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So, after 5.5 days of tracing (with subsequent reboots to flush
the RAM), the image is ready. As the deadline is in just
a few days, I won't be able to make any significant changes.
One question though: I don't know if imprint of my signature on the
lower righthand corner is big enough. Anyone think I should
make it larger, or is it just fine (imagine the image printed with a
size of 18x24 cm or such, DIN A4 to be precise)?
So, comments and all very welcome, I'll keep them in mind for future
images, I won't change anything anymore on this one.
And thanks for all the help I got from the newsgroups!
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Some more notes:
Photons (spacing .0005) were saved: 488 MB
-Using Dispersion or lower spacing "fragged" the RAM
Radiosity was saved: 7.83 MB
Peak memory used: 526 MB
Tracing time around 5 days = 120 hours
Image-File is 21.9 MB large.
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Beautiful pic! I've thought of making prints of some of my Pov-Ray pics now
and then, just haven't created one that feels Poster friendly yet. Where are
you having this one printed. Is it for yourself?
> Photons (spacing .0005) were saved: 488 MB
> -Using Dispersion or lower spacing "fragged" the RAM
My god! I can't think of many scenes for which these settings wouldn't be
way overkill. And especially sonsidering the Photons in this picture are a
very subtle feature.
> Tracing time around 5 days = 120 hours
Not bad considering the size and settings.
> Image-File is 21.9 MB large.
Wohoo!:-)
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Well, the size is not the size of the post, its actually
3200x2400, so I can use 300dpi for the print.
I want to print it on a 600dpi Colorlaserprinter, but
I'm not too sure, if that'll work, so it'll probably be
a 300dpi Colorprinter.
Its not for me, its a gift for close friend.
And regarding the photons: overkill? Perhaps. But when
tracing in such an "overkill" size, and assuming that the
print will have an "overkill" dpi, I wanted to make sure to
get the most realism out of the image as I can get. Sure
needs patience for that...
Thomas Lake wrote:
> Beautiful pic! I've thought of making prints of some of my Pov-Ray pics now
> and then, just haven't created one that feels Poster friendly yet. Where are
> you having this one printed. Is it for yourself?
>
> > Photons (spacing .0005) were saved: 488 MB
> > -Using Dispersion or lower spacing "fragged" the RAM
>
> My god! I can't think of many scenes for which these settings wouldn't be
> way overkill. And especially sonsidering the Photons in this picture are a
> very subtle feature.
>
> > Tracing time around 5 days = 120 hours
>
> Not bad considering the size and settings.
>
> > Image-File is 21.9 MB large.
>
> Wohoo!:-)
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From: Sir Charles W Shults III
Subject: Re: Final Gerberas - No more adjustments
Date: 3 May 2002 11:40:04
Message: <3cd2af54@news.povray.org>
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This is a truly fantastic image. IMHO, it will make you a serious
contender for the top position.
Cheers!
Chip Shults
My robotics, space and CGI web page - http://home.cfl.rr.com/aichip
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The glass looks great now. Good work.
--
#local i=.1;#local I=(i/i)/i;#local l=(i+i)/i;#local ll=(I/i)/l;box{<-ll,
-((I/I)+l),-ll><ll,-l,ll>pigment{checker scale l}finish{ambient((I/l)/I)+
(l/I)}}sphere{<i-i,l-l,(I/l)>l/l pigment{rgb((I/l)/I)}finish{reflection((
I/l)/I)-(l/I)specular(I/l)/I}}light_source{<I-l,I+I,(I-l)/l>l/l} // Steve
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Only thing i have to say is change the color of the signature. I can't read
it.
Tim Nikias wrote:
> So, after 5.5 days of tracing (with subsequent reboots to flush
> the RAM), the image is ready. As the deadline is in just
> a few days, I won't be able to make any significant changes.
>
> One question though: I don't know if imprint of my signature on the
> lower righthand corner is big enough. Anyone think I should
> make it larger, or is it just fine (imagine the image printed with a
> size of 18x24 cm or such, DIN A4 to be precise)?
>
> So, comments and all very welcome, I'll keep them in mind for future
> images, I won't change anything anymore on this one.
>
> And thanks for all the help I got from the newsgroups!
>
> --
> Tim Nikias
> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
> Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]
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I wouldn't mind seeing a high quality version of this at full res (because I
like to go "ooooooooh" at things).
But maybe that's just me.
"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3CD272A2.E7D321C7@gmx.de...
