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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 24 Jul 2000 20:14:37
Message: <397cdbed@news.povray.org>
Christoph's Icy Coast image at p.b.i. had me wanting to do a fly-over of a
ridged multifractal landscape (again).  This was originally a 480x240 pixel
panoramic view without AA (it smudged the sharp details even at +a1.0 +r1)
so was a fairly fast render at about 2m 45s a frame, 240 frames.  To get it
uploadable here I had to rescale and encode at a terrible bit-rate in Video
Mach 2, so it actually does look much better in the 8 megabyte version.  I
thought I had the isosurface doing okay until I realized there's a slice of
sunlight shining through a mountain into the shadow around midway through
the animation.  Not visible in this degraded mpeg.
A slope dependant texture I've had a while is modified for this.  I hope to
get a better file uploaded to a web space later on, in the meantime I hope
this one at least plays after taking the time to D/L it.

Bob
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From: Pabs
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 24 Jul 2000 21:42:04
Message: <397CEFBE.624E90F8@hotmail.com>
Bob Hughes wrote:

> Christoph's Icy Coast image at p.b.i. had me wanting to do a fly-over of a
> ridged multifractal landscape (again).  This was originally a 480x240 pixel
> panoramic view without AA (it smudged the sharp details even at +a1.0 +r1)
> so was a fairly fast render at about 2m 45s a frame, 240 frames.  To get it
> uploadable here I had to rescale and encode at a terrible bit-rate in Video
> Mach 2, so it actually does look much better in the 8 megabyte version.  I
> thought I had the isosurface doing okay until I realized there's a slice of
> sunlight shining through a mountain into the shadow around midway through
> the animation.  Not visible in this degraded mpeg.

Uuuuggghhh!!
Would probably look v good less compressed. - I look forward to seeing it.

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Bye
Pabs


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From: Dave Blandston
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 01:47:21
Message: <397d29e9@news.povray.org>
This would definitely be worth downloading at a higher quality!

>I hope to
> get a better file uploaded to a web space later on, in the meantime I hope
> this one at least plays after taking the time to D/L it.
>
> Bob
> --
> omniVerse http://users.aol.com/persistenceofv/all.htm


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 03:04:03
Message: <397d3be3@news.povray.org>
"Dave Blandston" <gra### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
news:397d29e9@news.povray.org...
| This would definitely be worth downloading at a higher quality!

Let me try that again, other reply hopefully cancelled:

Good to know you think so, however I'm not going to upload the 8 meg mpeg
file after all.  It's just not good enough.  The textures are randomizing
causing a jittering effect, although +j0 was set to prevent actual jitter
(heck, no antialiasing was used anyhow).
However I've uploaded the medium version, it's under 4 megs and is 360x180
and 240 frames.  Another major reason was finding that I get a choppy
playback of the larger file.  This smaller one is smooth like it ought to
be, but I wouldn't count on that on every machine or player.
Here's the URL (as I currently know it):
http://jove.prohosting.com/~omnivers/html/raytraces/anims/flightmw.mpg
It's a brand new place for me.  I finally followed the leader over to this
web host (thanks Ron Parker, Mike Hough, and whoever else may have suggested
the place).
Don't count on downloading this file immediately, I couldn't yet and it's
even my own site.

Sorry for the trouble if you get nothing but a 404 there.

Bob


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From: ryan constantine
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 03:58:48
Message: <397D4887.2B344B99@yahoo.com>
now all you need is chris colefax's spline macro for your camera to add
pitch, roll, and direction change to get rid of the sideways movement. 
i am going to check out your higher res version.  good job bob.

Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> "Dave Blandston" <gra### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
> news:397d29e9@news.povray.org...
> | This would definitely be worth downloading at a higher quality!
> 
> Let me try that again, other reply hopefully cancelled:
> 
> Good to know you think so, however I'm not going to upload the 8 meg mpeg
> file after all.  It's just not good enough.  The textures are randomizing
> causing a jittering effect, although +j0 was set to prevent actual jitter
> (heck, no antialiasing was used anyhow).
> However I've uploaded the medium version, it's under 4 megs and is 360x180
> and 240 frames.  Another major reason was finding that I get a choppy
> playback of the larger file.  This smaller one is smooth like it ought to
> be, but I wouldn't count on that on every machine or player.
> Here's the URL (as I currently know it):
> http://jove.prohosting.com/~omnivers/html/raytraces/anims/flightmw.mpg
> It's a brand new place for me.  I finally followed the leader over to this
> web host (thanks Ron Parker, Mike Hough, and whoever else may have suggested
> the place).
> Don't count on downloading this file immediately, I couldn't yet and it's
> even my own site.
> 
> Sorry for the trouble if you get nothing but a 404 there.
> 
> Bob


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From: Dick Balaska
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 04:15:44
Message: <397D4C80.FB06DB96@buckosoft.com>
Bob Hughes wrote:

> Here's the URL (as I currently know it):
> http://jove.prohosting.com/~omnivers/html/raytraces/anims/flightmw.mpg

> Sorry for the trouble if you get nothing but a 404 there.

try

http://jove.prohosting.com/~omnivers/raytraces/anims/flightmw.mpg

to subtract 204 from the status code. 

dik


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 04:42:47
Message: <397d5307@news.povray.org>
"Dick Balaska" <dic### [at] buckosoftcom> wrote in message
news:397D4C80.FB06DB96@buckosoft.com...
| try
|
| http://jove.prohosting.com/~omnivers/raytraces/anims/flightmw.mpg
|
| to subtract 204 from the status code.

Thanks, I had no idea the "html" part was an unnecessary or wrong part of
the URL.  I don't understand this special URL stuff yet at all and I still
can't get the file downloaded.  Wondering if I have to set some sort of
permissions up now since I read something about it someplace.  Wish I had
checked into this further before posting.

Bob


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 04:49:13
Message: <397d5489@news.povray.org>
"ryan constantine" <rco### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:397D4887.2B344B99@yahoo.com...
| now all you need is chris colefax's spline macro for your camera to add
| pitch, roll, and direction change to get rid of the sideways movement.
| i am going to check out your higher res version.  good job bob.

Thanks, not 'copter enough?  :-) I've had the spline generator and the macro
almost since they were first available I believe.  Just went with an easy
flight path for the tests, plus I don't always put a lot of effort into all
aspects of something anyhow.
Sure hope people can get to the better mpeg file someday, I'm still trying
to get a look at it from the web site myself to check if it went okay.
As Dick Balaska has said the "html" directory of the URL is wrong to have in
there.

Bob


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Ignore the URL to the 4 MB Mpeg please!
Date: 25 Jul 2000 05:09:15
Message: <397d593b@news.povray.org>
Zoiks!!
I found out what went wrong, maybe.  Everything under the HTML folder at
that web site is considered to be a html web file and nothing else.  Or so
it would seem.  I right-clicked on the link once there and to my amazement
the flightmw.mpg showed up as flightmw.htm !
So please excuse my total ignorance.  I will move the file to another
location or fix it somehow eventually I hope.  So sorry to be wasting
anyones time like this.  I need to ask questions at povray.off-topic instead
of continuing blindly here.

Bob


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From: Mike
Subject: Re: flight over fractal mountains and lakes [~577KB Mpg]
Date: 25 Jul 2000 05:54:52
Message: <397D7121.6B3157EA@aol.com>
> Thanks, I had no idea the "html" part was an unnecessary or wrong part of
> the URL.  I don't understand this special URL stuff yet at all and I still
> can't get the file downloaded.  Wondering if I have to set some sort of
> permissions up now since I read something about it someplace.  Wish I had
> checked into this further before posting.

The link http://jove.prohosting.com/~omnivers/raytraces/anims/flightmw.mpg
works for me.

Prohosting free service isn't what it was when I first signed up.  In addition
to the new ad banners, they did something so that you have to go to another
web page that says "to continue downloading this file..."  Therefore you can't
link directly to a file like you used to.  It also seems to cause problem with
windows media player, so the file needs to be saved to disk before opening.

-Mike


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