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A quick Poser Wolf converted to Pov inc by PoseRay
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Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> A quick Poser Wolf converted to Pov inc by PoseRay
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> Regards
> Stephen
This is in reference to the original thread about the fox: Attached is the
unposed, untextured, WIP in wings. I'm not sure I have the proportions right,
but not too bad for an afternoon of work.
Stephen I've never used poser, what is it like for rigging existing models? Is
the export process convoluted?
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:46:05 EDT, "Reactor" <rea### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
>Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>> A quick Poser Wolf converted to Pov inc by PoseRay
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>> Regards
>> Stephen
>
>This is in reference to the original thread about the fox: Attached is the
>unposed, untextured, WIP in wings. I'm not sure I have the proportions right,
>but not too bad for an afternoon of work.
>
Pretty good IMO. It looks like a fox.
>Stephen I've never used poser, what is it like for rigging existing models?
You can't do any mesh work using Poser but there are parameter dials for various
features of a Poser body. E.g change the size of the ears/mouth/eyes, get then
to point in different directions etc.
You can also use "deformers" such as magnets.
>Is the export process convoluted?
No, it is quite easy to export a Poser model to various mesh formats. I
generally use OBJ with its UV mapping and bump mapping.
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I've always wanted to use Poser to get my LDraw minifigs moving. Just
never found the time.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:49:13 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>A quick Poser Wolf converted to Pov inc by PoseRay
I managed to find the Poser file I wanted. Here is a quick scene to give an idea
of the model. It is very poseable (?) but I'm not too sure what a menacing
posture is, for a fox. I am not a country boy :)
I converted to PovRay format with PoseRay and the zipped (rar) file with
textures is 1.8 Meg if you want it.
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:51:04 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
Next Version Rendered in Poser.
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:10:44 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:51:04 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
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>Next Version Rendered in Poser.
The same pose with the mouth open.
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:49:13 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
A New Pose
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Stephen wrote:
> A New Pose
Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:09:56 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> A New Pose
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> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
Another couple of poses.
Although I think the tail should be up if it is aggressive.
http://www.ljplus.ru/img2/p/y/pycaky/Chasing-A-Snack-Red-Fox.jpg
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:57:52 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:09:56 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
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>>Stephen wrote:
>>> A New Pose
>>
>> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>>http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
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>
>Another couple of poses.
>
Drat! The attachment button is too near the send button in this newsreader. :(
I'm beginning to loose impartiality it is looking more like the cat it is baded
on not a dog.
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I think it's leaning too much back. Predators lean more forward when
they are ready to attack. That looks like an overly defensive posture,
if not even scared.
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Stephen a écrit :
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:49:13 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>
>> A quick Poser Wolf converted to Pov inc by PoseRay
>
> I managed to find the Poser file I wanted. Here is a quick scene to give an idea
> of the model. It is very poseable (?) but I'm not too sure what a menacing
> posture is, for a fox. I am not a country boy :)
> I converted to PovRay format with PoseRay and the zipped (rar) file with
> textures is 1.8 Meg if you want it.
>
Very similar to that of a dog. They are cousins after all.
Mouth open, lips pulled up, ears lowered and to the back, legs somewhat
tetracted and ready to pounce, usualy, looking straight at what it's
menassing.
Alain
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Stephen a écrit :
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:49:13 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
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> A New Pose
>
It looks ready to play. The ears are straight up.
Alain
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:54:52 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> I think it's leaning too much back. Predators lean more forward when
>they are ready to attack. That looks like an overly defensive posture,
>if not even scared.
Sorry the photo you linked to showed a dog crouching. I thought that was you
wanted.
If you don't want to give away your idea email me with more details please.
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Stephen a écrit :
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:09:56 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
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>> Stephen wrote:
>>> A New Pose
>> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
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>
> Another couple of poses.
>
> Although I think the tail should be up if it is aggressive.
>
> http://www.ljplus.ru/img2/p/y/pycaky/Chasing-A-Snack-Red-Fox.jpg
That fox chacing a mouse is not agressive. He don't need to be agressive
in this case, just quick!
