish to not post your name.......
Be upright, and tell us who you are, then we really can judge your
opinion...
_ <_@_.com> heeft geschreven in bericht <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>...
>hey Spider..I think you've criticized enough of everyone's pictures
>here...instead of telling us the bad things about the pics, why not the
good
>things?
>
>_
>
>
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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Shut up Spider <--- BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Date: 1 May 1999 09:45:30
Message: <372af76a.0@news.povray.org>
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OK, I went overboard on the last one Nicholas, sorry that I offended you,
I'm cancelling the message.
--
Lance.
---
For the latest 3D Studio MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone
For a totally different experience, visit my Chroma Key Website:
Colorblind - http://listen.to/colorblind
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Read up a couple posts, Doc :)
You'll love this
-Ian
PS I will never use a punctuation mark ever again Never Never I will never
do it again You heard me right, <-- Oops! Slipped :)
Bugs74 <wdi### [at] telekabelnl> wrote in message
news:372a3f9a.0@news.povray.org...
> I absolutely disagree with this message, and I als think it's very weak
and
> childish to not post your name.......
>
> Be upright, and tell us who you are, then we really can judge your
> opinion...
>
>
> _ <_@_.com> heeft geschreven in bericht <3727b9b3.0@news.povray.org>...
> >hey Spider..I think you've criticized enough of everyone's pictures
> >here...instead of telling us the bad things about the pics, why not the
> good
> >things?
> >
> >_
> >
> >
>
>
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