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From: Neil Kolban
Subject: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 00:36:43
Message: <41cbaaeb$1@news.povray.org>
Folks,
I have just about completed a new plugin for Moray.

Often, I find myself having to step outside of Moray to create some
capabilities in native POV-Ray such as isosurface, sky_sphere and more.
There already exists some fine plugins for including code into a Moray scene
but when this is entered, it has no visual representation on Moray's views.
This makes it extremely difficult to transform (scale, transform, rotate) as
it has no visual on the screen.  This new plugin allows us to build a POV
scene fragment, save it in an ".inc" file (using POV-Ray) and then add that
file into our Moray composition.  The inclusion shows as a wire frame box in
the scene which can be transformed.  When sent to POV-Ray for rendering, the
result is a:

----------------------------------------------
union
{
   #include "filename.inc"
  <transforms here>
}
----------------------------------------------

in the POV-Ray scene.

I have had a devil of a time getting my mind around the plugin technologies
but all seems to be working.  What I am looking for is some feedback on how
useful this would be to others beyond myself.  If you are interested in
testing, let me know and I'll send you a download link.

Please don't email me as I run a "white-list" and if I don't know your email
address before you send me mail, it gets automatically junked (spam etc
etc).  Please post back here for correspondence.

If anyone has a good "name" for the plugin, that would be great too...

So far I have been thinking "POV Include" but that isn't hardened.

Neil


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 04:25:13
Message: <41cbe079@news.povray.org>

news:41cbaaeb$1@news.povray.org...
> Folks,
> I have just about completed a new plugin for Moray.
>
That's a neat idea!
I can't help in any way about plugin technology.
Could it be possible to put your plugin object into a group so that it is
transformed and/or duplicated with the group?
For the name, I have no better idea than yours.

Regards

Marc


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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 04:36:42
Message: <soons0hdobre5n5j990viou6ouehmeake9@4ax.com>
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:59:44 +0100, "Marc Jacquier"
<jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote:

>

>news:41cbaaeb$1@news.povray.org...
>> Folks,
>> I have just about completed a new plugin for Moray.
>>
>That's a neat idea!
>I can't help in any way about plugin technology.
>Could it be possible to put your plugin object into a group so that it is
>transformed and/or duplicated with the group?
>For the name, I have no better idea than yours.
>
Yes, I agree with Marc, grouping would be a good thing. I would like
to try it.


Regards
        Stephen


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From: leseur sylvain
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 04:39:26
Message: <41cbe3ce$1@news.povray.org>
Great.
I agree with Stephen and Marc
Friendly
Sylvain

news:soons0hdobre5n5j990viou6ouehmeake9@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:59:44 +0100, "Marc Jacquier"
> <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote:
>
> >

> >news:41cbaaeb$1@news.povray.org...
> >> Folks,
> >> I have just about completed a new plugin for Moray.
> >>
> >That's a neat idea!
> >I can't help in any way about plugin technology.
> >Could it be possible to put your plugin object into a group so that it is
> >transformed and/or duplicated with the group?
> >For the name, I have no better idea than yours.
> >
> Yes, I agree with Marc, grouping would be a good thing. I would like
> to try it.
>
>
> Regards
>         Stephen


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 08:11:07
Message: <41cc156b$1@news.povray.org>
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Kolban" <kol### [at] kolbancom>
Newsgroups: moray.win
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 12:36 AM
Subject: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted


> Folks,
> I have just about completed a new plugin for Moray.

Excellent idea! I've been wishing for something like this. I have tried
those plugins that do not show a representation in Moray, and have given up
and just made the scene directly in Povray. To me, the only advantage Moray
has is the ability to see where things are before rendering. I'd be
interested in testing your plugin when it's ready.
Steve Shelby


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 09:35:57
Message: <41cc294d@news.povray.org>
Hi Neil!

I do agree with all the previous speakers. I think your plugin is an
excellent idea.
Testing? Yes please! I would be honored!  :-)

Thomas


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From: Neil Kolban
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 11:27:45
Message: <41cc4381$1@news.povray.org>
Wow, thanks my friends!!  What a response!!  I go to bed, get up and 10
hours later lots of responses :-)

As you can see by the posting time, its Christmas ... and I have to go to my
in laws in North Texas (3 hours drive - 2 nights - 3 hours drive) ... I am
on vacation all next week though :-)

The reason I mention this, it will be Sunday before I can package it up for
sending.  I have a web site and will create a page there to host the plugin
with docs.   Thanks again for all the feedback.  Lets continue to use this
newsgroup / thread for discussions if possible.

Happy hollidays ... more on Sunday ...

Neil


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From: Neil Kolban
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 11:32:56
Message: <41cc44b8$1@news.povray.org>
Guys,

Thanks for the comments ... all great!!!

Grouping and duplication will work just fine.  The Moray plugin environment
provides exactly that capability.  If we have a "POV Include" object in a
group, that will inject a "#include" into the POV script scene for each
duplicate.  For grouping, any transformation performed on the group will be
reflected in the transformation for the "POV Include".

I hope to get the Plugin (1st beta) on the web on Sunday.

Neil


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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 24 Dec 2004 13:25:47
Message: <5pnos01ovbjfu3h5dind4nac7khf2unche@4ax.com>
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:27:44 -0600, "Neil Kolban" <kol### [at] kolbancom>
wrote:

>As you can see by the posting time, its Christmas ... and I have to go to my
>in laws in North Texas (3 hours drive - 2 nights - 3 hours drive) ... I am
>on vacation all next week though :-)
Wimp :-) It takes 8-10 hours for me to drive home and that doesn't
include "border" time.
Have a nice Christmas.


Regards
        Stephen


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Early beta: A POV include file plugin - comments wanted
Date: 25 Dec 2004 04:54:56
Message: <41cd38f0$1@news.povray.org>

news:41cc44b8$1@news.povray.org...
> Guys,
>
> Thanks for the comments ... all great!!!
>
> Grouping and duplication will work just fine.  The Moray plugin
environment
> provides exactly that capability.  If we have a "POV Include" object in a
> group, that will inject a "#include" into the POV script scene for each
> duplicate.  For grouping, any transformation performed on the group will
be
> reflected in the transformation for the "POV Include".
>
> I hope to get the Plugin (1st beta) on the web on Sunday.
>
> Neil
>
>
Great!!!
I hope I'll find time to test your plugin, my computer is aimed to my POVCOM
image slow render (8PPM at this time :-s)
Have a good journey and a merry Christmas

regards
Marc


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