Most canines, when agressive are stationary, mouth somewhat open, not
fully open, thong totaly inside the mouth, lips pulled to beter show the
theet, legs retracted and in a position to beter pounce on the opponent,
ears down and back so that they are less exposed, tail straight and low
or horizontal.
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:43:41 -0400, Alain <aze### [at] qwertyorg> wrote:
>Stephen a écrit :
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:49:13 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
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>> A New Pose
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>
>It looks ready to play. The ears are straight up.
>
>
I've not had a dog for over 30 years :(
The modle is based on a cat's body and I think it shows a bit.
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Stephen wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:54:52 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>
>> I think it's leaning too much back. Predators lean more forward when
>> they are ready to attack. That looks like an overly defensive posture,
>> if not even scared.
>
> Sorry the photo you linked to showed a dog crouching. I thought that was you
> wanted.
It is what I wanted. Compare the legs of the dog in the photo and the
legs in your fox image. The fox is almost laying down, rather than
crouching, ready to attack.
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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
> > A New Pose
>
> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
The dog is alert, but not in attack posture. The key is largely the ears:
forward for calm, out to the sides for alert, and flattened back for
aggressive. Anyway, those are nifty models! Are they yours? If so, are you
considering adding them to the object collection?
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Reactor wrote:
> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>> Stephen wrote:
>>> A New Pose
>> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
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> The dog is alert, but not in attack posture. The key is largely the ears:
> forward for calm, out to the sides for alert, and flattened back for
> aggressive.
The posture in the photo would work great for the image I have in mind.
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:38:26 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:54:52 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's leaning too much back. Predators lean more forward when
>>> they are ready to attack. That looks like an overly defensive posture,
>>> if not even scared.
>>
>> Sorry the photo you linked to showed a dog crouching. I thought that was you
>> wanted.
>
> It is what I wanted. Compare the legs of the dog in the photo and the
>legs in your fox image. The fox is almost laying down, rather than
>crouching, ready to attack.
We continue :)
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:41:14 EDT, "Reactor" <rea### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>> Stephen wrote:
>> > A New Pose
>>
>> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
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>The dog is alert, but not in attack posture. The key is largely the ears:
>forward for calm, out to the sides for alert, and flattened back for
>aggressive. Anyway, those are nifty models! Are they yours? If so, are you
>considering adding them to the object collection?
>
Thanks for the advice. The models are Poser models, I don't really think it
would be appropriate to put them in the object collection. But there is one in
p.b.m and if I can satisfy Warp I'll put that one there too.
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:51:32 -0400, Alain <aze### [at] qwertyorg> wrote:
>Stephen a écrit :
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:09:56 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
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>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>> A New Pose
>>> Hmm, still somehow lacks the same feeling as that dog photo:
>>>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DvFc1bix9Rs/Rc9tP2jUsLI/AAAAAAAAAB0/dzDVQFV7e9g/s320/dog+2.jpg
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>>
>> Another couple of poses.
>>
>> Although I think the tail should be up if it is aggressive.
>>
>> http://www.ljplus.ru/img2/p/y/pycaky/Chasing-A-Snack-Red-Fox.jpg
>
>That fox chacing a mouse is not agressive. He don't need to be agressive
>in this case, just quick!
>
How true, but the mouse! Reminds me of the defiance cartoon below.(I don't think
that's the original one)
>Most canines, when agressive are stationary, mouth somewhat open, not
>fully open, thong totaly inside the mouth, lips pulled to beter show the
>theet, legs retracted and in a position to beter pounce on the opponent,
>ears down and back so that they are less exposed, tail straight and low
>or horizontal.
>
>
I'm having trouble with the stance, a bit. Also there is no parameter dial for a
snarl. Even if there were, you would then see that the model's teeth are feline
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The ears were better before, and now the fox is not crouching at all.
I still think you should try to get the pose in that dog photo as
closely as possible. Notice the front legs right below the head, the
head being down compared to the body, ears up.
