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Hi,
is there any hope to get the unix version of povray-3.5-beta or
better yet the first release any time soon ? I would like to
framiliarize myself with some of the new functions to update my programs
that generate input for povray. I may be the exception but I live in a
virtually PC and Mac free environment - only recently when I was on
vacation I had access to a pc and installed the beta version of
povray3.5 which I found to be quite nice after several hours struggle to
understand the documentation about mesh2 - but I digress.
In short: I would like to get a unix version beta or non-beta. How long
will I have to wait roughly ?
Thanks,
Lothar.
--
Dr. Lothar Esser
NIH / NCI
Tel. 301-435-6163
email les### [at] helix nihgov
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Lothar Esser wrote:
>
> Hi,
> is there any hope to get the unix version of povray-3.5-beta or
> better yet the first release any time soon ?
I can tell you that it is actively being addressed by the POV-Team but
there is no release date available at this time. I would -guess- within
a month, maybe less, but caution you this is only a guess.
--
Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:38:04 -0400, Lothar Esser
<les### [at] helixnihgov> wrote:
>Hi,
> is there any hope to get the unix version of povray-3.5-beta or
>better yet the first release any time soon ?
A release won't be available until after the beta rounds are over.
That's normal.
The Unix folk among those with access to the source code repository
are actively working on it, this I can assure you. Whether a generic
Unix source distribution of the betas will be available is heavily
under question and I seriously doubt it. Maybe a binary will be
available for Linux (and maybe Solaris) but these are just maybes that
come from me and not the Team nor TAG.
So for now, keep your fingers crossed, hold your breath and if you
have Wine, try installing POV under Wine. While not officially
supported by the Team, I'm sure it'll be interesting to see how well
it behaves. You're not the only one with barely any Windows access...
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
: A release won't be available until after the beta rounds are over.
: That's normal.
A beta-release of binaries only might be possible (although I don't know
anything for sure).
--
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}// - Warp -
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Peter Popov wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:38:04 -0400, Lothar Esser
> <les### [at] helixnihgov> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> > is there any hope to get the unix version of povray-3.5-beta or
> >better yet the first release any time soon ?
>
> A release won't be available until after the beta rounds are over.
> That's normal.
>
> The Unix folk among those with access to the source code repository
> are actively working on it, this I can assure you. Whether a generic
> Unix source distribution of the betas will be available is heavily
> under question and I seriously doubt it. Maybe a binary will be
> available for Linux (and maybe Solaris) but these are just maybes that
> come from me and not the Team nor TAG.
>
> So for now, keep your fingers crossed, hold your breath and if you
> have Wine, try installing POV under Wine. While not officially
> supported by the Team, I'm sure it'll be interesting to see how well
> it behaves. You're not the only one with barely any Windows access...
Never questioned that people are working on it. I guess I am just a bit
anxious to get my hands on it. Sorry. BTW why Linux or Solaris binaries
if at all ? What about good old Irix and OSF ???
Oh well I guess I just have to wait.
Lothar
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:38:16 -0400, Lothar Esser wrote:
>anxious to get my hands on it. Sorry. BTW why Linux or Solaris binaries
>if at all ? What about good old Irix and OSF ???
>Oh well I guess I just have to wait.
Availability. That is to say, I have a Linux machine on which to build and
test such binaries, so those are the binaries that will be available. Until
the beta period is over, we won't be releasing source code (due to the
unfortunate actions of a few misguided people during the 3.0 beta, if I
recall correctly.) One of the TAG members (Warp) may be able to build and
test Solaris binaries, though nobody's asked him yet and I don't presume to
speak for him (or anyone else.)
