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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: New Website Online
Date: 23 Mar 2005 11:00:45
Message: <424192ad$1@news.povray.org>
Hi,
I've been using POVray along with Moray for a while, and I finally decided 
to put up a website to display my better efforts. Any feedback you could 
offer would be greatly appreciated. The url is http://www.shelbyvision.com
SteveShelby


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From: StephenS
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 23 Mar 2005 16:56:04
Message: <4241e5f4@news.povray.org>
> Hi,
> I've been using POVray along with Moray for a while, and I finally decided
> to put up a website to display my better efforts. Any feedback you could
> offer would be greatly appreciated. The url is http://www.shelbyvision.com
> SteveShelby
>
Oh my, I've made somebody's link page :-)
... Chest begins to inflate ...
... Head begins to swell ...

I like the roomscene page; unless you were planning on other languages of
your site, I would use this page as the default page.

Stephen


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 23 Mar 2005 23:09:10
Message: <42423d66$1@news.povray.org>
"StephenS" <sshonfield(at)ottawa(dot)net> wrote in message 
news:4241e5f4@news.povray.org...
-> Oh my, I've made somebody's link page :-)
> ... Chest begins to inflate ...
> ... Head begins to swell ...

Soon you will be rich and famous!
>
> I like the roomscene page; unless you were planning on other languages of
> your site, I would use this page as the default page.
>
> Stephen

The roomscene page is the one I have set as the "home" link at the top of 
each page, but I think the keyhole page is just kind of fun, and I think 
anyone who can use a mouse can figure it out, even if they can't read the 
words.
Steve


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 24 Mar 2005 03:47:06
Message: <42427e8a@news.povray.org>
I like your website Steve! Good work. The keyhole is perfect. Keeps out dumb
people ;-)
Your traditional media reminds me of the Arts and Crafts work, and has
something Middle Earthish. Very nice and powerful.

Thomas


"Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> schreef in bericht
news:424192ad$1@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I've been using POVray along with Moray for a while, and I finally decided
> to put up a website to display my better efforts. Any feedback you could
> offer would be greatly appreciated. The url is http://www.shelbyvision.com
> SteveShelby
>
>


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From: Arne Kleinophorst
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 24 Mar 2005 08:37:14
Message: <4242c28a$1@news.povray.org>
The head in Moray is cool!
I've tried something similar but finally gave up.
Great Work. Some chances to see some source?

Greets
Arne

> "Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> schreef in bericht
> news:424192ad$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>Hi,
>>I've been using POVray along with Moray for a while, and I finally decided
>>to put up a website to display my better efforts. Any feedback you could
>>offer would be greatly appreciated. The url is http://www.shelbyvision.com
>>SteveShelby
>>
>>
> 
> 
>


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 24 Mar 2005 08:49:11
Message: <4242c557$1@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message 
news:42427e8a@news.povray.org...
>I like your website Steve! Good work. The keyhole is perfect. Keeps out 
>dumb
> people ;-)

My thoughts exactly!

> Your traditional media reminds me of the Arts and Crafts work, and has
> something Middle Earthish. Very nice and powerful.
>
> Thomas

Thank you. I had been away from the art world for almost 30 years before I 
started making those pieces. I think they are as purely "me" as possible, 
since I never look at anyone else's work. I just strive for total honesty; 
that is, honesty to the material, to "natural" forms, and the process by 
which the metal is formed.
Steve


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 24 Mar 2005 09:18:56
Message: <4242cc50@news.povray.org>
"Arne Kleinophorst" <kle### [at] spamdebitelnet> wrote in message 
news:4242c28a$1@news.povray.org...
> The head in Moray is cool!
> I've tried something similar but finally gave up.
> Great Work. Some chances to see some source?
>
> Greets
> Arne
>
Thank you. I spent weeks on that head. Sometime I hope to tackle the hair 
problem, but I know that will also take weeks of my time, and I don't think 
it can be done in Moray.
I posted the source in moray.binaries.
Steve


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 25 Mar 2005 03:05:03
Message: <4243c62f@news.povray.org>
"Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> schreef in bericht
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>
> Thank you. I had been away from the art world for almost 30 years before I
> started making those pieces. I think they are as purely "me" as possible,
> since I never look at anyone else's work. I just strive for total honesty;
> that is, honesty to the material, to "natural" forms, and the process by
> which the metal is formed.
> Steve
>
Yes, one can see that in your work. It is a philosophy that I am familiar
with, one that I try to follow in life.

