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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 20 Nov 2022 12:40:00
Message: <web.637a65602ef22a6b1f9dae3025979125@news.povray.org>
"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:

> Looks like we might as well discuss something else as the subject of this thread
> has died, as usual, what about your favourite colour or music, the weather is
> usually a good thing.
> If the code is out there, then where is it. If not, why not.
> Fingers crossed.

Blue.  Classic Yes.   It's November in NH, so it's cold and windy.

Given the fact that there are numerous very important things going on in the
world, seeming Hell-bent on collapsing all of Western Civilization as we know it
, bankrupting and killing most of via one means or another...

Chris Cason lives in the tyrannically oppressed nation of Australia:
"Persistence of Vision Pty. Ltd., Williamstown, Victoria, Australia."

So there may be any number of things that would be vastly more important than
getting back to this thread topic.

I hope he is in good health, his business and property are doing well and
intact, and he is able to stay warm and eat this winter.


Hopefully he will find the time to peek in and make the code available, and I
hope it's just the usual (I was busy / distracted / I forgot) and there's
nothing serious that has made him unable to do so.

And on THAT topic, I hope everyone else here in our little corner of the
internet is doing well, preparing to brave the hard times we may be confronting
in the future, and building a support network in case they find themselves in
need.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 20 Nov 2022 14:54:24
Message: <637a85f0@news.povray.org>
On 21/11/2022 04:35, Bald Eagle wrote:

> Chris Cason lives in the tyrannically oppressed nation of Australia:
> "Persistence of Vision Pty. Ltd., Williamstown, Victoria, Australia."
> 
> So there may be any number of things that would be vastly more important than
> getting back to this thread topic.
> 
> I hope he is in good health, his business and property are doing well and
> intact, and he is able to stay warm and eat this winter.
> 
> Hopefully he will find the time to peek in and make the code available, and I
> hope it's just the usual (I was busy / distracted / I forgot) and there's
> nothing serious that has made him unable to do so.

I should have posted updates sooner than now, and for that I apologize. Yes there is
'stuff' going on here that limits my time and yes some of them are health related (I'm
60 now, so not surprising I guess) but not serious.

Status of source: after some spelunking it became clear there's multiple
considerations with re-assigning the licenses to AGPL. This is not something I can
allow to get wrong, since once it's out it's out. Honestly legal issues have worried
me for a long time and is most of the reason I haven't released it.

So: with the help of forum regular JR we have classified most of the almost 1,000
source files (yes, so ... many ... files) into a few major categories in terms of what
copyright they had, where they came from, and so forth.

With each of these classifications I need to get legal advice on exactly what needs to
be done in terms of copyright headers etc. For some we may not touch them. For some,
we can add a new header but will need to keep the old ones. Some may need modification
of existing headers. Some would be suitable for removal of old headers. Some may not
be releasable at all (though I don't think this applies to anything important, as
those have been rectified in the past). And so forth.

Once I know for sure what to do and that it is safe to release with the required
modifications I will put it up on github. But I can't risk doing ot before we know
that.

So there's the status. Yes the source exists and is not a mirage, JR has seen it :-).

-- Chris


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From: jr
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 21 Nov 2022 07:05:00
Message: <web.637b68c82ef22a6bc0ce110b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> ...
> Fingers crossed.

keep doing, seems to work.  ;-)


regards, jr.


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From: Convinced
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 21 Nov 2022 12:30:00
Message: <web.637bb57b2ef22a6b183179f086ea30fe@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> "Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > ...
> > Fingers crossed.
>
> keep doing, seems to work.  ;-)
>
>
> regards, jr.

Forgive the rantings of an equally old man.
Yes we live in interesting times and we will all have to struggle on.
All power to your elbow Chris Cason.
May God bless you and all who sail with you!
Now to untangle my fingers on both hands,
Thanks


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From: And
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 21 Nov 2022 22:25:00
Message: <web.637c3fe72ef22a6b63b929a5aa81652d@news.povray.org>
I have some idea (about POV-Ray Modeler), too. But I never try it out, I just
know many people here like it.


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From: And
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 22 Nov 2022 03:15:00
Message: <web.637c84ce2ef22a6b63b929a5aa81652d@news.povray.org>
"And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> I have some idea (about POV-Ray Modeler), too. But I never try it out, I just
> know many people here like it.

I said Moray.


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From: Convinced
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 22 Nov 2022 04:10:00
Message: <web.637c91a72ef22a6b183179f086ea30fe@news.povray.org>
"And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> > I have some idea (about POV-Ray Modeler), too. But I never try it out, I just
> > know many people here like it.
>
> I said Moray.

AND?


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From: And
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 23 Nov 2022 00:10:00
Message: <web.637daae12ef22a6b63b929a5aa81652d@news.povray.org>
"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>
> AND?

Just an account name. . .


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I said I will glad to see the program continue.

My idea is about...
#declare variables in POV-Ray, can be as a table in the GUI program.


My first coding experience is from a course during college. "Applications of
Computers in Physics". We learned a program named "Easy java simulation".

https://www.um.es/fem/EjsWiki/Main/ModelVariables

It can add/remove/modify variable by click the variable table then delete/
modify one of the value.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 27 Dec 2022 10:35:40
Message: <63ab10cc$1@news.povray.org>
Just wanted to followup to say we're still moving forward. We have now received some
assistance/advice from the Software Freedom Law Center which has helped clear up some
concerns I had.

Still more to do, can't give a date yet, but it's going to happen :)

-- Chris


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