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  Re: POV-Ray v3.8.0-beta.1 issue #410  
From: jr
Date: 6 Aug 2021 09:50:00
Message: <web.610d3c9a5f6dda2a5e0fed26cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 05.08.2021 um 18:02 schrieb jr:
>
> > anyway, the whole thing makes me wonder why you .. bother.  *NIX-ness is not a
> > high priority for you, I feel, so why even have tarballs?  would just "git
> > clone" not be preferential?
>
> I think that's a severe misunderstanding.
>
> My *NIX expertise is very low, that's why I'm not doing much for *NIX.
>
> That doesn't mean I don't care. It just means I can't do.

glad to read this.  (very) probably I read too much into things.  (like your
post re declare=X=Y syntax, where you wrote using a "faux Windows command line";
cannot imagine a shortage of (computing) resource on your side, so wondered why
isn't he using a VM with a BSD or some Linux, then a "real" command-line would
be at hand)


> > (this rant is "tainted" -- probably -- by your mentioning that even the POV-Ray
> > development code resides "in the cloud" now rather than on own(ed) server(s))
>
> It has been ever since we moved to a Git-based solution, right at the
> time of the 3.7.0.0 release.
> ...
> We also got some feedback and contributions via GitHub that we might not
> have gotten otherwise. Certainly not on as large a scale as in CompuServ
> times, but still.
>
> Among those who got into touch with us were the folks who maintain the
> "homebrew" packages to provide *NIX software for MacOS. Which put
> official MacOS compatibility back on the menu, after it had already
> dropped off the back of the truck in the years prior.

additional channels of communication is useful.


> ...
> And a developers' manual, just because we could. I had already set up a
> few scripts and configs for that purpose years ago for my own use, but
> never got around to setting up a channel for publishing the generated
> documents.

moot, of course, but wonder whether publishing that to the wiki would have been
so very different (time+effort-wise).


> ...
> There's no fault in being somewhat suspicious of 3rd party services like
> GitHub. But let that not blind you to their benefits.

personally, my main "beef" with such sites is that in order to orient myself and
look at some info, my browser has to divulge all sorts of info about the system
it's running on.  and a requirement to create an account just to comment/add an
issue? when a captcha to confirm it's not a bot would do.  (the IP address is
logged anyway)


> Division of labour has been one of the most efficient strategies in the
> history of humanity, and this is just another application of that principle.

sure.  true also of alternatives, like eg 'fossil'.


regards, jr.


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