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From: clipka
Subject: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.2
Date: 9 Aug 2021 09:11:56
Message: <6111299c@news.povray.org>
Almost made it within 4 weeks:

https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/releases/tag/v3.8.0-beta.2


Let us know of any gripes you may have with that version.

Also, feel free to remind us of any gripes you had with the previous 
beta that haven't been addressed satisfactorily yet (I'm quite sure 
there are some).

Pro Tip: A GitHub issue report 
(https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/issues) is the best way to make sure 
we're keeping proper tabs on whatever your gripe may be.


Happy Testing!


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From: jr
Subject: Re: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.2
Date: 13 Aug 2021 08:25:00
Message: <web.611662422e46e9155e0fed26cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Let us know of any gripes you may have with that version.
>
> Also, feel free to remind us of any gripes you had with the previous
> beta that haven't been addressed satisfactorily yet (I'm quite sure
> there are some).

thanks, builds with only one (same 'trace.cpp') warning.  'datetime(now)' as
before, the '+rtr +kla' test scene still gives me an empty preview window.  the
'declare=X=Y' still mangles the value. puzzled what the point of adding '-src'
to archive and directory would be, are there any binaries for not-Windows?

(what is different? :-))


> Pro Tip: A GitHub issue report
> (https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/issues) is the best way to make sure
> we're keeping proper tabs on whatever your gripe may be.

well, this is an amateur reporting.  ;-)


regards, jr.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.2
Date: 13 Aug 2021 09:00:17
Message: <61166ce1$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.08.2021 um 14:21 schrieb jr:

> puzzled what the point of adding '-src'
> to archive and directory would be, are there any binaries for not-Windows?

Pretty much just conveying the notion that, in contrast to the `povwin-` 
stuff, this one is not a binary.


> (what is different? :-))

Well, I _could_ point you to the `changelist.txt` in the root directory...

Really I just thought after 4 weeks it might be time for another beta, 
even though the changes weren't very numerous. Also, it had that 
glorious `datetime` "fix" in it that I wanted to get out for testing, 
and that turns out to be doing absolutely zilch because there was 
nothing to fix in the first place...


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From: jr
Subject: Re: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.2
Date: 13 Aug 2021 09:35:00
Message: <web.611674102e46e9155e0fed26cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 13.08.2021 um 14:21 schrieb jr:
>
> > puzzled what the point of adding '-src'
> > to archive and directory would be, are there any binaries for not-Windows?
>
> Pretty much just conveying the notion that, in contrast to the `povwin-`
> stuff, this one is not a binary.

since, in another thread, you professed an interest in *NIX-ness (just
"hampered" because locked in to one tool set ;-)), know then that splitting a
s/ware in to separate "-dev", "-doc", "-src", whatnot, is a Linux thing, not
*NIX.  and even then mostly the distributions which target the "Redmond Boy with
unruly streak".


> > (what is different? :-))
> Well, I _could_ point you to the `changelist.txt` in the root directory...

I did look at 'ChangeLog', which referred me to 'revisions.txt'.  will have a
look at 'changelist.txt' later.


> Really I just thought after 4 weeks it might be time for another beta,
> even though the changes weren't very numerous. Also, it had that
> glorious `datetime` "fix" in it that I wanted to get out for testing,
> and that turns out to be doing absolutely zilch because there was
> nothing to fix in the first place...

tja.  well, anyway, "onwards and upwards", beta.3.


regards, jr.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.2
Date: 13 Aug 2021 10:17:16
Message: <61167eec$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.08.2021 um 15:30 schrieb jr:
> hi,
> 
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Am 13.08.2021 um 14:21 schrieb jr:
>>
>>> puzzled what the point of adding '-src'
>>> to archive and directory would be, are there any binaries for not-Windows?
>>
>> Pretty much just conveying the notion that, in contrast to the `povwin-`
>> stuff, this one is not a binary.
> 
> since, in another thread, you professed an interest in *NIX-ness (just
> "hampered" because locked in to one tool set ;-)), know then that splitting a
> s/ware in to separate "-dev", "-doc", "-src", whatnot, is a Linux thing, not
> *NIX.  and even then mostly the distributions which target the "Redmond Boy with
> unruly streak".

Then that's good, because no such split is actually intended to be implied.

Just the plain old fact that you need to compile the whole shebang 
before it will do anything useful.

User documentation and sample scenes are included (or should be, at any 
rate), for instance.


As for the "Redmond Boy with unruly streak", I wouldn't even know what 
you're referring to.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.2
Date: 13 Aug 2021 12:05:00
Message: <web.611697fe2e46e9155e0fed26cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Then that's good, because no such split is actually intended to be implied.

</phew>  cheers.


regards, jr.


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