Just an idea - if you're posting an animation that requires some special
codec, like Divx, it would save those of us who don't want to go hunt down
and install additional codecs the time of downloading unusable animations if
everyone posting those things would mention it in the subject line. It
doesn't help to list the additional requirement in the body of the post,
because that part doesn't become visible until after the animation file
itself is finished downloading. I'm sure there are many fine codecs
available out there, but I don't want to install any more stuff than
necessary on my computer because of the increased chances of crashes,
clashes, etc.  ;-)

Regards,
Dave

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It
> doesn't help to list the additional requirement in the body of the post,
> because that part doesn't become visible until after the animation file
> itself is finished downloading.

shows on mine.  i use netscape.  the body pops up and then the file
downloads.

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On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:30:58 -0700, "Dave Blandston"
<gra### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>Just an idea - if you're posting an animation that requires some special
>codec, like Divx, it would save those of us who don't want to go hunt down
>and install additional codecs the time of downloading unusable animations if
>everyone posting those things would mention it in the subject line. 

What's so special about DivX besides being a really great codec? Or
tdo you consider "special" a codec which is not supported by MicroSoft
and hence unavailable by the automatic codec download feature of Media
Player? MP is known to have problems even with some 100% standard-
compliant MPEG animations but that is irrelevant to your question,
sorry.

>It
>doesn't help to list the additional requirement in the body of the post,
>because that part doesn't become visible until after the animation file
>itself is finished downloading. I'm sure there are many fine codecs
>available out there, but I don't want to install any more stuff than
>necessary on my computer because of the increased chances of crashes,
>clashes, etc.  ;-)

A modern operation system should not be afraid of a codec. Even less
so if it aims to bring multimedia technology to your home computer.
I've never had a codec crash on me (under Windows). Granted, I've had
a *player* crash but that was the player's fault because the anim in
question opened well in other apps using the same codec.

Putting aside my slight disagreements with the above points, I agree
with your main suggestion to indicate the coded and version in the
subject line, and a link to a download site in the body should also be
of help.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
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Peter Popov wrote:

>A modern operation system should not be afraid of a codec.

But the player may be. In my case my default player, Irfanview, goes 
bazurk. No progress-bar/framenumber-bar. Also stop/kill Irfanview can only 
be done via the taskmanager.
Windows media player latest-1 shows a strange colour band on the bottom of 
the sequence.
Please use MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or GIF(I know, I know) everybody can view these 
(I think).

Ingo

-- 
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Speaking of DivX, I thought the format died with the those proprietary
DVD players?

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Mike wrote:
> 
> Speaking of DivX, I thought the format died with the those proprietary
> DVD players?
Yes that was DivX, the format now discussed is actually called DivX;-)
yes, that smily is part of the name.

/Peter
-- 
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Beta Test Version:  Still too buggy to be released. 
Release Version:  Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version".

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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote :
>
> What's so special about DivX besides being a really great codec? Or
> tdo you consider "special" a codec which is not supported by MicroSoft
> and hence unavailable by the automatic codec download feature of Media
> Player?

    My copy of Media Player ran the file without a hitch, and didn't have to
download anything.

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On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 00:54:04 -0400, "Bill DeWitt"
<the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>> What's so special about DivX besides being a really great codec? Or
>> tdo you consider "special" a codec which is not supported by MicroSoft
>> and hence unavailable by the automatic codec download feature of Media
>> Player?
>
>    My copy of Media Player ran the file without a hitch, and didn't have to
>download anything.

Did you download and install the DivX;-) codec previously? It can't
jsut appear on your machine, you know...


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Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
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> Please use MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or GIF(I know, I know) everybody can view these

firstly GIF? no, never in a million years, might as well post fli or flc's,
and i dont render in full colour to have it destroyed converting it to 256.

i am unable to make mpeg's directly, and am far from happy converting one
lossy codec to another, might as well not bother !

after all DivX;-) is only a video codec !!. its not wrapped up in its own
peice of bloated spyware, like real player which most people seem to have
installed

Rick

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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote :
>
> Did you download and install the DivX;-) codec previously? It can't
> jsut appear on your machine, you know...

    I don't think so, I kinda notice when those things happen because of my
zonealarm settings. I just got the new version a few days ago (ok, maybe two
weeks) and I don't think it has downloaded -anything- yet.

    Of course, there is a good chance that the new version uses the
downloaded codecs from the old version. In which case I could have
downloaded it months ago...