--
#local R=<7084844682857967,0787982,826975826580>;#macro L(P)concat(#while(P)chr(
mod(P,100)),#local P=P/100;#end"")#end background{rgb 1}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.y)0,0
translate<-.8,0,-1>}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.z)0,0translate<-1.6,-.75,-1>}sphere{z/9e3
4/26/2001finish{reflection 1}}//ron.parker@povray.org My opinions, nobody else's
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In article <3s4bqtslnrdcid2coe4dtpdpb0grert61c@4ax.com>, "Peter Popov"
<pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
> So for now, keep your fingers crossed, hold your breath and if you have
> Wine, try installing POV under Wine. While not officially supported by
> the Team, I'm sure it'll be interesting to see how well it behaves.
> You're not the only one with barely any Windows access...
My computer dual-boots into Windows 2000, so while I don't have massive
withdrawl symptoms, rebooting is a pain. I therefore tried running POV
3.5 beta2 under Wine. Essentially, it starts up, gives a few errors, then
shows the full GUI -- with the messages pane completely blank. All of the
menus and buttons look functional, but attempting to load or render a file
causes it to hang.
Anyways, that's all I got it to do. Hope others are more successful
than I.
- Alex Vandiver
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Ron Parker wrote:
> recall correctly.) One of the TAG members (Warp) may be able to build and
> test Solaris binaries, though nobody's asked him yet and I don't presume to
> speak for him (or anyone else.)
>
I have a Sun/Solaris box! Maybe I can grab a binary and
try to run it... I'm also lookin for an HP-UX box...
--
Thierry B.
fabriquant d'objets http://la.buvette.org/exPOV/
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tontonTh <tth### [at] buvetteorg> wrote:
: I have a Sun/Solaris box! Maybe I can grab a binary and
: try to run it... I'm also lookin for an HP-UX box...
This is no problem to me. I can post the Solaris binary somewhere.
Is it ok?
On the other hand, I can't post a pure beta7 because some things have
changed since then (it would be a kind of beta 7 and a half), but I don't
think that's a big sin.
(I have also fixed a couple of things myself, eg. the PNG gamma correction
problem, but I can revert to the original version easily. I think I shouldn't
be distributing a version hacked by me.)
--
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}// - Warp -
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Warp wrote:
> I think I shouldn't
> be distributing a version hacked by me.
If you fixed some bugs, why not? I think you shouldn't be distributing a
version with known bugs which could have been already fixed.
--
Jonathan.
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JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
: If you fixed some bugs, why not?
Because it's not my duty to fix bugs by miself and distribute a "hacked"
version of the beta. If someone reports a bug in that version which isn't
really in the original version (ie. the bug is caused by me) that just makes
it more diffifult for the team to track.
--
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}// - Warp -
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Ok. I always confuse a member of the TAG with a member of the POV-team...
--
Jonathan.
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3be1a389@news.povray.org...
> JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : If you fixed some bugs, why not?
>
> Because it's not my duty to fix bugs by miself and distribute a "hacked"
> version of the beta. If someone reports a bug in that version which isn't
> really in the original version (ie. the bug is caused by me) that just
makes
> it more diffifult for the team to track.
>
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}// - Warp -
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JRG wrote:
>
> Ok. I always confuse a member of the TAG with a member of the POV-team...
Just think of us as Santa's helpers.
--
Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group
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Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group, wrote:
> Just think of us as Santa's helpers.
Yes, I like the idea of many little dwarfs being helping us from who knows
where...
(but this is a little OT...)
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On 1 Nov 2001 12:45:29 -0500, Warp wrote:
> tontonTh <tth### [at] buvetteorg> wrote:
>: I have a Sun/Solaris box! Maybe I can grab a binary and
>: try to run it... I'm also lookin for an HP-UX box...
>
> This is no problem to me. I can post the Solaris binary somewhere.
> Is it ok?
I don't know. I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all! Not
even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
testers.
Warp, let me get with Chris about this and find a place to put them that
won't cause bandwidth problems for us. Come find me in the other place and
we'll see what we can do about providing some Unix stuff.