Thomas


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From: Stefan Persson
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 25 Mar 2005 19:55:04
Message: <4244b2e8$1@news.povray.org>
Nice to see a page that focus on Moray..
and not just POV-Ray.. enough paw-coders
out there.. IMHO ;)

The only thing I might have an oppinion on is
the change in themes on the different pages..
A nice little touch would be to keep the
first theme (not the keyhole one..) on all
pages.. just a suggestion..

Any chanse that you could keep a repository
of models? I don't mean to be disrespectful,
but the official Moray page somewhat.. ehr.. lacks
updates..

Looking forward to see your page develop :)

Regards,
Stefan

"Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> skrev i meddelandet 
news:424192ad$1@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I've been using POVray along with Moray for a while, and I finally decided 
> to put up a website to display my better efforts. Any feedback you could 
> offer would be greatly appreciated. The url is http://www.shelbyvision.com
> SteveShelby
>


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 28 Mar 2005 12:37:43
Message: <424840e7$1@news.povray.org>
"Stefan Persson" <azy### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4244b2e8$1@news.povray.org...
> Nice to see a page that focus on Moray..
> and not just POV-Ray.. enough paw-coders
> out there.. IMHO ;)

Thank you. I agree, there really isn't much mention of Moray out there.
>
> The only thing I might have an oppinion on is
> the change in themes on the different pages..
> A nice little touch would be to keep the
> first theme (not the keyhole one..) on all
> pages.. just a suggestion..

Good suggestion. I might do that eventually, maybe one page at a time, since 
it takes so much time.
>
> Any chanse that you could keep a repository
> of models? I don't mean to be disrespectful,
> but the official Moray page somewhat.. ehr.. lacks
> updates..
>
> Looking forward to see your page develop :)
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
Do you mean a place where Moray users could upload their mdl files? I could 
do that; I'd have to create a new page for it and set up an ftp site. No big 
problem.
Steve


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From: Model Citizen
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 2 Apr 2005 18:30:00
Message: <web.424f2a03334815d5e89005b0@news.povray.org>
Steve,

Very nice face/head model.  Did you build it from scratch?  What shape did
you start with, and what basic steps did you take?

Model Citizen


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 2 Apr 2005 19:24:44
Message: <424f37cc@news.povray.org>
"Model Citizen" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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> Steve,
>
> Very nice face/head model.  Did you build it from scratch?  What shape did
> you start with, and what basic steps did you take?
>
> Model Citizen
>
Thank you. I did make it from scratch. I started with a sphere. I really 
can't give you any step-by-step descriptions of how I made it, since it took 
probably thousands of individual steps. A lot of moving faces out or in, 
moving points, splitting faces, merging faces, etc. The ear I modeled away 
from the head, so I could see what I was doing. The whole thing took me 
several weeks, working an hour or two every day. It was definitely not an 
easy task. One good thing about it is that with that basic head already 
made, I can take it, and in a comparably short time, make a different 
looking face, by changing the shape of the nose, the general width of the 
head, size of the eyes, etc. I posted the mdl file in moray.binaries. You 
could probably learn a lot by studying the mesh in the mesh edit views.
Steve Shelby


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From: Model Citizen
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 2 Apr 2005 22:20:00
Message: <web.424f602e334815d8d3a7dd0@news.povray.org>
Steve,

Thanks for the reply.  That is enough to get me started.  "started with a
sphere", "moving faces out or in, moving points, splitting faces, merging
faces, etc." "ear ... modeled away from the head".

Did you import a photo to use as a guide while you were dragging points and
faces?

Are the left/right sides mirrored, or modeled individually?