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
news:t5ui95pmlnpk6dtj5ja6ftlguc1imkc6dp@4ax.com...
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> I've not had a dog for over 30 years :(
> The modle is based on a cat's body and I think it shows a bit.
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lol, yes I guess you are right.
Remember my image "Cathy's World: on the streets"? there were a couple of
menacing wolfs there. Foxes would probably react identically. There is imo,
a difference in attitude between a predator ready to pounce on a victim and
one aggressive to another predator. In the first case, the ears will point
forwards to hear in addition to see the victim, in the second case the ears
lie flat back. Also, the attitude should be with the head in line with the
body in the first case (the better to jump). In the second case that would
depend on the action under way. When fighting, the sideways presenting of
the body is done for making oneself bigger (cats are good at that) but other
attitudes may also be used.
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Warp wrote:
> The ears were better before, and now the fox is not crouching at all.
> I still think you should try to get the pose in that dog photo as
> closely as possible. Notice the front legs right below the head, the
> head being down compared to the body, ears up.
Just put both photos side-by-side and compare the poses. They are
completely different.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:05:35 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> The ears were better before, and now the fox is not crouching at all.
>I still think you should try to get the pose in that dog photo as
>closely as possible. Notice the front legs right below the head, the
>head being down compared to the body, ears up.
Right, I'll put the ears back.
What sort of emotion (which comes with the stance) should the fox be showing?
I think that photo is of a sheepdog who looks intent on controlling sheep. Not
at all aggressive IMO. It is a pity that there is not one from the side.
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Remember my image "Cathy's World: on the streets"? there were a couple of
> menacing wolfs there. Foxes would probably react identically. There is imo,
> a difference in attitude between a predator ready to pounce on a victim and
> one aggressive to another predator. In the first case, the ears will point
> forwards to hear in addition to see the victim, in the second case the ears
> lie flat back. Also, the attitude should be with the head in line with the
> body in the first case (the better to jump). In the second case that would
> depend on the action under way. When fighting, the sideways presenting of
> the body is done for making oneself bigger (cats are good at that) but other
> attitudes may also be used.
I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain attitude of the
animal. The pose of the dog in that photo is basically exactly what I'm
looking for, regardless of what is going in inside the brain of the dog.
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Stephen wrote:
> Right, I'll put the ears back.
> What sort of emotion (which comes with the stance) should the fox be showing?
> I think that photo is of a sheepdog who looks intent on controlling sheep. Not
> at all aggressive IMO. It is a pity that there is not one from the side.
I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain emotion. The "ready
to attack" was just the closest expression I could come up with.
The dog photo is basically what I want.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:12:06 +0200, "Thomas de Groot"
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>Remember my image "Cathy's World: on the streets"? there were a couple of
>menacing wolfs there. Foxes would probably react identically. There is imo,
>a difference in attitude between a predator ready to pounce on a victim and
>one aggressive to another predator. In the first case, the ears will point
>forwards to hear in addition to see the victim, in the second case the ears
>lie flat back. Also, the attitude should be with the head in line with the
>body in the first case (the better to jump). In the second case that would
>depend on the action under way. When fighting, the sideways presenting of
>the body is done for making oneself bigger (cats are good at that) but other
>attitudes may also be used.
That is my problem. The sheep dog in Warp's photo is keeping low so not to spook
the sheep until it needs to go into action. (That famous UK TV series "One man
and his dog")
Warp says that he wants a menacing pose. I'm not too sure what though :(
It's not too difficult to read animal posture but writing it is harder :)
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:18:31 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain attitude of the
>animal. The pose of the dog in that photo is basically exactly what I'm
>looking for, regardless of what is going in inside the brain of the dog.
Right! I'll stop thinking and go for the pose ;)
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:19:51 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> Right, I'll put the ears back.
>> What sort of emotion (which comes with the stance) should the fox be showing?
>> I think that photo is of a sheepdog who looks intent on controlling sheep. Not
>> at all aggressive IMO. It is a pity that there is not one from the side.
