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In article <p63i40lg0jn2qa2jaog4e4l8tbdfq222sq@4ax.com> , IMBJR
<no### [at] spam here> wrote:
> By the way, is it my imagination or is there more format leeway on the
> animation gorup
Your observation is correct. The main reason is that even the extended
MPEG-1 animations frequently "bend" the MPEG-1 standard so much, they cannot
be viewed everywhere and always without problems. So there is little point
in sticking to that format, and usually the choice of codec is dominated by
the kind of animation and the desired audience. Of course you could also
post in main profile MPEG-2 format, but then you could only get a few
seconds of animation posted...
Thorsten
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Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 04:03:44 -0700, "Jason F. Kowalski"
> >"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote
> >What's the point of posting in JPEG2000?
> In this case, preservation of the 16-bit output of POV.
Since most video cards (not to mention LCDs) cannot display that, what's the
point (unless it's a height map or somesuch intermediate data) ?
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"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote
> Different strokes yadda yadda. If you can see it, fine - if you
> cannot, fine.
Fine. I don't wish to download images you don't want me to see. *plonk*
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IMBJR wrote:
> Whilst I appreciate the idea behind reposting the image in standard
> JPEG format, you have only succeeded in introducing artifacts and a
> drop in colour-depth. The end result is a defacing of my original
> posting.
>
> Please don't do this in the future. How would you like it if I took
> your postings and reposted then as 4 colour GIFs or worse?
>
> --------------------------------
> My First Subgenius Picture Book:
> http://www.imbjr.com
I assume this one:
http://www.imbjr.freeserve.co.uk/book/art/marbles.jpg
is the approved traditional jpeg? (it's linked from the URL you posted)
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:13:59 -0700, "Jason F. Kowalski"
<jfk### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 04:03:44 -0700, "Jason F. Kowalski"
>
>> >"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote
>> >What's the point of posting in JPEG2000?
>
>> In this case, preservation of the 16-bit output of POV.
>
>Since most video cards (not to mention LCDs) cannot display that, what's the
>point (unless it's a height map or somesuch intermediate data) ?
>
Preservation of the output of POV-Ray is the point, plus an attempt to
avoid gradient banding. However, this is all at the mercy of the
receiving end.
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My First Subgenius Picture Book:
http://www.imbjr.com
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:22:06 -0700, "Jason F. Kowalski"
<jfk### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote
>
>> Different strokes yadda yadda. If you can see it, fine - if you
>> cannot, fine.
>
>Fine. I don't wish to download images you don't want me to see. *plonk*
Go on, hide under a shell. We shall pass you by and laugh at the
person who couldn't be bothered with keeping up with developments in
graphics.
>
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My First Subgenius Picture Book:
http://www.imbjr.com
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 04:19:13 -0800, Ron Mayer
<rm_### [at] cheapcomplexdevicescom> wrote:
>IMBJR wrote:
>> Whilst I appreciate the idea behind reposting the image in standard
>> JPEG format, you have only succeeded in introducing artifacts and a
>> drop in colour-depth. The end result is a defacing of my original
>> posting.
>>
>> Please don't do this in the future. How would you like it if I took
>> your postings and reposted then as 4 colour GIFs or worse?
>>
>> --------------------------------
>> My First Subgenius Picture Book:
>> http://www.imbjr.com
>
>I assume this one:
> http://www.imbjr.freeserve.co.uk/book/art/marbles.jpg
>is the approved traditional jpeg? (it's linked from the URL you posted)
Sort of, but that's been editted for website usage - hence the
preservation of the book seam in the middle.
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My First Subgenius Picture Book:
http://www.imbjr.com
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"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
news:b99k4014usj4o1eam949s1raru8ni81cpn@4ax.com...
> Go on, hide under a shell. We shall pass you by and laugh at the
> person who couldn't be bothered with keeping up with developments in
> graphics.
>
Sorry to inform you, but when I want high quality graphics, I use 4800 X
3200 bitmaps. Quite obviously, I don't post them. If I'm going to post
something, it's converted to .jpg, not something that half of the people I
want to send it to can't read. When IE in this kludge of a windoze box I'm
running can't recognize that there's an attachment there, you might as well
send the jpeg2000 to yourself.
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:26:27 +0000, IMBJR wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:06:32 -0600, "Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
>>news:3eoh40p2s9jd1t8o03thoj1iv5i4jo12b0@4ax.com...
>>
>
> Whoopie.
>
> You know very well as to what I was referring to. Have enough courtesy
> to not to do it again.
Please have the courtesy to post a format we CAN ACTUALLY VIEW.
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:33:03 -0500, Tyler Eaves <tyl### [at] NOSPAMml1net>
wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:26:27 +0000, IMBJR wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:06:32 -0600, "Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
>>>news:3eoh40p2s9jd1t8o03thoj1iv5i4jo12b0@4ax.com...
>>>
>>
>> Whoopie.
>>
>> You know very well as to what I was referring to. Have enough courtesy
>> to not to do it again.
>
>Please have the courtesy to post a format we CAN ACTUALLY VIEW.
You are late in the game, this has aready been dealt with. Get the
facts in first before you splutter.
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My First Subgenius Picture Book:
http://www.imbjr.com
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