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From: scott
Subject: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 10:39:24
Message: <40dd8a9c@news.povray.org>
The animation looks very "computer generated".  I think maybe a more complex
simulation model is required to make it look better...


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 11:05:18
Message: <40dd90ae$1@news.povray.org>
scott nous apporta ses lumieres ainsi en ce 26/06/2004 10:39... :

>The animation looks very "computer generated".  I think maybe a more complex
>simulation model is required to make it look better...
>
>
>  
>
Nice and smooth. Clicking on the moon... the low gravity explain the 
slowness of the movement.

Alain


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From: scott
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 11:13:42
Message: <40dd92a6$1@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
> scott nous apporta ses lumieres ainsi en ce 26/06/2004 10:39... :
>
> > The animation looks very "computer generated".  I think maybe a
> > more complex simulation model is required to make it look better...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Nice and smooth. Clicking on the moon... the low gravity explain the
> slowness of the movement.

It's very tall you know :-)

But you're right, for an "average" sized model (maybe 15cm tall) it should
be much faster, let me look up the time period for a pendulum formula...


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Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 11:24:52
Message: <noe.falzonPASDEPUB-7B89F3.17245026062004@news.povray.org>
In article <40dd92a6$1@news.povray.org>, "scott" <spa### [at] spamcom> wrote:

> But you're right, for an "average" sized model (maybe 15cm tall) it should
> be much faster, let me look up the time period for a pendulum formula...


Yep, and remember that the angle between your pendulum and the vertical 
axe is a sinus function of time. I couldn't see if it were used here or 
not. (definitly too slow ;) )


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From: scott
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 11:44:07
Message: <40dd99c7$1@news.povray.org>

> In article <40dd92a6$1@news.povray.org>, "scott" <spa### [at] spamcom>
> wrote:
>
> > But you're right, for an "average" sized model (maybe 15cm tall) it
> > should be much faster, let me look up the time period for a
> > pendulum formula...
>
>
> Yep, and remember that the angle between your pendulum and the
> vertical axe is a sinus function of time. I couldn't see if it were
> used here or not. (definitly too slow ;) )

The angle=sine(time) at the moment, but actually that is not physically
correct.

The equation for a pendulum is ang.accel = g * sin(angle), whereas most
people just use ang.accel = g * angle :-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 11:57:09
Message: <40dd9cd5@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> > In article <40dd92a6$1@news.povray.org>, "scott" <spa### [at] spamcom>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > But you're right, for an "average" sized model (maybe 15cm tall)
> > > it should be much faster, let me look up the time period for a
> > > pendulum formula...
> >
> >
> > Yep, and remember that the angle between your pendulum and the
> > vertical axe is a sinus function of time. I couldn't see if it were
> > used here or not. (definitly too slow ;) )
>
> The angle=sine(time) at the moment, but actually that is not
> physically correct.
>
> The equation for a pendulum is ang.accel = g * sin(angle), whereas
> most people just use ang.accel = g * angle :-)

OK here is newer version with correct time period for model height (120mm).


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From: Urs Holzer
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 11:59:20
Message: <40dd9d58@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> [...]
> The equation for a pendulum is ang.accel = g * sin(angle), whereas most
> people just use ang.accel = g * angle :-)

since sin(angle) for a little angle is approximately angle. (And later they
use it for big angles too.)
Those physicists!


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From: scott
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 12:07:16
Message: <40dd9f34@news.povray.org>
Urs Holzer wrote:
> scott wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > The equation for a pendulum is ang.accel = g * sin(angle), whereas
> > most people just use ang.accel = g * angle :-)
>
> since sin(angle) for a little angle is approximately angle. (And
> later they use it for big angles too.)
> Those physicists!

Hehe, I'm an Engineer, I use it for *really* big angles :-)


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From: Dave B
Subject: Re: a newton's cradle
Date: 26 Jun 2004 14:14:41
Message: <40ddbd11$1@news.povray.org>
Very nice

Personally though I would like to see those chrome sphere over a checkered
plane ;)

Dave.


"scott" <spa### [at] spamcom> wrote in message news:40dd99c7$1@news.povray.org...

> > In article <40dd92a6$1@news.povray.org>, "scott" <spa### [at] spamcom>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > But you're right, for an "average" sized model (maybe 15cm tall) it
> > > should be much faster, let me look up the time period for a
> > > pendulum formula...
> >
> >
> > Yep, and remember that the angle between your pendulum and the
> > vertical axe is a sinus function of time. I couldn't see if it were
> > used here or not. (definitly too slow ;) )
>
> The angle=sine(time) at the moment, but actually that is not physically
> correct.
>
> The equation for a pendulum is ang.accel = g * sin(angle), whereas most
> people just use ang.accel = g * angle :-)
>
>
>


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