Which is probably Fernando and Apache currently (apologies to anyone else not
mentioned). Have you experimented with the cloth sim which is part of POVman
0.71.4? I know that re-inventing the wheel is fun (particle system anyone?), but
this simulator can do wind, rudimentary collision detection (this is _slow_), the
cloth can interact with many pov objects, etc. The code behind it may inspire
your own efforts as readers of p.b.a enjoy your anims.

An example anim that I did with this package (at least 6 months ago) can be found
at

http://www.geocities.com/m_j_lewin/cloth1.mpg

It includes friction, changing wind, poor lighting, horrible textures, etc. It is
876kb which is a little too large to post here.

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I have checked it out, but the thing cannot do rubber objects, spheres and
so on.

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"Mark James Lewin" <m_j### [at] yahoocomau> wrote in message
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> Which is probably Fernando and Apache currently (apologies to anyone else
not
> mentioned). Have you experimented with the cloth sim which is part of
POVman
> 0.71.4? I know that re-inventing the wheel is fun (particle system
anyone?), but
> this simulator can do wind, rudimentary collision detection (this is
_slow_), the
> cloth can interact with many pov objects, etc. The code behind it may
inspire
> your own efforts as readers of p.b.a enjoy your anims.
>
> An example anim that I did with this package (at least 6 months ago) can
be found
> at
>
> http://www.geocities.com/m_j_lewin/cloth1.mpg
>
> It includes friction, changing wind, poor lighting, horrible textures,
etc. It is
> 876kb which is a little too large to post here.

Hi Mark,

I thank you for your link, but as you said, the excitement of reinventing
the wheel is precisely what moves me to do this simulations :)

I hope that one day I will be able to simulate what you've just done with
that package, which looks beautiful, by the way.

Thanks again,

Fernando.

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I absolutely agree.

Additionally, reinventing weels can lead to better weels.... I don't think
that I ever will with my rubbery sheets though  ;-)

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Geocities doesn't wanna let me see it for some reason. I downloaded
df3maker however; is there any chance of getting a copy of df3viewer? I
could just write a POV file to do the same job, but...

Mark James Lewin wrote:
> 
> An example anim that I did with this package (at least 6 months ago) can be found
> at
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/m_j_lewin/cloth1.mpg

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>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I thank you for your link, but as you said, the excitement of reinventing
> the wheel is precisely what moves me to do this simulations :)

I understand :-) I just tried to point you towards some inspiration.

> I hope that one day I will be able to simulate what you've just done with
> that package

I am sure you will much more. Good luck with it.

MJL

--
prism{0,.1,30#local I=1;#while(I<30)#local B=asc(substr(// Mark James Lewin
"#K?U_u`V[RG>3<9DGPL.0EObkcPF'",I,1))-33;<div(B,10)-4mod(B,10)+5*div(I,21)-
6>#local I=I+1;#end,-4pigment{rgb 9}rotate-x*90translate 15*z}//POV-Ray 3.5

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Apache wrote:

> I absolutely agree.
>
> Additionally, reinventing weels can lead to better weels.... I don't think
> that I ever will with my rubbery sheets though  ;-)

I apologize if my post came across as an effort to degrade your recent efforts,
or those of Fernando, though that was not the intention. I meant to show you what
other 'wheels' can do; compare them and take the best from both :-).

Your rubbery sheets are impressive in themselves.

MJL

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prism{0,.1,30#local I=1;#while(I<30)#local B=asc(substr(// Mark James Lewin
"#K?U_u`V[RG>3<9DGPL.0EObkcPF'",I,1))-33;<div(B,10)-4mod(B,10)+5*div(I,21)-
6>#local I=I+1;#end,-4pigment{rgb 9}rotate-x*90translate 15*z}//POV-Ray 3.5

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Grey Knight wrote:

> Geocities doesn't wanna let me see it for some reason. I downloaded
> df3maker however; is there any chance of getting a copy of df3viewer? I
> could just write a POV file to do the same job, but...

Geocities is restrictive of data transfer off their free hostings, and of linking to
files only. Try the link at

http://www.geocities.com/m_j_lewin/index.html

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"#K?U_u`V[RG>3<9DGPL.0EObkcPF'",I,1))-33;<div(B,10)-4mod(B,10)+5*div(I,21)-
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"Mark James Lewin" <m_j### [at] yahoocomau> wrote in message
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>
>

>
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I thank you for your link, but as you said, the excitement of
reinventing
> > the wheel is precisely what moves me to do this simulations :)
>
> I understand :-) I just tried to point you towards some inspiration.

I sincerely appreciate your help. It really helps me to see more objectively
the quality of my latest results, which I have not posted because they are
not very good at all.

> > I hope that one day I will be able to simulate what you've just done
with
> > that package
>
> I am sure you will much more. Good luck with it.

I hope so!!! By the way, how fast is that package?

Thanks again,

Fernando.

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> I sincerely appreciate your help. It really helps me to see more objectively
> the quality of my latest results, which I have not posted because they are
> not very good at all.

Don't be disheartened. My posts are few and far between for the same reason.

> I hope so!!! By the way, how fast is that package?

It is tolerable (except if it checks for self collision), but I am sure you can
appreciate the CPU grind that occurs when you have to check 2500+ points on a
cloth :-)

MJL
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prism{0,.1,30#local I=1;#while(I<30)#local B=asc(substr(// Mark James Lewin
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