> Well, the size is not the size of the post, its actually
> 3200x2400, so I can use 300dpi for the print.
>
> I want to print it on a 600dpi Colorlaserprinter, but
> I'm not too sure, if that'll work, so it'll probably be
> a 300dpi Colorprinter.
> Its not for me, its a gift for close friend.
>
> And regarding the photons: overkill? Perhaps. But when
> tracing in such an "overkill" size, and assuming that the
> print will have an "overkill" dpi, I wanted to make sure to
> get the most realism out of the image as I can get. Sure
> needs patience for that...
>
> Thomas Lake wrote:
>
> > Beautiful pic! I've thought of making prints of some of my Pov-Ray pics
now
> > and then, just haven't created one that feels Poster friendly yet. Where
are
> > you having this one printed. Is it for yourself?
> >
> > > Photons (spacing .0005) were saved: 488 MB
> > > -Using Dispersion or lower spacing "fragged" the RAM
> >
> > My god! I can't think of many scenes for which these settings wouldn't
be
> > way overkill. And especially sonsidering the Photons in this picture are
a
> > very subtle feature.
> >
> > > Tracing time around 5 days = 120 hours
> >
> > Not bad considering the size and settings.
> >
> > > Image-File is 21.9 MB large.
> >
> > Wohoo!:-)
>
> --
> Tim Nikias
> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
> Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
>
>
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"Alastair Murray" <ala### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de
news: 3cd2d123$1@news.povray.org...
> I wouldn't mind seeing a high quality version of this at full res (because
I
> like to go "ooooooooh" at things).
>
> But maybe that's just me.
>
Maybe not :c)
Marc
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Thanks!
Top Position of what? And remember: It took me 2
months to get there...
"Sir Charles W. Shults III" wrote:
> This is a truly fantastic image. IMHO, it will make you a serious
> contender for the top position.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Chip Shults
> My robotics, space and CGI web page - http://home.cfl.rr.com/aichip
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Thank you!
Steve wrote:
> The glass looks great now. Good work.
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The signature doesn't have a color. Its a bump-map applied
to the camera. But on this scale you cannot see it properly
anyway.
Its supposed to be subtle, unnoticeable, but there.
Psychomech wrote:
> Only thing i have to say is change the color of the signature. I can't read
> it.
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Okay, okay!
Be warned! The image is 3200x2400 jpg, with
minimum compression... 1.26 MB
http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/jpg/gerb.jpg
There is no link to it on my webpage (simply because
the image is supposed as a gift and thus should not
be too noticeable by the receiver before her
birthday).
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Thank you and wish her a happy birthday from us :)
Marc
"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> a écrit dans le message de news:
3CD2FF77.CE049C7A@gmx.de...
> Okay, okay!
>
> Be warned! The image is 3200x2400 jpg, with
> minimum compression... 1.26 MB
>
> http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/jpg/gerb.jpg
>
> There is no link to it on my webpage (simply because
> the image is supposed as a gift and thus should not
> be too noticeable by the receiver before her
> birthday).
>
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Well, I will, though I guess she'd be confused...
Marc Jacquier wrote:
> Thank you and wish her a happy birthday from us :)
> Marc
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From: Sir Charles W Shults III
Subject: Re: Final Gerberas - No more adjustments
Date: 3 May 2002 18:31:10
Message: <3cd30fae$1@news.povray.org>
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Oh, well- I thought you were going for the IRTC.
Cheers!
Chip Shults
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Oh. Well, IRTC-Topic right now was Winter,
so two Gerberas in vase doesn't fit too well.
But its a nice thought, I mean, someone expecting
this to be an entry for some contest. Well. It is,
sort of. But not really... Never mind. ;-)
"Sir Charles W. Shults III" wrote:
> Oh, well- I thought you were going for the IRTC.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Chip Shults
> My robotics, space and CGI web page - http://home.cfl.rr.com/aichip
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ok cool..... so that's why i can just barely see it....
Tim Nikias wrote:
> The signature doesn't have a color. Its a bump-map applied
> to the camera. But on this scale you cannot see it properly
> anyway.
> Its supposed to be subtle, unnoticeable, but there.
>
> Psychomech wrote:
>
> > Only thing i have to say is change the color of the signature. I can't read
> > it.
>
> --
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> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
> Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
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From: Txemi Jendrix
Subject: Re: Final Gerberas - No more adjustments
Date: 4 May 2002 21:59:14
Message: <3cd491f2@news.povray.org>
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"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> escribió en el mensaje
news:3CD272A2.E7D321C7@gmx.de...
