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From: Rune
Subject: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 09:25:13
Message: <3c0e2e49@news.povray.org>
In my particle system I've just implemented support for user-defined
gravity. One use of that is to simulate the gravity of planets etc. That's
what I've attempted in this animation. (The particles are not attracted to
each other though.)

Comments appreciated as always! :)

Rune
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 09:37:26
Message: <3c0e3126$1@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote in message
news:3c0e2e49@news.povray.org...
> In my particle system I've just implemented support for user-defined
> gravity. One use of that is to simulate the gravity of planets etc. That's
> what I've attempted in this animation. (The particles are not attracted to
> each other though.)
>
> Comments appreciated as always! :)

    What finally happens? Do they all impact a planet? If my mental
simulation is correct, they would all have to...


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 10:14:52
Message: <3c0e39ec@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" wrote:
>     What finally happens? Do they all impact a planet?

Of course I haven't tried it, but I think most (maybe all) will impact a
planet but some might leave the system (that happened in some other tests).

Rune
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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 10:28:40
Message: <3c0e3d28@news.povray.org>
Curiouser and curiouser...


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 10:37:58
Message: <3c0e3f56@news.povray.org>
Cool!

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 11:14:41
Message: <3C0E481C.5B080426@gmx.de>
Rune wrote:
> 
> >     What finally happens? Do they all impact a planet?
> 
> Of course I haven't tried it, but I think most (maybe all) will impact a
> planet but some might leave the system (that happened in some other tests).
> 

But be careful with concluding too much from it.  After some time the
system might differ quite a lot from the physically accurate one because
inaccuracies of the numerical simulation grow.  A standard way of testing
this (and also a method for correction) is to calculate the total energy
of each particle which has to stay constant (apart from collisions).  

Christoph

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 11:36:15
Message: <3c0e4cff@news.povray.org>
"Christoph Hormann" wrote:
> But be careful with concluding too much from it.
> After some time the system might differ quite a
> lot from the physically accurate one because
> inaccuracies of the numerical simulation grow.

I'm not sure I like what I hear. Are you implying that my particle system
may not be good enough for NASA to use?

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 11:36:18
Message: <3c0e4d02@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> Curiouser and curiouser...

Curious about what?

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 11:36:19
Message: <3c0e4d03@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" wrote:
> Cool!

Thanks!

Rune
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From: Data
Subject: Re: Gravity fun! (510 kbbu)
Date: 5 Dec 2001 11:55:21
Message: <3c0e5179@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote in message
news:3c0e39ec@news.povray.org...
> "Bill DeWitt" wrote:
> >     What finally happens? Do they all impact a planet?
>
> Of course I haven't tried it, but I think most (maybe all) will impact a
> planet but some might leave the system (that happened in some other
tests).
>
From what I remember, there's no dfinate way to predict particle (planet)
motion around two larger bodies. The orbits of planets around a binary
couple get very chaotic, very quickly. Now where'd I see that article?


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