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This is a picture I did not too long ago, exploring the
possibilities of povray macros (ex, for tiling of the dome, for
making towers). This is the only picture where I've even
gotten a heightfield to look good.
Pete
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What a fun little render!
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Pete wrote:
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> This is a picture I did not too long ago, exploring the
> possibilities of povray macros (ex, for tiling of the dome, for
> making towers). This is the only picture where I've even
> gotten a heightfield to look good.
>
> Pete
>
The dome tiling looks good, but i don't really like the red planet's color.
BTW, what program did you use to generate the heightfield ?
Christoph
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Pretty neat. However, a glow around the lights with no atmosphere? Plus
they are washed out looking. And maybe the shadows should have been nearly
black. Or is that a misconception?
The moon surface looks good, and I like the planet. Some interaction
between ground and domes might make them seem less separated.
Bob
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In article <39b0d1b6$1@news.povray.org>, "Bob Hughes"
<per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote:
> Pretty neat. However, a glow around the lights with no atmosphere?
That was my first thought...but look at the planet this moon is
orbiting: a gas giant, certainly not Earth. Maybe this moon does have an
atmosphere.
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Chris Huff wrote:
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> That was my first thought...but look at the planet this moon is
> orbiting: a gas giant, certainly not Earth. Maybe this moon does have an
> atmosphere.
>
But then the sky should not be totally black (at least some color near the
horizon if it's only a thin atmosphere).
Christoph
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In article <39B0E94F.E3A85D6A@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de>,
chr### [at] gmxde wrote:
> But then the sky should not be totally black (at least some color near the
> horizon if it's only a thin atmosphere).
Not at night. :-)
Or even at daytime, if the atmosphere is thin, sunlight is dim, and the
planetoid is small. The atmospheric scattering may only be visible when
looking nearly directly at the sun or other light source.
And besides, maybe a spacecraft just landed and the dust is still
settling, and that is what causes the halos.
Anyway, I would like to know how the glow effect was done...emitting
media spheres? Or scattering media? Or has someone else added Marcos
Fajardo's glowing light sources patch to a newer version of POV?
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hmmm, the domes, look, well, to much like perfect domes..
try adding a normal to them to make them look at little less perfect
Rick
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On 31 Aug 2000 20:25:44 -0500, Pete wrote:
>If your are able to read this, your reader is not MIME compliant.
>Use Metamail or a MIME aware reader to view the message properly.
If I need someone to tell me what software I should be using I'll
let you know.
>--p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I
>Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> This is a picture I did not too long ago, exploring the
>possibilities of povray macros (ex, for tiling of the dome, for
>making towers). This is the only picture where I've even
>gotten a heightfield to look good.
This looks gook, reminds me of Frontier Elite II.
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Bob wrote:
>Pretty neat. However, a glow around the lights with no atmosphere? Plus
You're totally right. I *never* thought about that. I just
added the glow because it looked neat.
>they are washed out looking. And maybe the shadows should have been nearly
>black. Or is that a misconception?
If you mean dim when you say "Washed out", then I'll agree. I
really have difficulty with media to work ( BTW I use standard povray,
as I port my pov code between Amiga & Windows versions).
>The moon surface looks good, and I like the planet. Some interaction
>between ground and domes might make them seem less separated.
>Bob
Thanks!
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Christoph wrote ...
>The dome tiling looks good, but i don't really like the red planet's color.
Thanks: the dome tiling is a macro.
Red is a difficult color to work with. Hmm ... maybe
blue ... that always looks good.
>BTW, what program did you use to generate the heightfield ?
Standard Official Povray 3.1, outputting a 24-bit TGA
containing 16-bit data. I use the spherical pigment with
a color map (clear to white to clear) to make the rim of the
crater. That looks way too regular, so under that pigment I
have a bozo pigment. The interaction of the two layers is
like the photoshop "multiply" mode. (in other words, the
sphere pigment masks out the bozo into a crater shape)
Peter
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Chris huff wrote ...
