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From: clipka
Subject: Beta testers please!
Date: 16 Jul 2009 15:50:00
Message: <web.4a5f83988050d6d8579432980@news.povray.org>
Just to remind you that beta versions are not only released to keep the customer
satisfied, but also to get feedback on issues.

If you encounter any troubles with the most recent beta (or the most recent
official release, for that matter), you are invited to visit

  http://bugs.povray.org

and open up a new task. The same goes if you have any serious suggestions for
further improvements.

Of course, please check first whether the issue has been reported already; if
so, please be so kind to add any additional helpful information you may have in
a comment. If you consider the issue important enough, you may also want to
"bump" its priority by "voting" for it.


If you are willing to provide further help, here's some suggestions how to:

- Visit the aforementioned bug tracking site occasionally, even if you don't
have any issues to report. You may find some tasks marked as "requiring
testing", so if you feel up to it, and the "due in" version has been released
alredy, go ahead to see whether the issue has indeed been fixed, and report
your findings in a comment.

- Volunteer to help Jim get the documentation up to date.

- If you really want to get your hands dirty and feel up to it, try diving into
the source code and come up with a fix for a particular reported issue.

- Keep the developers motivated by posting interesting shots to
povray.binary.images :) (ah, you're all doing a good job there already)


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 16 Jul 2009 17:01:50
Message: <4a5f953e@news.povray.org>
Le 16/07/2009 21:47, clipka nous fit lire :

[snip, but agreed]

Source for linux beta 33 please!
How am i to report issue on 33 without sources ?


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 16 Jul 2009 17:02:44
Message: <4a5f9574@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:01:49 +0200, Le_Forgeron wrote:

> How am i to report issue on 33 without sources ?

If you have the binaries, start with reporting what happens when you do 
things - sources aren't required to submit bug reports.  If they were, 
nobody would ever report bugs with any closed source software. ;-)

Jim


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 16 Jul 2009 18:20:00
Message: <web.4a5fa71c117b82c7579432980@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:01:49 +0200, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>
> > How am i to report issue on 33 without sources ?
>
> If you have the binaries, start with reporting what happens when you do
> things - sources aren't required to submit bug reports.  If they were,
> nobody would ever report bugs with any closed source software. ;-)

Um... sorry Jim, but he's talking about Linux. No binaries there for quite some
time...

I guess it must be conceded that releases still keep lagging behind on Linux.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 16 Jul 2009 18:52:17
Message: <4a5faf21$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:18:04 -0400, clipka wrote:

> Um... sorry Jim, but he's talking about Linux. No binaries there for
> quite some time...
> 
> I guess it must be conceded that releases still keep lagging behind on
> Linux.

Oh, whoops, how did I miss that? :)

Jim


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From: Joerg
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 19 Jul 2009 04:42:24
Message: <4a62dc70$1@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 16/07/2009 21:47, clipka nous fit lire :
> 
> [snip, but agreed]
> 
> Source for linux beta 33 please!
> How am i to report issue on 33 without sources ?

I'd also like to attend beta testing.
But there's still no Linux Beta 33 available so far.
Are the re any plan to release it?

Thanks


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From: Joerg
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 22 Jul 2009 02:10:45
Message: <4a66ad65$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> I guess it must be conceded that releases still keep lagging behind on Linux.

Can I do something to speed up things for Povray on Linux?
Is help needed/welcome? Can I offer assistance?

Joerg


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From: Nicolas Calimet
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 22 Jul 2009 12:44:02
Message: <4a6741d2$1@news.povray.org>
> Source for linux beta 33 please!

	Please grab it from there until it's available at povray.org:

http://pov4grasp.free.fr/download/povray-3.7.0.beta.33.tar.bz2

	- NC


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From: William Pokorny
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 26 Jul 2009 19:55:00
Message: <web.4a6cec54117b82c7d2e3fb180@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Calimet <pov### [at] freefr> wrote:
> > Source for linux beta 33 please!
>
>  Please grab it from there until it's available at povray.org:
>
> http://pov4grasp.free.fr/download/povray-3.7.0.beta.33.tar.bz2
>
>  - NC

Thank you. I was able to compile and run this on a ubuntu 9.04 dual core atom
processor / nettop box with no trouble related to the povray beta 33 code.

Render Time:
  Photon Time:      0 hours  0 minutes  1 seconds (1.821 seconds)
              using 7 thread(s) with 2.127 CPU-seconds total
  Radiosity Time:   No radiosity
  Trace Time:       0 hours 11 minutes 40 seconds (700.418 seconds)
              using 4 thread(s) with 2724.505 CPU-seconds total

I really want a dual w5580 xeon box, which I expect would be about 20 times
faster - also 20 times more expensive! Good news here is hyper-threading looks
to be working really well for povray 3.7 in this new crop of Intel processors.

The i7 920 benchmark results posted a month or two ago in the unix group were
just ever so slightly slower than a benchmark run I did with beta 32 on a
borrowed 3 year old dual 4 core 3ghz+ xeon processor machine with no
hyper-threading. (i7 920 4 cores + hyper-threading looks roughly as fast as 8
older xeon cores for povray 3.7- cool)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Beta testers please!
Date: 5 Aug 2009 23:46:13
Message: <4a7a5205$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> - Volunteer to help Jim get the documentation up to date.

Is this being done via the wiki (wiki.povray.org), is that only for the 
future?

Sometimes I'm in the mood to write some docs, and I want to make sure 
the changes get submitted in the correct way.

-- 
Chambers


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