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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:05:35 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tag povrayorg> wrote:
> The ears were better before, and now the fox is not crouching at all.
>I still think you should try to get the pose in that dog photo as
>closely as possible. Notice the front legs right below the head, the
>head being down compared to the body, ears up.
Right, I'll put the ears back.
What sort of emotion (which comes with the stance) should the fox be showing?
I think that photo is of a sheepdog who looks intent on controlling sheep. Not
at all aggressive IMO. It is a pity that there is not one from the side.
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Remember my image "Cathy's World: on the streets"? there were a couple of
> menacing wolfs there. Foxes would probably react identically. There is imo,
> a difference in attitude between a predator ready to pounce on a victim and
> one aggressive to another predator. In the first case, the ears will point
> forwards to hear in addition to see the victim, in the second case the ears
> lie flat back. Also, the attitude should be with the head in line with the
> body in the first case (the better to jump). In the second case that would
> depend on the action under way. When fighting, the sideways presenting of
> the body is done for making oneself bigger (cats are good at that) but other
> attitudes may also be used.
I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain attitude of the
animal. The pose of the dog in that photo is basically exactly what I'm
looking for, regardless of what is going in inside the brain of the dog.
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Stephen wrote:
> Right, I'll put the ears back.
> What sort of emotion (which comes with the stance) should the fox be showing?
> I think that photo is of a sheepdog who looks intent on controlling sheep. Not
> at all aggressive IMO. It is a pity that there is not one from the side.
I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain emotion. The "ready
to attack" was just the closest expression I could come up with.
The dog photo is basically what I want.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:12:06 +0200, "Thomas de Groot"
<tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
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>Remember my image "Cathy's World: on the streets"? there were a couple of
>menacing wolfs there. Foxes would probably react identically. There is imo,
>a difference in attitude between a predator ready to pounce on a victim and
>one aggressive to another predator. In the first case, the ears will point
>forwards to hear in addition to see the victim, in the second case the ears
>lie flat back. Also, the attitude should be with the head in line with the
>body in the first case (the better to jump). In the second case that would
>depend on the action under way. When fighting, the sideways presenting of
>the body is done for making oneself bigger (cats are good at that) but other
>attitudes may also be used.
That is my problem. The sheep dog in Warp's photo is keeping low so not to spook
the sheep until it needs to go into action. (That famous UK TV series "One man
and his dog")
Warp says that he wants a menacing pose. I'm not too sure what though :(
It's not too difficult to read animal posture but writing it is harder :)
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:18:31 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain attitude of the
>animal. The pose of the dog in that photo is basically exactly what I'm
>looking for, regardless of what is going in inside the brain of the dog.
Right! I'll stop thinking and go for the pose ;)
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Stephen
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:19:51 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
>> Right, I'll put the ears back.
>> What sort of emotion (which comes with the stance) should the fox be showing?
>> I think that photo is of a sheepdog who looks intent on controlling sheep. Not
>> at all aggressive IMO. It is a pity that there is not one from the side.
>
> I'm looking for a certain pose, not for a certain emotion. The "ready
>to attack" was just the closest expression I could come up with.
>
> The dog photo is basically what I want.
Is this going in the right direction?
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:36:59 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:19:51 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>> The dog photo is basically what I want.
>
>Is this going in the right direction?
Two more (standard) poses
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Stephen wrote:
> Is this going in the right direction?
Now he is stretching.
Just try to emulate the photo.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:02:26 +0300, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Just try to emulate the photo.
It is not easy you know ;)
How about the two standard cat poses? If they are nearer to what you want I can
modify them.
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Stephen wrote:
> How about the two standard cat poses? If they are nearer to what you want I can
> modify them.
I suppose the second one is closer.
I'm just not understanding what is unclear about what is it that I
want. I just want the same pose as in that dog photo. If it looks
radically different, it's not what I'm looking for.
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