>
> I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain emotion. The "ready
>to attack" was just the closest expression I could come up with.
>
> The dog photo is basically what I want.
Is this going in the right direction?
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:36:59 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:19:51 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>> The dog photo is basically what I want.
>
>Is this going in the right direction?
Two more (standard) poses
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Stephen wrote:
> Is this going in the right direction?
Now he is stretching.
Just try to emulate the photo.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:02:26 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Just try to emulate the photo.
It is not easy you know ;)
How about the two standard cat poses? If they are nearer to what you want I can
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Stephen wrote:
> How about the two standard cat poses? If they are nearer to what you want I can
> modify them.
I suppose the second one is closer.
I'm just not understanding what is unclear about what is it that I
want. I just want the same pose as in that dog photo. If it looks
radically different, it's not what I'm looking for.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:26:28 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> How about the two standard cat poses? If they are nearer to what you want I can
>> modify them.
>
> I suppose the second one is closer.
>
I've gone back a step to the one you said was stretching and tried to copy the
stance in the photo. Is that better?
> I'm just not understanding what is unclear about what is it that I
>want. I just want the same pose as in that dog photo. If it looks
>radically different, it's not what I'm looking for.
I think that there are a couple of things that are in the way of enlightenment
:)
Mostly it is because we are working remotely and you can't point at the screen
and say move that. Secondly I think that you can imagine what the dog looks like
from the side but I only have a vague idea. I need to be able to visualise from
at least three elevations. Poser is quite exacting and I am no expert. I
generally only use it in a rough and ready manner.
You should think of your requirements the way you would if you were writing a
spec. e.g. Lower the chest, move the right paw back and lift the right shoulder.
Turn the head to the right keeping the line of the eyes parallel to the ground
etc.
I hope that this one is a bit nearer what you want.
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Stephen wrote:
> I hope that this one is a bit nearer what you want.
Yes, this is much closer. Maybe if it looked just a bit more to its
left it would be even better. The tail could be higher (basically the
only difference from the dog photo).
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:20:20 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> I hope that this one is a bit nearer what you want.
>
> Yes, this is much closer. Maybe if it looked just a bit more to its
>left it would be even better. The tail could be higher (basically the
>only difference from the dog photo).
Good, Now the detail, if you want.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:38:18 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>Good, Now the detail, if you want.
Looking down a bit more.
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Well, it's now definitely closer, although not exactly. Well, I
suppose it will have to do. It's not like there's much time left before
the deadline, and I still have to get the composition and lighting done.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:14:49 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Well, it's now definitely closer, although not exactly. Well, I
>suppose it will have to do. It's not like there's much time left before
>the deadline, and I still have to get the composition and lighting done.
>
I've posted the files to p.b.m name of Fox4
I'll re-align the fox to be more in line with the photo.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:33:43 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
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>I'll re-align the fox to be more in line with the photo.
I've posted the files to p.b.m name of Fox6 in zip format. Let me know if you
can get it unpacked.
And good luck
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:06:01 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:38:18 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
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>>Good, Now the detail, if you want.
>
>Looking down a bit more.
I've just done a test render in PovRay and the texture won't stand up to a close
up :(
Also the hind legs look too flat against the body.
I will correct this
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Stephen wrote:
> I've just done a test render in PovRay and the texture won't stand up to a close
> up :(
> Also the hind legs look too flat against the body.
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> I will correct this
The texture is not all that important in my image, and I managed to
make the legs not too visible, so the current version is working
acceptably fine for what I want. I'm using it for the scene.
Thanks for your work.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:46:45 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> I've just done a test render in PovRay and the texture won't stand up to a close
>> up :(
>> Also the hind legs look too flat against the body.
>>
>> I will correct this
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> The texture is not all that important in my image, and I managed to
>make the legs not too visible, so the current version is working
>acceptably fine for what I want. I'm using it for the scene.
>
That's good :D
> Thanks for your work.
The least that I could do for http://warp.povusers.org/povtips/ That tutorial
has been a godsend for me.
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