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From: Govert Zoethout
Subject: W---
Date: 15 Mar 1999 06:35:57
Message: <36ED6F0E.6A1E@gmx.net>
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From: Phoenix
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 07:38:10
Message: <MPG.11571dd8187ee5389896a6@news.povray.org>
'T was on Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:35:26 -0800,
that Govert Zoethout wrote:
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> http://victorian.fortunecity.com/dada/507/
> 
> [image/jpeg]
> 

Okay, let's look at this one:
The threads are made from blobs, which are translated and rotated to get 
half a sinus. The mist is a media contained by a sphere.

Quite simple, if you look at the source. But impressive.

Phoenix - Govert's emissary?

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 08:09:23
Message: <36ED06BD.CA994867@pacbell.net>
Govert Zoethout wrote:
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> http://victorian.fortunecity.com/dada/507/


  "Dit is een erg goed beeld en het werk dat je doet is heel goed."


  Wish I could do that. Damn who is this guy anyway. We need to teach
him English so we can pump him for information.


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Ken Tyler

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 09:06:40
Message: <36ED13EC.AA6280C4@aol.com>
The perspective camera makes this look odd. Yet it's an artsy picture so
no matter.
Good to see ol' G.Z. can still crank them out. How many letters to go
now? I lost count.


Govert Zoethout wrote:
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> http://victorian.fortunecity.com/dada/507/
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>  [Image]

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From: Pedro Graterol
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 12:06:45
Message: <36ed3e25.0@news.povray.org>
Your work is very promising and interesting, I think your images deserve a
lot of study. However, I have a complaint. Your html is very, very
heavy, -my browser simply refused to work properly twice-. I do not know if
is the Javascript -I doubt it-.
I think that it can be that you have a lot of images in only one html page.,
if you break them the readability will improve a lot. On the other hand,
although in a language unknown for me, I appreciate you used a kind of
understandable key words very common in POV, they serve as a path to
apprehend your work, including the POV-master. Thanks again for providing
some inc codes, even though I did not download for the reason stated above.

Regards,
Marjorie Graterol

Govert Zoethout wrote in message <36E### [at] gmxnet>...
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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 13:05:53
Message: <36ed4c01.0@news.povray.org>
Ken schrieb in Nachricht <36ED06BD.CA994867@pacbell.net>...

>  "Dit is een erg goed beeld en het werk dat je doet is heel goed."
>
>
>  Wish I could do that. Damn who is this guy anyway. We need to teach
>him English so we can pump him for information.


Your Dutch is very good! ;-)


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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 13:05:54
Message: <36ed4c02.0@news.povray.org>
Pedro Graterol schrieb in Nachricht <36ed3e25.0@news.povray.org>...

Govert. Lees dit alsjeblieft (een stuk verder naar beneden).

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>Your work is very promising and interesting, I think your images deserve a
>lot of study. However, I have a complaint. Your html is very, very
>heavy, -my browser simply refused to work properly twice-. I do not know if
>is the Javascript -I doubt it-.
>I think that it can be that you have a lot of images in only one html
page.,
>if you break them the readability will improve a lot. On the other hand,
>although in a language unknown for me, I appreciate you used a kind of
>understandable key words very common in POV, they serve as a path to
>apprehend your work, including the POV-master. Thanks again for providing
>some inc codes, even though I did not download for the reason stated above.


I had the same problems. I was asked to translate the texts on his homepage
(Dutch to English), but I had big problems scrolling through it. It took
minutes to show even parts of it. So I gave up.

Perhaps I'll translate your post to Govert (I think he'll read this):

---------------------------

Govert, als je dit leest, Marjorie Graterol heeft geschreven:

"Je werk is erg veelbelovend en interessant an ik denk dat je plaatjes een
hoop onderzoek verdienen. Helaas, ik heb een klacht. Je HTML is erg, erg
zwaar, - mijn browser wijgerde simpelweg tweemaal zijn dienst -. Ik weet
niet of het het Javascript is - ik betwijfel het -.

pagina hebt.
Als je ze opdeelt zal zich de leesbaarheid een hoop verbeteren. Anderzijds,
alhoewel (je het doet) in een taal die me onbekend is, ik waardeer dat je
een soort verstaanbare sleutelbegrippen gebruikt, die in POV veel voorkomen,
ze dienen als een weg om je werk te verstaan, inclusief de POV-master. Noch
eens bedankt voor het aanbieden van enige inc codes, alhoewel ik ze niet
gedownload heb, om de bovenstaande redens."

Ik deel haar mening. Je homepage is een van de interssantste reet-racing
(:-) pagina's die ik in de laatste tijd gezien heb. Je ideeen en projekten
zijn het aanzien waard, maar je homepage is ook een van de slechtst
leesbare. Ik weet niet waaraan dat ligt, maar het duurt minuten om slechts
een klein deel van je homepage te laden, en als ik scrollen wil, begint de
marteling van begin af aan.

Als je problemen hebt met Engels, laat het me weten, ik ben graag bereid je
bij enkele vertalingen te helpen. Ik vermoed (weet) dat veel deelnemers aan
de newsgroup wat van je zouden willen horen.

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From: Pedro Graterol
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 14:34:23
Message: <36ed60bf.0@news.povray.org>
Rudy Velthuis wrote in message <36ed4c02.0@news.povray.org>...

>I had the same problems. I was asked to translate the texts on his homepage
>(Dutch to English), but I had big problems scrolling through it. It took
>minutes to show even parts of it. So I gave up.
>
>Perhaps I'll translate your post to Govert (I think he'll read this):
>


Well, I'll add some more two cents, even though I know this is not the main
topic.  This guy has a superb work and will be very helpful to many people,
beginning with me! :-)

- A very "safe"  size/per html  is 50K, but graphically speaking, that's
unreal.  70K is a good goal, just to keep in mind those folks with slower
machines or connections.
-Check the background image.  To repeat -and upload- fast it has to be the
smaller, the better., let's say  4 to 7K. If it is jpeg, try to reduce its
file size.  Think about another color to set while the background is
loading, so your white letters can be seen.
-Since browsers load the whole tables first, provide height and width with
each image. They will appear faster.
-And finally, but not least, try dividing into several htmls.  They can keep
the same look and feel and will be -surely- visited.

Regards,
Marjorie Graterol


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: W
Date: 15 Mar 1999 22:00:44
Message: <36EDC9D4.6F531D81@pacbell.net>
Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> 
> Ken schrieb in Nachricht <36ED06BD.CA994867@pacbell.net>...
> 
> >  "Dit is een erg goed beeld en het werk dat je doet is heel goed."
> >
> >
> >  Wish I could do that. Damn who is this guy anyway. We need to teach
> >him English so we can pump him for information.
> 
> Your Dutch is very good! ;-)

  Why thank you. I had a good tutor. ;^ }

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From: Markus Becker
Subject: Re: W
Date: 24 Mar 1999 07:42:56
Message: <36F8DE5B.A01049F7@zess.uni-siegen.de>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Govert Zoethout wrote:
>   "Dit is een erg goed beeld en het werk dat je doet is heel goed."
> 
>   Wish I could do that. Damn who is this guy anyway. We need to teach
> him English so we can pump him for information.

Doesn't babelfish do dutch yet?

Markus
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