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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote in message
news:2t4qos4c39jm014ctqg5cdvd4uasqo2s2i@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 00:54:04 -0400, "Bill DeWitt"
> <the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
>
> >> What's so special about DivX besides being a really great codec? Or
> >> tdo you consider "special" a codec which is not supported by MicroSoft
> >> and hence unavailable by the automatic codec download feature of Media
> >> Player?
> >
> >    My copy of Media Player ran the file without a hitch, and didn't have
to
> >download anything.
>
> Did you download and install the DivX;-) codec previously? It can't
> jsut appear on your machine, you know...
>

    ... and even so, that would mean that it is available by automatic
download even though the Evil MicroSoft Empire doesn't support* it.

    *(As if other players come with it loaded already...)

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seriously, how big are codecs anyway?  not very.  i don't have a problem
downloading and installing a new one if i'm just showed where to get
it.  incidentally, i already had divx before this big discussion as it
can be used to convert dvds to avi (or something like that) and dvd
captures make for good hollywood graphics study material.

"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> 
> > Please use MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or GIF(I know, I know) everybody can view these
> 
> firstly GIF? no, never in a million years, might as well post fli or flc's,
> and i dont render in full colour to have it destroyed converting it to 256.
> 
> i am unable to make mpeg's directly, and am far from happy converting one
> lossy codec to another, might as well not bother !
> 
> after all DivX;-) is only a video codec !!. its not wrapped up in its own
> peice of bloated spyware, like real player which most people seem to have
> installed
> 
> Rick

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On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:49:38 -0400, "Bill DeWitt"
<the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>    ... and even so, that would mean that it is available by automatic
>download even though the Evil MicroSoft Empire doesn't support* it.
>
>    *(As if other players come with it loaded already...)

Players play. Codecs code and decode. That's the beauty of it, a
player can use any codec and a codec may be used in any player (or any
video processing program for that matter).

The only players that I can think of that don't use shared codecs are
MPEG, Smacker, Bink and FLI players. That sucks because you can't use,
say, Bink in, say, Adobe Premiere, while you can use DivX;-)

And no, DivX;-) is not available through automatic download. Maybe the
original DivX is but I don't know if they are compatible.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote :
>
> And no, DivX;-) is not available through automatic download.

    Then how did I get it?

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>     Then how did I get it?

Someone else that was using your machine got it maybe?

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On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:57:47 -0400, "Bill DeWitt"
<the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>
>"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote :
>>
>> And no, DivX;-) is not available through automatic download.
>
>    Then how did I get it?

By direct download, either you (but you don't remember) or someone
else using that machine. Maybe it was installed by some app or game.
Either way, ifyou don't trust me, remove it from your computer and see
if Media Player will succeed in downloading it. It didn't here so why
should it work on your machine?


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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"Libellule" <lib### [at] insectesnet> wrote :
>
> >     Then how did I get it?
>
> Someone else that was using your machine got it maybe?

    Nope, Alexander is smart, but at 4 years old he is not quite ready to
break my password.

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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote :
>
> It didn't here so why
> should it work on your machine?

    Because some people seem to have trouble with windows that I don't have.
I don't have to reboot everytime I blink, I don't have notepad lock up the
system, I don't have to reinstall windows every other week, and I don't find
these problems with WP.

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On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:59:36 -0400, "Bill DeWitt"
<the### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>> It didn't here so why
>> should it work on your machine?
>
>    Because some people seem to have trouble with windows that I don't have.
>I don't have to reboot everytime I blink, I don't have notepad lock up the
>system, I don't have to reinstall windows every other week, and I don't find
>these problems with WP.

You're well known to have the only working copy of Windows ever
shipped :)

Anyway, it's just not available for download on microsoft.com . Not
even if I browse it with lynx.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>

<ul>
<li>
<b><i><u><font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font color="#FF0000"><font size=+1>"Embrace
modernity and the Microsoft line of office
products."</font></font></font></u></i></b></li>

<li>
<b><i><u><font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font color="#FF0000"><font size=+1>"It
works for me, therefore it is not a problem."</font></font></font></u></i></b></li>
</ul>

<br> 
<p>Dave Blandston wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Just an idea - if you're posting an animation that
requires some special
<br>codec, like Divx, it would save those of us who don't want to go hunt
down
<br>and install additional codecs the time of downloading unusable animations
if
<br>everyone posting those things would mention it in the subject line.
It
<br>doesn't help to list the additional requirement in the body of the
post,
<br>because that part doesn't become visible until after the animation
file
<br>itself is finished downloading. I'm sure there are many fine codecs
<br>available out there, but I don't want to install any more stuff than
<br>necessary on my computer because of the increased chances of crashes,
<br>clashes, etc.  ;-)
<p>Regards,
<br>Dave</blockquote>
</html>

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"Greg M. Johnson" <gre### [at] my-dejanewscom> wrote :
>
>"It works for me, therefore it is not a problem

    "I can't make it work, therefore it is the fault of the software"

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