Hello,

I'm trying to make a DVD out of a file I converted with TMPGenc using the
DVD NTSC option.  It turned my AVI into a 33MB M2V file.  I then used my
Roxio CD Creator to supposedly write the file (data option) to the DVD.  It
took about 3 minutes and quit.  I tried to play the DVD on our DVD player
and it wouldn't play it.  I looked on the DVD on the computer and there
doesn't show any files on it, but I can look on the DVD physically and it
looks
burned.

Can you tell me what's wrong?  Is my copy of Roxio CD Creator too cheap?
The only option was to finalize the session, not finalize the CD.  The
finalize
CD option was greyed out.  Is that the problem?  Or is it that I'm using an
option for a data write.  Can I write the data to the DVD with TMPGenc?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,  miker

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"Michael Robison" <zsp### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
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>
> I'm trying to make a DVD out of a file I converted with TMPGenc using the
> DVD NTSC option.  It turned my AVI into a 33MB M2V file.  I then used my
> Roxio CD Creator to supposedly write the file (data option) to the DVD.
>
> Can you tell me what's wrong?  Is my copy of Roxio CD Creator too cheap?
> The only option was to finalize the session, not finalize the CD.  The
> finalize
> CD option was greyed out.  Is that the problem?  Or is it that I'm using
an
> option for a data write.  Can I write the data to the DVD with TMPGenc?

I'm confused. I have the Roxio VideoWave Movie Creator software but I don't
know about the "CD Creator" making DVD's... It really has that capability?
:-)  Oh. I just found an article saying it was added to Easy CD Creator a
year ago. Nevermind.

You said "data option". Wouldn't that only place the file onto the disk
without preparing it for DVD playback? Could be that's the trouble right
there.

I've made a only few CD's (VCD) and DVD's but it usually goes okay. I've had
trouble with multiple animation files though, I'm guessing when they
encounter that PBC thing (Play Back Control) used in the player. I don't
know much about it really. What'll happen is they freeze-frame at scene
changes and not play that segment. Must move on to next one to continue. I
haven't made any in a long time so I don't know anything more.

Aside from that, CD-R's, CD-RW's and DVD+RW's (I only have the plus kind)
seem to have done well in the two cheap Apex players I've had.

I've only used TMPGEnc for MPG's going to CD (VCD) so I don't know about the
DVD option. Looking at www.dvdrhelp.com I see there's a specific "authoring"
version. You might want to have a look at that web site anyhow, if you
haven't yet. Plenty of info there.

I've also heard people say bit-rate tweaking can be a real issue for audio
sync I suppose, but heck, I let the programs choose for me. Which is why I
bought a movie-making computer from Dell instead of dealing with yet more
frustration than I have already.

Good luck with it.

Bob H.

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Thanks for the comments, Bob.  I've made a VCD and played it on a DVD
player.  That worked the first time.  DVD writing is an option in Roxio, but
I haven't seen it work yet.  When I did the VCD, I believe I simply plunked
it on the CD and it was ready to roll.

I will check out the dvdrhelp site you suggested.  I'm concerned that I
can't
even see the file using Explorer on my computer.  The converted file plays
just fine on my computer.

Maybe you can give me another clue.  I've got a movie-writing Dell too, but
I haven't used the option yet.  The computer is just a few months old.  Can
you suggest ways of using the Dell-supplied software to get the DVD
burned?

Thank you for taking the time to post,

miker

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"Michael Robison" <zsp### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to make a DVD out of a file I converted with TMPGenc using the
> DVD NTSC option.  It turned my AVI into a 33MB M2V file.  I then used my
> Roxio CD Creator to supposedly write the file (data option) to the DVD.
It
> took about 3 minutes and quit.  I tried to play the DVD on our DVD player
> and it wouldn't play it.  I looked on the DVD on the computer and there
> doesn't show any files on it, but I can look on the DVD physically and it
> looks
> burned.
>
> Can you tell me what's wrong?  Is my copy of Roxio CD Creator too cheap?
> The only option was to finalize the session, not finalize the CD.  The
> finalize
> CD option was greyed out.  Is that the problem?  Or is it that I'm using
an
> option for a data write.  Can I write the data to the DVD with TMPGenc?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,  miker


IIRC, you will need some sort of DVD authoring software that will create the
contents of the VIDEO_TS folder on the DVD. I've had success with DVD Movie
Factory (ulead), This also has options to set up the menus. Also, make sure
the MPEG file is encoded as MPEG2.