>In article <39B0E94F.E3A85D6A@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de>,
>chr### [at] gmxde wrote:
>> But then the sky should not be totally black (at least some color near the
>> horizon if it's only a thin atmosphere).
>Not at night. :-)
>Or even at daytime, if the atmosphere is thin, sunlight is dim, and the
>planetoid is small. The atmospheric scattering may only be visible when
>looking nearly directly at the sun or other light source.
>And besides, maybe a spacecraft just landed and the dust is still
>settling, and that is what causes the halos.
Dust, errr, um, yeah, that's it. :-)
Seriously, I'de intended an airless moon, but I hadn't
realized that the glow around the lights would be impossible
in a vacuum. My mistake.
>Anyway, I would like to know how the glow effect was done...emitting
>media spheres? Or scattering media? Or has someone else added Marcos
>Fajardo's glowing light sources patch to a newer version of POV?
I think too many people jump to the "it must be a patched
version of pov" conclusion when they look at a render. I don't mess
around with unofficial unsupported nonstandard hacks of povray. The
glow is just an emitting media on a clear (hollow) sphere, in
regular PovRay 3.1.
Pete
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Rick wrote ...
>hmmm, the domes, look, well, to much like perfect domes..
Heheh. The constant dilema of the ratracer ...
make it mathematically perfect because you can, or add some
disorder/imperfection to make it "realistic".
>try adding a normal to them to make them look at little less perfect
What I'de really like to do is find/write a good
hull plate macro (the look you see in all ships in the first
star wars movie, the one later retitled as "episode four").
Pete
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Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has always
been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled. :)
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"Pete" <Pet### [at] nymaliasnet> wrote in message
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> What I'de really like to do is find/write a good
> hull plate macro (the look you see in all ships in the first
> star wars movie, the one later retitled as "episode four").
>
>
> Pete
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Paul Vanukoff wrote:
> Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has always
> been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled. :)
Yup, 'cuz they're based off a book series. AFAIK it goes up to nine...
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So that leaves three *more* movies? Do you suppose they'll wait another 20
years before they make them?
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> Paul Vanukoff wrote:
>
> > Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has
always
> > been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled.
:)
>
> Yup, 'cuz they're based off a book series. AFAIK it goes up to nine...
>
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> Please visit my website: http://davidf.faricy.net/
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Ian Witham wrote:
> So that leaves three *more* movies? Do you suppose they'll wait another 20
> years before they make them?
It's their marketing technique.
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Paul Vanukoff wrote ... (regarding the titling of the first
Star Wars movie)
>Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has always
>been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled. :)
--
After reading your post, I decided to do a little research.
I couldn't refer to the actual movie, since my copy is the one with
all the 1990's computer effects added to the original 1977 film.
Then I remembered that I had a book published in 1979 (The Art of
Star Wars) which has the complete text of the script for the movie.
The book was published before all the enhancements and before the
next two movies were filmed. So the book is old enough to be
used as a reliable reference.
The first five lines of the title page of the script says:
Star Wars
Episode IV
A New Hope
from the
Journal of the Wills
by George Lucas
Wow!
Interesting, and not what I had remembered. This supports
the idea that Lucas had intended from the beginning to make it a
multi-part series. He didn't just shoot off one movie and then
decide to "invent" prequall movies after seeing the profits of the
first movie.
But I still don't know that the original release of the
movie actually printed "episode IV" in the beginning scrolly
text intro. I'de love to find a shot of the opening title from the
"original" (1977) release of the movie.
And I wonder what the Journal of the Wills could be?
Err, umm, getting back on topic ... or at least to
something remotely pov-ish ...
...
In The Star Wars Sketchbook, I read that the surface
details of the Death Star (except for those towers with the gun
turrets on them) were assembled from multiple copies of only
six shapes. Sounds like a process that could be POV-able, eh?
Six meshes, tiled using macros and some rand() calls ... kewel.