> Well, the size is not the size of the post, its actually
> 3200x2400, so I can use 300dpi for the print.
>
> I want to print it on a 600dpi Colorlaserprinter, but
> I'm not too sure, if that'll work, so it'll probably be
> a 300dpi Colorprinter.
I remember I printed 2 images I created, one in A3 (39,61 cm x 28,00 cm) and
the other in A2 (48,79 cm x 34,5 cm).
To do so, I rendered them at 4680 x 3308 (A3) and 5763 x 4075 (A2) to obtain
a 300 dpi for the print.
After that, you can always use a 2D program (PS, PSP, Gimp) to make the
image bigger to change form A3 to A2 (if you are bordering the 200 dpi
limit, you'll get also a nice print).
For printing I used a Ink printer (an Epson one) and special paper.
Both images are hanging on my hall's walls right now.
If you are curious enough, they are:
http://www.geocities.com/txemijendrix/imagirtc/05escher.jpg
and
http://www.geocities.com/txemijendrix/imagpov/1bonsai_pc.jpg
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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Final Gerberas - No more adjustments
Date: 5 May 2002 06:09:53
Message: <3CD504C4.D20A7E5@gmx.de>
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If you look at an other thread going on with Thomas Lake,
I've posted a link to the full-size version:
http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/jpg/gerb.jpg
Its 1.2 MB with minimum jpeg-compression and a
resolution of 3200x2400. There you'll be able
to see the signature, and it does work on the
print (on first glance not noticeable, but when looking
closer...)
Psychomech wrote:
> ok cool..... so that's why i can just barely see it....
>
> Tim Nikias wrote:
>
> > The signature doesn't have a color. Its a bump-map applied
> > to the camera. But on this scale you cannot see it properly
> > anyway.
> > Its supposed to be subtle, unnoticeable, but there.
> >
> > Psychomech wrote:
> >
> > > Only thing i have to say is change the color of the signature. I can't read
> > > it.
> >
> > --
> > Tim Nikias
> > Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
> > Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
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Beautiful pic. That red makes me go all peculiar. Last time that
happened was with a bunch of red tulips posted a while back.
Alf
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What do you mean with peculiar? Is it good or bad?
Alf Peake wrote:
> Beautiful pic. That red makes me go all peculiar. Last time that
> happened was with a bunch of red tulips posted a while back.
>
> Alf
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"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3CD5132F.1C9733A1@gmx.de...
> What do you mean with peculiar? Is it good or bad?
Little red dresses (I'm not into black :))
Grabs your eyeballs.
An OK pic.
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Hm. Well, then watch your eyeballs! :-)
Alf Peake wrote:
> "Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
> news:3CD5132F.1C9733A1@gmx.de...
> > What do you mean with peculiar? Is it good or bad?
>
> Little red dresses (I'm not into black :))
> Grabs your eyeballs.
> An OK pic.
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I deleted the giant-scale-image again.
Just wanted the newsgroups to know...
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pity, I was thinking of downloading it and having it printed
on a photoprinter. You know a 300 dpi 24 bits color each pixel
on photographic paper.
Andrel
Tim Nikias wrote:
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> I deleted the giant-scale-image again.
> Just wanted the newsgroups to know...
>
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andrel linnenbank wrote:
> You know a 300 dpi 24 bits color each pixel
> on photographic paper.
A printer that can do 24 bit colour would be excessively
cumbersome; most printers use 2 bit colour (cyan, magenta,
yellow, black). Some high-end printers have some extra
colours such as green, but even those don't even come close
to 24 bit...it's all simulated. Besides, you can find 2400
dpi printers these days for not too much effort.
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"Timothy R. Cook" wrote:
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> andrel linnenbank wrote:
> > You know a 300 dpi 24 bits color each pixel
> > on photographic paper.
>
> A printer that can do 24 bit colour would be excessively
> cumbersome; most printers use 2 bit colour (cyan, magenta,
> yellow, black). Some high-end printers have some extra
> colours such as green, but even those don't even come close
> to 24 bit...it's all simulated. Besides, you can find 2400
> dpi printers these days for not too much effort.
It is not cumbersome, it is just a printer, except that it
will print om photographic paper. put another way it is just
a normal photo (a4 or letter format) no dithering or else
involved. I do have a 2400 dpi color printer myself and it
will produce photo-like pictures as long as you do not look
at it from less the 50cm.
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