Model Citizen


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 2 Apr 2005 22:52:31
Message: <424f687f$1@news.povray.org>
"Model Citizen" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  That is enough to get me started.  "started with a
> sphere", "moving faces out or in, moving points, splitting faces, merging
> faces, etc." "ear ... modeled away from the head".
>
> Did you import a photo to use as a guide while you were dragging points 
> and
> faces?
>
> Are the left/right sides mirrored, or modeled individually?
>
> Model Citizen
>
The second ear is mirrored. When moving things in or out I used point mode 
and selected the corresponding points on both sides and used either scale or 
translate to move them in in the desired way.
Steve


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From: Model Citizen
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 2 Apr 2005 23:35:01
Message: <web.424f7187334815d4d0d8c490@news.povray.org>
Steve

Thanks again for the info...
"used point mode and selected the corresponding points on both sides and
used either scale or translate to move them in in the desired way."  That
makes sense to me!

Did you import a photo to use as a guide?

(almost done asking dumb questions)
Model Citizen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 3 Apr 2005 03:25:15
Message: <424f9a5b@news.povray.org>
"Model Citizen" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht
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>
> (almost done asking dumb questions)

I think they are very important questions!
For what it is worth, there are some excellent head tutorials at the
Wings3D, Silo or other sites. They can help with building in Moray, I think.

Some links:
                 http://www.nevercenter.com/tutorials/
                 http://www.nevercenter.com/tutorials/

http://www.thehobbitguy.com/tutorials/polymodeling/index.html

http://p212.ezboard.com/fnendowingsmiraifrm3.showMessage?topicID=249.topic

Thomas


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 3 Apr 2005 08:12:28
Message: <424fddac@news.povray.org>
"Model Citizen" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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>
> Did you import a photo to use as a guide?
>
> (almost done asking dumb questions)
> Model Citizen
>
Well, I didn't for the head itself, although, looking back on it, it would 
have made it a lot easier. When I got to the ear, which turned out to be the 
hardest part, I used a photo as backdrop.
Steve


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From: leseur sylvain
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 6 Apr 2005 02:47:38
Message: <4253860a$1@news.povray.org>
"Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> a écrit dans le message de
news:424192ad$1@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I've been using POVray along with Moray for a while, and I finally decided
> to put up a website to display my better efforts. Any feedback you could
> offer would be greatly appreciated. The url is http://www.shelbyvision.com
> SteveShelby
>
Thanks Steve
Great website, good presentation, good links etc
Friendly
Sylvain


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From: Lutz Kretzschmar
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 15 Apr 2005 02:44:09
Message: <viou51ttnc92p4auec9353i0ok6sguuh67@4ax.com>
Hi Stefan Persson, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> I don't mean to be disrespectful,
> but the official Moray page somewhat.. ehr.. lacks
> updates..
I agree completely and I wish that there were more regular updates,
but the truth is I haven't received any models in the last two years
or so.....

Regards,

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 15 Apr 2005 04:56:10
Message: <425f81aa$1@news.povray.org>
"Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> a écrit dans le message de
news:viou51ttnc92p4auec9353i0ok6sguuh67@4ax.com...
> I agree completely and I wish that there were more regular updates,
> but the truth is I haven't received any models in the last two years
> or so.....
>
Maybe there is a problem, I remembeer  having sent a guitar, a bass guitar
and a lighthouse 3 years ago.
The plugin page is more up  to  date though

Marc


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: New Website Online
Date: 16 Apr 2005 03:03:43
Message: <4260b8cf@news.povray.org>
"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht
news:425f81aa$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Lutz Kretzschmar" <lut### [at] stmuccom> a écrit dans le message de
> news:viou51ttnc92p4auec9353i0ok6sguuh67@4ax.com...
> > I agree completely and I wish that there were more regular updates,
> > but the truth is I haven't received any models in the last two years
> > or so.....
> >
> Maybe there is a problem, I remembeer  having sent a guitar, a bass guitar
> and a lighthouse 3 years ago.
> The plugin page is more up  to  date though
>
> Marc
>
I remember having sent some objects too.....   :-(

Thomas


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