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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: media will be (or is) changed?
Date: 13 Jun 2005 06:48:07
Message: <42ad6467@news.povray.org>
I read that something is still being done about media and (alpha) 
transparency, and there was talk of the defaults last month, but very little 
said lately.

There's obviously a change between 3.6.1 and 3.7 beta 5a which makes media 
darker now. Thought it a good idea to post a message here before the current 
beta expires. Maybe it's already being dealt with, but I didn't want to let 
it go without telling of it myself.

Comparison renderings of the file scenes\interior\media\micro.pov posted to 
povray.beta-test.binaries.

Bob Hughes


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From: JYR
Subject: Re: media will be (or is) changed?
Date: 13 Jun 2005 11:20:00
Message: <web.42ada38cdb562bc76a3607400@news.povray.org>
"Bob Hughes" <bob### [at] charternet> wrote:
> Comparison renderings of the file scenesinteriormediamicro.pov posted to
> povray.beta-test.binaries.

OTOH, there is a known difference in the way gamma correction is done
between 3.6.1a and 3.7.beta5a. This file renders exactly the same if
assumed_gamma is set at 2.2 instead of 1...

JYR


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: media will be (or is) changed?
Date: 13 Jun 2005 14:00:12
Message: <42adc9ac$1@news.povray.org>
"JYR" <jyr### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.42ada38cdb562bc76a3607400@news.povray.org...
>
> OTOH, there is a known difference in the way gamma correction is done
> between 3.6.1a and 3.7.beta5a. This file renders exactly the same if
> assumed_gamma is set at 2.2 instead of 1...

Okay, I see now that using assumed_gamma 2.2 in version 3.6 did make 
micro.pov look the same for both versions.

However, something is still wrong. I was trying my own scene file in 3.7 
beta when I needed to go back to v3.6, for animation because the beta 5a 
still isn't able to animate.

Making the assumed_gamma change, as you suggested, did not correct the media 
appearance. I'm seeing an oversaturation of the media. Since I was making 
this media-filled object in 3.7 it only looks correct there. Only conclusion 
I can make is that something isn't handling the media in the same way 
between the two versions.

The clue might be that the density is greater than 1, and now, after 
checking with it set to only rgb <1,1,1> I see it seems to fix the look of 
it.

Could density be getting clipped in some way in 3.7 beta 5a?

Bob Hughes


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: media will be (or is) changed?
Date: 13 Jun 2005 14:16:34
Message: <42adcd82$1@news.povray.org>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> There's obviously a change between 3.6.1 and 3.7 beta 5a which makes media 
> darker now.

This is still the same bug that was initially listed.  Nothing has changed 
in this regard, it is still a bug.

	Thorsten


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: media will be (or is) changed?
Date: 13 Jun 2005 14:24:09
Message: <42adcf49$1@news.povray.org>
"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message 
news:42adcd82$1@news.povray.org...
> Bob Hughes wrote:
>> There's obviously a change between 3.6.1 and 3.7 beta 5a which makes 
>> media darker now.
>
> This is still the same bug that was initially listed.  Nothing has changed 
> in this regard, it is still a bug.

Okay, thanks. While reading about media problems from earlier I thought this 
might be different somehow.

Bob Hughes


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