Pete
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Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New Hope". I
can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the heck?".
And then the interviews with Lucas talking about the starting with the middle
trilogy since it was the most interesting one.
Steve M.
Pete wrote:
> Paul Vanukoff wrote ... (regarding the titling of the first
> Star Wars movie)
>
> >Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has always
> >been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled. :)
>
> --
>
> After reading your post, I decided to do a little research.
> I couldn't refer to the actual movie, since my copy is the one with
> all the 1990's computer effects added to the original 1977 film.
> Then I remembered that I had a book published in 1979 (The Art of
> Star Wars) which has the complete text of the script for the movie.
> The book was published before all the enhancements and before the
> next two movies were filmed. So the book is old enough to be
> used as a reliable reference.
> The first five lines of the title page of the script says:
>
> Star Wars
> Episode IV
> A New Hope
> from the
> Journal of the Wills
> by George Lucas
>
> Wow!
> Interesting, and not what I had remembered. This supports
> the idea that Lucas had intended from the beginning to make it a
> multi-part series. He didn't just shoot off one movie and then
> decide to "invent" prequall movies after seeing the profits of the
> first movie.
> But I still don't know that the original release of the
> movie actually printed "episode IV" in the beginning scrolly
> text intro. I'de love to find a shot of the opening title from the
> "original" (1977) release of the movie.
> And I wonder what the Journal of the Wills could be?
>
> Err, umm, getting back on topic ... or at least to
> something remotely pov-ish ...
> ...
> In The Star Wars Sketchbook, I read that the surface
> details of the Death Star (except for those towers with the gun
> turrets on them) were assembled from multiple copies of only
> six shapes. Sounds like a process that could be POV-able, eh?
> Six meshes, tiled using macros and some rand() calls ... kewel.
>
> Pete
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"Steven Marshall" <sma### [at] alummitedu> wrote in message
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> Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New
Hope". I
> can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the
heck?".
I spent a lot of time back then telling folk that there would be a total
of 12, three previous and eight after.
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
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> "Steven Marshall" <sma### [at] alummitedu> wrote in message
> news:3A418038.D8F23380@alum.mit.edu...
> > Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New
> Hope". I
> > can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the
> heck?".
Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.
Ken Matassa
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"Ken Matassa" <kma### [at] pacbellnet> wrote :
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> Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
> opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
> Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.
I -never- see a movie when it first comes out. I hate crowds, lines,
jabbering and the smell of mobs.
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Ken Matassa wrote:
>Bill DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> "Steven Marshall" <sma### [at] alummitedu> wrote in message
>> news:3A418038.D8F23380@alum.mit.edu...
>> > Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New
>> Hope". I
>> > can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the
>> heck?".
>Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
>opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
>Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.
>Ken Matassa
Ken: thanks for backing me up. So often it seems I am the only
one to notice when things get edited or changed, then everyone else
thinks that things were always the way they are. Heck, before your
posting I was wondering if I had been slipped sideways into an
alternate universe or something.
Pete
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"Pete" <Pet### [at] nymaliasnet> wrote :
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> >Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
> >opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
> >Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.
>
> >Ken Matassa
>
> Ken: thanks for backing me up.
Actually, re-reading Ken's post in your reply, I noticed the "summer"
that I must have missed before. I don't remember the season that I saw it
in, but I saw it only a week or two after I first heard of it being shown.
Maybe different versions got released in different places? Because I
certainly remember talking about the "IV" on the way out of the theatre.
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I saw it in a downtown Seattle WA theatre and had always thought it did say
Episode IV. Not that my memory is good enough to recall that correctly.
Jackets were worn but it was night time and summer in the NW was never long or
too warm at night. And I do remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the
block, ended up close to the front for the segment I got in with. Only other
movie I went to that was like that was the first Batman one in Huntsville AL
but I'm not one to try and see first run films either.
Bob H.
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>
> Maybe different versions got released in different places? Because I
> certainly remember talking about the "IV" on the way out of the theatre.
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