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From: Rune
Subject: Walking improved
Date: 19 Oct 2000 16:42:54
Message: <39ef5cce@news.povray.org>
The arms still jerk a bit, but the other bugs should be fixed now. Also, I
made him take some bigger steps, and I think it looks more natural now.

What do *you* think?

Hmm, a thought occurs to me - what would *you* like to see AL do? Run, jump,
go up stairs, or what? (Be reasonable.)

Rune
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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 19 Oct 2000 16:54:25
Message: <8FD2EB21Eseed7@204.213.191.228>
Rune wrote:

>The arms still jerk a bit, but the other bugs should be fixed now.
>Also, I made him take some bigger steps, and I think it looks more
>natural now.

Big improvement! The only jerkiness I see is due to my player. His foot 
(not) rolling off the floor is still a bit strange, but you can blame it 
on the oversized boots.

Ingo

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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 19 Oct 2000 17:31:07
Message: <39EF66D4.29614A23@my-dejanews.com>
Run! with both  feet leaving the ground at some point in the cycle!  That's what
I'm working on right now.  We could have a race, then.

Rune wrote:

> The arms still jerk a bit, but the other bugs should be fixed now. Also, I
> made him take some bigger steps, and I think it looks more natural now.
>
> What do *you* think?
>
> Hmm, a thought occurs to me - what would *you* like to see AL do? Run, jump,
> go up stairs, or what? (Be reasonable.)


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 19 Oct 2000 22:26:01
Message: <39EFAD47.DD12659F@ij.net>
Rune wrote:
> 
> The arms still jerk a bit, but the other bugs should be fixed now. Also, I
> made him take some bigger steps, and I think it looks more natural now.
> 
> What do *you* think?
> 
> Hmm, a thought occurs to me - what would *you* like to see AL do? Run, jump,
> go up stairs, or what? (Be reasonable.)

	Quite good. What you are getting which most lack is the synchronous
head movement. A little synchronous body movement and you have it. And
then a difference between 'falling' forward and 'twisting' forward and
you have Al and Alice. 

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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 19 Oct 2000 23:14:26
Message: <39efb892@news.povray.org>
>... - what would *you* like to see AL do?

I would like to see him climb up on to a Tractor, or advanced tactical
fighter, or whatever passes for alien hardware these days. :)

Grim


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 19 Oct 2000 23:24:35
Message: <39efbaf3@news.povray.org>
Matt wrote:

"The US fought Germany in WWII because Germany
declared war on the US."

They did? I thought, because of their pact with Japan, they (Germans in
occupation) were 'automatically' the enemy, but that our involvment in
Europe was due to Allied pre-Pacific Campaign agreements.

Not that this knowledge is a prerequisite to ray-tracing...

Grim


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 20 Oct 2000 00:06:20
Message: <39EFC4CA.2FFBBFB5@ij.net>
GrimDude wrote:
> 
> Matt wrote:
> 
> "The US fought Germany in WWII because Germany
> declared war on the US."
> 
> They did? I thought, because of their pact with Japan, they (Germans in
> occupation) were 'automatically' the enemy, but that our involvment in
> Europe was due to Allied pre-Pacific Campaign agreements.
> 
> Not that this knowledge is a prerequisite to ray-tracing...

	There is an off-topic group, take it there or read a grade school
history textbook. 

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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 20 Oct 2000 03:26:41
Message: <39eff3b1$1@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
news:39ef5cce@news.povray.org...
>
> Hmm, a thought occurs to me - what would *you* like to see AL do? Run, jump,
> go up stairs, or what? (Be reasonable.)

Definitely improved upon.  I liked it before too, this is so much better though
with the feet following the floor and the jerkiness squelched.
I'd like to see it blink.  Has that zombie look right now.

Bob


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 20 Oct 2000 09:34:16
Message: <39f049d8@news.povray.org>
still seems to be a 'click' at the animation loop point - dunno if thats
media player tho..

very nice work!

Rick


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 20 Oct 2000 11:53:12
Message: <39f06a68@news.povray.org>
Well, kiss my grits! Grade school my ass!

Grim


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 06:01:46
Message: <39f1698a@news.povray.org>
"ingo" wrote:
> Big improvement!