--
plane{-z,-3normal{crackle scale.2#local a=5;#while(a)warp{repeat x flip x}rotate
z*60#local a=a-1;#end translate-9*x}pigment{rgb 1}}light_source{-9red 1rotate 60
*z}light_source{-9rgb y rotate-z*60}light_source{9-z*18rgb z}text{ttf"arial.ttf"
"RP".01,0translate-<.6,.4,.02>pigment{bozo}}light_source{-z*3rgb-.2}//Ron Parker
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Ron Parker wrote:
>
> I don't know. I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
> minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all! Not
> even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
> testers.
I suppose this does not mean the 'regular' pre-beta testers, i have never
seen a linux version until now.
Christoph
--
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:13:20 +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>
>
> Ron Parker wrote:
>>
>> I don't know. I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
>> minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all! Not
>> even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
>> testers.
>
> I suppose this does not mean the 'regular' pre-beta testers, i have never
> seen a linux version until now.
That is correct. I asked for some help from the pre-beta folks, but nobody
replied so I looked elsewhere. Given the amount of demand there is for a
Linux version, you'd think it would be easier to find help with these things.
As it is, I'll probably be putting online real soon now a binary that is only
guaranteed to work on one Linux machine, mine, and that one doesn't run what
any sane person would call a standard distribution (Caldera OpenLinux 2.2
with upgraded kernel, runtime, and compiler, and painfully recent versions
of the standard graphics libs [1])
[1] Though I've heeded the advice of one TAG member who actually did report
back on his experiences and dropped back to the old PNG library in deference
to a certain broken package manager whose initials are RPM.
--
#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbf 1}hollow interior{media{emission 3-T}}}#end
Z(-x-x.2x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90normal{bumps.02scale.05}}
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On 5 Nov 2001 15:41:54 -0500, Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg>
wrote:
>On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:13:20 +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ron Parker wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know. I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
>>> minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all! Not
>>> even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
>>> testers.
I have a fresh Mandrake 8.1 Linux install right of the downloaded cd
images, but I'm _extremely_ new to linux or any other unix variant
(DKB-Trace 2.04 to POV-Ray 0.5 was last time I've used unix, and I
only learned enough unix commands to compile and run, ftp-ed files
back and forth to avoid learning a new editor). Letting me test will
require installing-for-dummies-type instructions.
/Erkki
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Ron Parker wrote:
>
> That is correct. I asked for some help from the pre-beta folks, but nobody
> replied so I looked elsewhere. Given the amount of demand there is for a
> Linux version, you'd think it would be easier to find help with these things.
Although i could not find the relevant post i remember it was mainly about
the documentation, IIRC it was not clear what things exactly need to be
written.
Concerning a linux binary release, this would surely be nice, but what
requires beta testing is IMO not so much the binary but the whole
distribution (including scene/include files and install script etc.)
Christoph
--
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 23:53:05 +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Concerning a linux binary release, this would surely be nice, but what
> requires beta testing is IMO not so much the binary but the whole
> distribution (including scene/include files and install script etc.)
Well, scene/include files are of course the same ones that you already get
with the Windows distro, and an install script might be a luxury that won't
be available for a while, since I'm not exactly the biggest Linux expert
myself. I basically took this over on an interim basis until Mark Gordon
can work his way out from under the deluge of Real Life. So, at least for
the duration of the beta, it's likely to be a binary and the extra files
and a smile and a handshake.
--
#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbf 1}hollow interior{media{emission 3-T}}}#end
Z(-x-x.2x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90normal{bumps.02scale.05}}
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Ron Parker wrote:
>
> Well, scene/include files are of course the same ones that you already get
> with the Windows distro, and an install script might be a luxury that won't
> be available for a while, since I'm not exactly the biggest Linux expert
> myself. I basically took this over on an interim basis until Mark Gordon
> can work his way out from under the deluge of Real Life. So, at least for
> the duration of the beta, it's likely to be a binary and the extra files
> and a smile and a handshake.
>
I understand, but then it's probably not very useful to try writing the
platform specific docs now. They will mostly have to deal with the
supplementary files and not the binary itself.
Christoph
--
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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