Here's an article on using only free tools to get the job done (but sounds
like no menus:
http://tinyurl.com/23zbq

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"Michael Robison" <zsp### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
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>
> Maybe you can give me another clue.  I've got a movie-writing Dell too,
but
> I haven't used the option yet.  The computer is just a few months old.
Can
> you suggest ways of using the Dell-supplied software to get the DVD
> burned?

Glad to try and help.

I never had a M2V format file before, so that's new to me. Mine are always
MPEG done as NTFS compatible. I've used the Sonic's MyDVD to do the actual
burning because it is faster and fits more onto DVD than Roxio's VideoWave
does. I think all you'll need is the already made MPEG from TMPGEnc (type 1
or 2, and I think maybe 4 too) and drop it into MyDVD. Very quick for small
files.

You should be careful about things like automatic chaptering though, seems
like that doesn't do very good. Better to choose chapter points yourself.

I've had mine since October, but I'm still new to the whole thing too. Have
only used it for DVD-making a half dozen times.

Bob H.

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"Mike Raiford wrote:
> IIRC, you will need some sort of DVD authoring software that will create
the
> contents of the VIDEO_TS folder on the DVD. I've had success with DVD
Movie
> Factory (ulead), This also has options to set up the menus. Also, make
sure
> the MPEG file is encoded as MPEG2.
>
> Here's an article on using only free tools to get the job done (but sounds
> like no menus:
> http://tinyurl.com/23zbq

****************
I asked at work today and they told me I was off by a mile.  Just what you
just said.  I need more than just the vanilla TMPGenc.  I need the authoring
tool.  I was just converting and trying to plop it on the DVD.  Guy at work
says there's a fixed directory structure on a video DVD, and that the movie
files are of the VOB format.

And to Bob:  I don't know why I ended up with a M2V file format instead of
an MPEG.

Anyway, I've got two authoring programs that I will try as soon as possible.

Thanks you to guys for knocking this around with me.  I really appreciate
it.

Michael

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Darren New wrote:

MV2 is MPEG2 video, without audio.

***************
Ah hah!  That's it!  Thanks, Darren.  I get it now.  Because I didn't have
audio,
it created the MV2 instead of an MPEG2.

I'm armed now with two DVD authoring tools.  I've got Nero and TMPGEnc.
Since I did the initial conversion with TMPGEnc, I'll probably give it a
try.  I'll
be on travel for the rest of the week and I'll be banging on it again come
this
weekend.

I really appreciate everybody's comments.

Thanks again, Michael

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In article <403b4e00@news.povray.org> , "Michael Robison" <zsp### [at] gtenet>
wrote:

> ***************
> Ah hah!  That's it!  Thanks, Darren.  I get it now.  Because I didn't have
> audio,
> it created the MV2 instead of an MPEG2.

No, you are still confused.  It is all the same.

    Thorsten

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If anyone wants a fairly extensive overview of making DVDs on both PC and
Mac, have a look at:
http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_dvd_creation/index.htm

The article is missing the original graphics, but that won't be a problem.
It covers transcoding, authoring and burning in some detail.

Best,
Dennis

"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
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> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> > No, you are still confused.  It is all the same.
>
> I believe that internally it's all the same file format, but the
> extension is set by the program based on what streams it included, for
> ease of identification. :-)
>
> -- 
> Darren New, San Diego CA USA (PST)
>    I am in geocentric orbit, supported by
>    a quantum photon exchange drive....

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I just wanted to check back in and say thanks to everybody for posting on
this.  I downloaded the TMPGenc DVD Authoring and it worked like a charm!
I'm not certain if I need to still use the original TMPGenc flavor for
converting
my AVI to M2V or not, but since that's how I started, I'll probably continue
with
it.

I'm scared to check on how much the DVD Authoring tool is going to set me
back when the 30-day trial runs out.  I got the hots for it and I'm needing
it real
bad.  I don't care how silly and trivial they are, putting my animations on
DVD
is a blast.

Thanks, Michael

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