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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 11 Jan 2002 19:13:23
Message: <3C3F7F11.B7B60293@hotmail.com>
This is a somewhat modified version of the
image I posted to this group 7. Nov. 2000:

"Toroidal iso-noise => Larger with wrinkles"
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/13131/87784/
news://news.povray.org/3A076749.A8600675%40online.no

This time I have modified both the surface and
the pigment by a function that are controlled
by a "wrinkled" noise.

What do you think of it ?

Is it too noisy now ?


Tor Olav


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 02:25:06
Message: <3c3fe4d2@news.povray.org>
Stunning!

Mick

"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3C3F7F11.B7B60293@hotmail.com...
>
> This is a somewhat modified version of the
> image I posted to this group 7. Nov. 2000:
>
> "Toroidal iso-noise => Larger with wrinkles"
> http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/13131/87784/
> news://news.povray.org/3A076749.A8600675%40online.no
>
> This time I have modified both the surface and
> the pigment by a function that are controlled
> by a "wrinkled" noise.
>
> What do you think of it ?
>
> Is it too noisy now ?
>
>
> Tor Olav


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 04:02:03
Message: <3C3FFB87.F43FE2FE@gmx.de>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> What do you think of it ?
> 
> Is it too noisy now ?
> 

Maybe you should smooth the background with some fog or so.

I have another suggestion, but you won't like it: radiosity. ;-)

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 04:03:24
Message: <3c3ffbdc@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:

> What do you think of it ?


  imply beautiful... now it seems more like a forest (a strange one, tough).
 
> Is it too noisy now ?

  Not really. Great job!

-- 
Jaime Vives Piqueres

La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org


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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 10:55:53
Message: <3c405c89@news.povray.org>
Caves - stalagtites-n-mites; OzLand forest fires; some tunnels you get
in vulcanology.

Beautiful pic as usual from a reliable source ;-)

Alf


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From: Jide
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 11:25:44
Message: <3c406388@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> What do you think of it ?
>
> Is it too noisy now ?
>
>
> Tor Olav

Fantastic.
I also see the surreal forest like Jaime. It almost reminds me of the older
works of Gilles.


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From: Dearmad
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 12 Jan 2002 14:26:11
Message: <3C408F31.83B69DD5@applesnake.net>
no its not too noisy at the resolution it needs to be seen at: 
I'd assume at least 1024x!

Nice image!

-peter
-- 
Current obsession: "Ballet pour ma fille."
http://www.applesnake.net


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 14:42:01
Message: <3C41E280.5100B66B@hotmail.com>
Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> 
> Stunning!

Thank you very much Mick !


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 14:43:11
Message: <3C41E2C6.3E168778@hotmail.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > What do you think of it ?
> >
> > Is it too noisy now ?
> >
> 
> Maybe you should smooth the background with some fog or so.

Yes, that may be a possible solution.
- But I'm not familiar with POV-fog at all...

In the "Toroidal iso-noise" image I tried
to make the background darker by using a
fading main light source.


> I have another suggestion, but you won't like it: radiosity. ;-)

I wonder how radiosity will look like with
all those "columns" blocking the light.

I'm afraid that the light won't "reach" very
far away from the light source.

What do you think about that Christoph ?

And where would be a good place to put the
light source ?

(In the scene posted I used no_shadow for
the iso-surface.)


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 14:48:23
Message: <3C41E3FD.161F7B22@hotmail.com>
Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> 
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> > What do you think of it ?
> 
>   imply beautiful... now it seems more like a forest (a strange one, tough).
> 
> > Is it too noisy now ?
> 
>   Not really. Great job!

Thanks a lot !


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 15:29:07
Message: <3C41ED89.C2DAC3B0@hotmail.com>
Jide wrote:
> 
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> > What do you think of it ?
> >
> > Is it too noisy now ?
> >
> >
> > Tor Olav
> 
> Fantastic.
> I also see the surreal forest like Jaime. It almost reminds me of the older
> works of Gilles.

Thank you. That's a great compliment !

I went to his site to have a yet another look
at his fantastic images. He has added some rather
new and nice images (and other stuff).

While looking through "the book of beginnings",
I found these two images that had some simi-
larities to the image I posted:

http://www.oyonale.com/ldc/english/herd.htm
http://www.oyonale.com/ldc/english/maesta.htm

And maybe this one:
http://www.oyonale.com/ldc/english/prey.htm


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 15:30:48
Message: <3C41EDF0.957E0255@hotmail.com>
Thank you Alf.

Alf Peake wrote:
> 
> Caves - stalagtites-n-mites; OzLand forest fires; some tunnels you get
> in vulcanology.

Is OzLand the area in Australia that have
all the forest fires these days ?

If you know of any web pages about such
vulcano tunnels, can you then please point
me to them ?


> Beautiful pic as usual from a reliable source ;-)

=)   Is this a little hint for the source code ?


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 13 Jan 2002 15:33:25
Message: <3C41EE8D.A155689A@hotmail.com>
Dearmad wrote:
> 
> no its not too noisy at the resolution it needs to be seen at:
> I'd assume at least 1024x!
> 
> Nice image!

Thanks.

Friday I started a 1024x768 rendering of this
image on a 1 GHz PC. I'm looking forward to see
the result when I get access to it tomorrow.


Tor Olav


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 14 Jan 2002 02:57:21
Message: <3C428F61.DCB6FCD9@gmx.de>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> I wonder how radiosity will look like with
> all those "columns" blocking the light.
> 
> I'm afraid that the light won't "reach" very
> far away from the light source.
> 
> What do you think about that Christoph ?
> 

You could 'cut off' the object just behind the camera so the light comes
in.

> And where would be a good place to put the
> light source ?
> 

Somewhere at the side so you have nice shading on the objects.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: Where circular wrinkles are born (92KB)
Date: 14 Jan 2002 10:22:38
Message: <3c42f7be@news.povray.org>
"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3C41EDF0.957E0255@hotmail.com...
>
> Is OzLand the area in Australia that have
> all the forest fires these days ?

Yes. I'm sorry that I sometimes use expressions that may not be
understood by non-english readers :(

>
> If you know of any web pages about such
> vulcano tunnels, can you then please point
> me to them ?

I do not remember seeing any pictures on the web. The tunnels _do_
have a name, which escapes me. They occur in those lava flows which
are very liquid. The surface hardens fairly quickly but the lava
continues to flow underneath and eventually forms these tunnels. I
have only seen them on TV.

>
> > Beautiful pic as usual from a reliable source ;-)
>
> =)   Is this a little hint for the source code ?

No. I remember playing with the source you posted for the November
image and I must still have it on my HD somewhere :)

Alf


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