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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 - editor DLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 02:29:52
Message: <60dc0f60$1@news.povray.org>
Op 29/06/2021 om 12:07 schreef clipka:
> Hi folks,
> 
> another not-quite-beta in our series of "let's not test POV-Ray itself, 
> but all the stuff that surrounds its compilation, deployment and 
> installation":
> 
> https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/releases/tag/v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669
> 

The update povwin-v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-setup.exe does not download 
(correctly). I only get an empty file: 0 bytes. Using Win10.

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Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 - editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 02:48:43
Message: <60dc13cb@news.povray.org>
Op 30/06/2021 om 08:29 schreef Thomas de Groot:
> Op 29/06/2021 om 12:07 schreef clipka:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> another not-quite-beta in our series of "let's not test POV-Ray 
>> itself, but all the stuff that surrounds its compilation, deployment 
>> and installation":
>>
>> https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/releases/tag/v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669
>>
> 
> The update povwin-v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-setup.exe does not download 
> (correctly). I only get an empty file: 0 bytes. Using Win10.
> 

OK. Skip that. Firefox blocked the download.


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Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 - editor DLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 02:59:35
Message: <60dc1657@news.povray.org>
Op 29/06/2021 om 12:07 schreef clipka:
> Hi folks,
> 
> another not-quite-beta in our series of "let's not test POV-Ray itself, 
> but all the stuff that surrounds its compilation, deployment and 
> installation":
> 
> https://github.com/POV-Ray/povray/releases/tag/v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669
> 
> This time, we would like you to test-drive an update to the editor DLL 
> mechanism:
> 
> 
> (0) Make sure you have an existing POV-Ray v3.7 installation.
> 
OK

> (1) Make sure to _uninstall_ any of the previous technical verification 
> builds. Most notably, make sure there are no editor DLLs left in the 
> `.../POV-Ray/v3.8-beta/bin` directory that might have somehow found 
> their way there.
> 
OK

> (2) Install the version published at the URL above, _declining_ the 
> installer's offer to download the editor DLLs.
> 
OK

> (3) Run the newly installed POV-Ray version, verifying that it offers 
> you to download the editor DLLs (_decline_ again), and that you can't 
> use the editor.
> 
OK

> (4) Copy `povcmax32.dll` and `povcmax64.dll` (but _no_ other DLLs, not 
> even `povcmax32-sse2.dll`) from the `.../POV-Ray/v3.7/bin` directory of 
> your existing v3.7 installation into the corresponding directory of the 
> new installation.
> 
OK
(Some extra grumbling about admins rights)

> (5) Run the newly installed POV-Ray version, verifying that it does 
> _not_ offer you to download the editor DLLs anymore, and that its editor 
> is now fully functional.
> 
OK

> 
> We would like your feedback...
> 
> - whether you do indeed see the expected behavior (and if not, what 
> divergent behavior you are seeing)
Initially a bit of confusion coming from protesting Firefox and admin, 
but finally worked as expected.

> - what version of Windows you are using
Windows 10

> - which of the three POV-Ray binaries is actually being run on your 
> system (32-bit, 32-bit SSE2 or 64-bit; see version information in the 
> Message Window)
64-bit (as expected)

> Happy testing!
> Christoph

You are welcome.

-- 
Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 -editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 03:00:55
Message: <60dc16a7$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.06.2021 um 08:48 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

>> The update povwin-v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-setup.exe does not download 
>> (correctly). I only get an empty file: 0 bytes. Using Win10.
>>
> 
> OK. Skip that. Firefox blocked the download.

Did FF give any particular reason for that? And how did you get past it?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 - editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 03:06:08
Message: <60dc17e0$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.06.2021 um 08:59 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

>> (4) Copy `povcmax32.dll` and `povcmax64.dll` (but _no_ other DLLs, not 
>> even `povcmax32-sse2.dll`) from the `.../POV-Ray/v3.7/bin` directory 
>> of your existing v3.7 installation into the corresponding directory of 
>> the new installation.
>>
> OK
> (Some extra grumbling about admins rights)

Something along the lines of, "to copy any stuff into this directory, 
you need admin rights; do you think you deserve those rights (Yes/No)?", 
I presume?

