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From: Woody
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Jan 2009 11:55:03
Message: <web.497c993b390cc5e349b4acd50@news.povray.org>
> >I consider myself a hippie of "the next generation"
>
> A New Age Traveler? :P

A traveler yes, "new age" maybe not. Just trying not to chase after money, and
follow "the way".


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Jan 2009 13:05:01
Message: <web.497ca82f390cc5e33c6235530@news.povray.org>
"Woody" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> I prefer the "Dog Betters Dog" perspective.

That don't work. Dog can't better dog. Dog can only better itself, and hope that
other dog will do likewise. That is, unless dog threaten to eat dog if they
refuse to be bettered - but then again that doesn't really better dog, but just
make dog afraid of dog, at best.

Dog can *help* dog to better themselves, though. If dog is willing to be helped.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Jan 2009 14:41:14
Message: <497cc05a$1@news.povray.org>
Woody wrote:
> At what point do you say that the commerical entity's version is no
> longer a derived work? That's more difficult to say.

That's pretty well-established in USA law. It's a derivative work if you 
copied the original and then changed it. It's not a derivative if you 
started without the original. Even if the two yield the same results.

> If I had no idea how PNG files were read and written, and then after using say a
> GPL program that did this, I came up with completely different algorithms for
> reading and writing in the PNG format. Even though the code is completely
> different is it new?

Yes, if you didn't base it on the code from the GPLed library.  Even if it's 
an instruction-for-instruction duplicate of the code in the GPLed library.
(That's one of the differences between copyrights and patents.)

IANAL.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 26 Jan 2009 04:40:12
Message: <h61rn4h8cip1lsuvjmetouc4lio686ddgh@4ax.com>
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:54:19 EST, "Woody" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>
>> >I consider myself a hippie of "the next generation"
>>
>> A New Age Traveler? :P
>
>A traveler yes, 

That raises the question, "a fellow traveller"? :P

>"new age" maybe not. Just trying not to chase after money, and
>follow "the way".
>

Phew! :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Woody
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 1 Feb 2009 20:05:01
Message: <web.49864653390cc5e3a5297cae0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:54:19 EST, "Woody" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >I consider myself a hippie of "the next generation"
> >>
> >> A New Age Traveler? :P
> >
> >A traveler yes,
>
> That raises the question, "a fellow traveller"? :P
>
> >"new age" maybe not. Just trying not to chase after money, and
> >follow "the way".
> >
>
> Phew! :)
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

A fellow of what? A fellow of the society of actuaries? Not Yet. A traveller of
the cosmic journey?


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From: Woody
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 1 Feb 2009 20:10:00
Message: <web.49864719390cc5e3a5297cae0@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Woody wrote:
> > At what point do you say that the commerical entity's version is no
> > longer a derived work? That's more difficult to say.
>
> That's pretty well-established in USA law. It's a derivative work if you
> copied the original and then changed it. It's not a derivative if you
> started without the original. Even if the two yield the same results.
>
> > If I had no idea how PNG files were read and written, and then after using say a
> > GPL program that did this, I came up with completely different algorithms for
> > reading and writing in the PNG format. Even though the code is completely
> > different is it new?
>
> Yes, if you didn't base it on the code from the GPLed library.  Even if it's
> an instruction-for-instruction duplicate of the code in the GPLed library.
> (That's one of the differences between copyrights and patents.)
>
> IANAL.
>
> --
>    Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
>    "Ouch ouch ouch!"
>    "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
>    "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

Thank you for clarifying. The only thing I know about copyright law is never use
any software that requires a license key unless you pay for it (from the
software maker that is). TO keep it simple I just don't use any software that
requires a license key.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Saturday night doodle. - Buddha01c1_.jpg (0/1)
Date: 2 Feb 2009 14:50:33
Message: <pijeo49hspviclv0e2qhlpkkmv9lkut2kb@4ax.com>
On Sun,  1 Feb 2009 20:03:15 EST, "Woody" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>
>A fellow of what? A fellow of the society of actuaries? Not Yet. A traveller of
>the cosmic journey?

Maybe it is best forgotten :)
In certain times and places it was no complement to some.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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