Thanks!

> The only jerkiness I see is due to my player.

Or so you think... :-(

> His foot (not) rolling off the floor is still a bit strange,
> but you can blame it on the oversized boots.

His foot not rolling over the floor - I'm not sure what you mean by that?
(Poor understanding of English on my part I guess.)

Greetings,

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 06:01:48
Message: <39f1698c@news.povray.org>
"Bob H." wrote:
> Definitely improved upon.

Thanks!

> I'd like to see it blink.  Has that zombie look right now.

Ok, in the next animations he'll be blinking for every second step he takes!
(Has to be that way.)

Greetings,

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 06:01:49
Message: <39f1698d@news.povray.org>
"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> Run! with both  feet leaving the ground at some point in the cycle!

Ok.

> That's what I'm working on right now.  We could have a race, then.

Which kind of race? A "who will first post a successful running animation"
race? :-)

Greetings,

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 06:01:50
Message: <39f1698e@news.povray.org>
"Matt Giwer" wrote:
> Quite good.

Thanks!

> What you are getting which most lack is the synchronous
> head movement.
> A little synchronous body movement and you have it. And
> then a difference between 'falling' forward and 'twisting'
> forward and you have Al and Alice.

I badly need some reference animation (cyclic) of a human walking, because
I'm not sure exactly how it's supposed to look...

Greetings,

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 06:01:51
Message: <39f1698f@news.povray.org>
"GrimDude" wrote:
> >... - what would *you* like to see AL do?
>
> I would like to see him climb up on to a Tractor, or
> advanced tactical fighter, or whatever passes for alien
> hardware these days. :)

Maybe sometime! :-)

Greetings,

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 06:01:52
Message: <39f16990@news.povray.org>
"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> still seems to be a 'click' at the animation loop point
> - dunno if thats media player tho..

I'm afraid it's not.

> very nice work!

Thanks!

Rune
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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 07:12:28
Message: <39F17A1D.2CAAFCED@ij.net>
Rune wrote:
> 
> "Matt Giwer" wrote:
> > Quite good.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> > What you are getting which most lack is the synchronous
> > head movement.
> > A little synchronous body movement and you have it. And
> > then a difference between 'falling' forward and 'twisting'
> > forward and you have Al and Alice.
> 
> I badly need some reference animation (cyclic) of a human walking, because
> I'm not sure exactly how it's supposed to look...

	I have no knowledge of any references on the subject. You are doing
quite good as is. Grab the movies "Switch" and one with the guy from the
"Mrs Robinson" and some Quantum Leap episodes. 

	The difference is women's center of gravity is much lower than men's
(hips, rump, thighs -- half the reasons we look) so they naturally walk
different. And we perceive the "waist" to be different on each but that
has nothing to do with where the pelvic bone is in relation to the body. 

	I can't tell you how to do it but think about it a while. It is mostly
with how the torso shifts with walking and from where it shifts. 

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 08:28:05
Message: <8FD49C4C1seed7@204.213.191.228>
Rune wrote:

>His foot not rolling over the floor - I'm not sure what you mean by that?
>
The moment the foot leaves the floor it should be more stretched. Have a 
look at http://web.inter.nl.net/users/anima/chronoph/motion/index.htm , 
also for ideas what to do with AL.

Ingo

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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 13:40:45
Message: <MPG.145be55d658cf0cb989813@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 11:58:13 +0200, Rune wrote...
> I badly need some reference animation (cyclic) of a human walking, because
> I'm not sure exactly how it's supposed to look...

Why?

He's an alien, so who says he has to walk like a human?

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 17:41:30
Message: <39f20d8a@news.povray.org>
"ingo" wrote:
> The moment the foot leaves the floor it should be more stretched.
> Have a look at
> http://web.inter.nl.net/users/anima/chronoph/motion/index.htm ,
> also for ideas what to do with AL.

Thanks a lot! Very useful!

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Walking improved
Date: 21 Oct 2000 17:41:31
Message: <39f20d8b@news.povray.org>
"Jamie Davison" wrote:
> He's an alien, so who says he has to walk like a human?

Because it looks better! ;)

Rune
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