As you probably guessed already, that's perfectly normal at that step.


Thanks for testing.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 04:06:03
Message: <60dc25eb$1@news.povray.org>
Op 30-6-2021 om 09:00 schreef clipka:
> Am 30.06.2021 um 08:48 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> 
>>> The update povwin-v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-setup.exe does not 
>>> download (correctly). I only get an empty file: 0 bytes. Using Win10.
>>>
>>
>> OK. Skip that. Firefox blocked the download.
> 
> Did FF give any particular reason for that? And how did you get past it?

To tell the truth, I am a bit mystified. It happened on my other laptop 
(not the present one I am using) and apparently there is there an 
extension/add-on there which 'controls' the downloads. Very first time I 
got an action from it by the way. I need to go back there and see what 
it is exactly; it does not reside on the present laptop and I cannot 
find it (rapid browse) in the Firefox add-ons or extensions.

Anyway, when I found out it blocked the download, I could tell it to 
download anyway, and it did.

I shall come back later on this when I find out the truth. ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 -editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 04:08:35
Message: <60dc2683@news.povray.org>
Op 30-6-2021 om 09:06 schreef clipka:
> Am 30.06.2021 um 08:59 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> 
>>> (4) Copy `povcmax32.dll` and `povcmax64.dll` (but _no_ other DLLs, 
>>> not even `povcmax32-sse2.dll`) from the `.../POV-Ray/v3.7/bin` 
>>> directory of your existing v3.7 installation into the corresponding 
>>> directory of the new installation.
>>>
>> OK
>> (Some extra grumbling about admins rights)
> 
> Something along the lines of, "to copy any stuff into this directory, 
> you need admin rights; do you think you deserve those rights (Yes/No)?", 
> I presume?
> 
> As you probably guessed already, that's perfectly normal at that step.
> 
Yes, that was the message.

> 
> Thanks for testing.

Happy to be of service :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Technical verification buildv3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 05:11:40
Message: <60dc354c$1@news.povray.org>
Op 30-6-2021 om 10:06 schreef Thomas de Groot:
> I shall come back later on this when I find out the truth. ;-)
> 
In Firefox, when downloading a file, you get an icon in the toolbar saying:
"Display the progress of ongoing downloads (Ctrl+J)"

In the present case, download was interrupted with the message:
"This file is not commonly downloaded"

and you can go to a menu with explanation about safety and viruses, and 
the possibility to go on downloading or delete the file.

First time I experienced this.

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Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Technical verificationbuildv3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669-editorDLLchanges
Date: 30 Jun 2021 07:09:24
Message: <60dc50e4$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.06.2021 um 11:11 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

> In the present case, download was interrupted with the message:
> "This file is not commonly downloaded"

Ah! Yes, that makes sense. It _is_ indeed a file that is not commonly 
downloaded. An unsigned executable, none the less. So a download filter 
has every reason to have some level of mistrust.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Technical verification build v3.8.0-beta.x.cmedit.669 - editor DLLchanges
Date: 1 Jul 2021 05:55:51
Message: <60dd9127$1@news.povray.org>
Am 29.06.2021 um 12:07 schrieb clipka:
> We would like your feedback...
> 
> - whether you do indeed see the expected behavior (and if not, what 
> divergent behavior you are seeing)
> - what version of Windows you are using
> - which of the three POV-Ray binaries is actually being run on your 
> system (32-bit, 32-bit SSE2 or 64-bit; see version information in the 
> Message Window)

So far, we have the following results:

- Windows 10: Ok
- Windows 8.1: Ok

Still to be checked:

- Windows 8
- Windows 7
- Windows Vista

- Windows Server 2019
- Windows Server 2016
- Windows Server 2012 R2
- Windows Server 2012
- Windows Server 2008 R2
- Windows Server 2008

While I'm sure we won't get test results for all of these, we'd really 
like some results for Vista. If it works there, I guess we can 
confidently expect it to work on the other versions in between as well.


Happy Testing!
Christoph


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