I'm sorry to bother everyone again, but is there anyway Moray can export
to ANY other format than POV?  It has an export command in the File
menu, but it's blank.  Thanks.

Ben Hamatake
ben### [at] softhomenet

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Hi Ben Hamatake, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> ... is there anyway Moray can exportto ANY other format than POV?
No, it can't.

> It has an export command in the File menu, but it's blank.  
Yes, it's waiting for export plugins that will export to another
format.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Lutz Kretzschmar wrote:

> Hi Ben Hamatake, you recently wrote in moray.win:
>
> > ... is there anyway Moray can exportto ANY other format than POV?
> No, it can't.
>
> > It has an export command in the File menu, but it's blank.
> Yes, it's waiting for export plugins that will export to another
> format.
>
> - Lutz
>   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

Any one making those?  (Acting Like Ash on Pokémon) and for that Famous
and Well rounded covertion program; Thomas Baier I choose You!

Heheheh   well You Do seem to be the best suited for the job :}

May we See one one Soon!


(Sorry But i had to do the Pokémon thing.....)

Psychomek

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Psychomek wrote:

> Lutz Kretzschmar wrote:
>
> > Hi Ben Hamatake, you recently wrote in moray.win:
> >
> > > ... is there anyway Moray can exportto ANY other format than POV?
> > No, it can't.
> >
> > > It has an export command in the File menu, but it's blank.
> > Yes, it's waiting for export plugins that will export to another
> > format.
> >
> > - Lutz
> >   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
> >   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray
>
> Any one making those?  (Acting Like Ash on Pokémon) and for that Famous
> and Well rounded covertion program; Thomas Baier I choose You!

There is a RIB export plugin in beta testing stage. It works really
well(I've some prelim pics if anyone wants to see it), but the UV mapping
on object is a bit screwy(even moreso than in POV-Ray).

>
>
> Heheheh   well You Do seem to be the best suited for the job :}
>
> May we See one one Soon!
>
> (Sorry But i had to do the Pokémon thing.....)

Actually, that was uncalled for! Sorry, I think have have to shun you
forever now.

>
>
> Psychomek

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Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files. 
Doesn't handle all prims, nor does it handle textures.  However, for any
astute shader writer, this shouldn't be a problem...

Xander

Ben Hamatake wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry to bother everyone again, but is there anyway Moray can export
> to ANY other format than POV?  It has an export command in the File
> menu, but it's blank.  Thanks.
> 
> Ben Hamatake
> ben### [at] softhomenet

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Alexander Enzmann <xan### [at] mitreorg> wrote in message
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> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
> Doesn't handle all prims, nor does it handle textures.  However, for any
> astute shader writer, this shouldn't be a problem...
> AAAAAWWWWW DARN I can barely write e-mail and sometimes that is
unintelligable
Steven

> Xander
>
> Ben Hamatake wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry to bother everyone again, but is there anyway Moray can export
> > to ANY other format than POV?  It has an export command in the File
> > menu, but it's blank.  Thanks.
> >
> > Ben Hamatake
> > ben### [at] softhomenet

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> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.

Do you think that RIB is the right format? I know few about it; yet it
seems that its structure is quite complex.
And it's supported by few programs (not 3dwin, for example, which
makes it unsuitable I think).

If I'm right that RIB is a polygon based format, (i.e. NOT solid
modelling), wouldn't 3DS or Wavefront OBJ (supported by Java3D
directly ;-) ) be a better choice?

I can send you a specification Doc for Wavefront OBJ, which is a quite
simple format, and which I can recommend a lot...

> Doesn't handle all prims, 

May I guess... no plugin objects, UDO, infinite objects... just like
PolyRay?

Florian

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Florian Fischer wrote:

> > Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
>
> Do you think that RIB is the right format? I know few about it; yet it
> seems that its structure is quite complex.
> And it's supported by few programs (not 3dwin, for example, which
> makes it unsuitable I think).
>
> If I'm right that RIB is a polygon based format, (i.e. NOT solid
> modelling), wouldn't 3DS or Wavefront OBJ (supported by Java3D
> directly ;-) ) be a better choice?
>

Nope, its just your plain old solid modeling program- it has CSGs(even of
triangle and polygon meshes), many primitives(some that even POV-Ray d/n
support), accurate UV mapping, and NURBS(and soon BMRT will support
subdivision surfaces). This file format supports most of POV-Ray's
features, and has more besides. The renderer for it is also amazing, and
free. Anyhow, look on the POV-Ray links site- there is a program called,
IIRC, lily8 which converts RIB files to more easily convertable formats.

>
> I can send you a specification Doc for Wavefront OBJ, which is a quite
> simple format, and which I can recommend a lot...
>
> > Doesn't handle all prims,
>
> May I guess... no plugin objects, UDO, infinite objects... just like
> PolyRay?
>
> Florian

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I don't know if I can wait a week.  I'll explode!!!  But if that's what it
takes.... Please let me know when you have it posted and I'll be the first one
to check it out!  Thanks

Ben

Alexander Enzmann wrote:

> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
> Doesn't handle all prims, nor does it handle textures.  However, for any
> astute shader writer, this shouldn't be a problem...
>
> Xander
>
> Ben Hamatake wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry to bother everyone again, but is there anyway Moray can export
> > to ANY other format than POV?  It has an export command in the File
> > menu, but it's blank.  Thanks.
> >
> > Ben Hamatake
> > ben### [at] softhomenet

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Hi,

>> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
>
>Do you think that RIB is the right format? I know few about it; yet it
>seems that its structure is quite complex.
>And it's supported by few programs (not 3dwin, for example, which
>makes it unsuitable I think).

3dto3d V4 beta supports pov export as well rib export including uv,
texture and images. Better than Polytrans !

3DWin V4 will come very soon.

>
>If I'm right that RIB is a polygon based format, (i.e. NOT solid
>modelling), wouldn't 3DS or Wavefront OBJ (supported by Java3D
>directly ;-) ) be a better choice?
>
>I can send you a specification Doc for Wavefront OBJ, which is a quite
>simple format, and which I can recommend a lot...
>
>> Doesn't handle all prims, 
>
>May I guess... no plugin objects, UDO, infinite objects... just like
>PolyRay?
>
>Florian
>


Thomas Baier

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Alex Magidow wrote:

> Psychomek wrote:
>
> > Lutz Kretzschmar wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ben Hamatake, you recently wrote in moray.win:
> > >
> > > > ... is there anyway Moray can exportto ANY other format than POV?
> > > No, it can't.
> > >
> > > > It has an export command in the File menu, but it's blank.
> > > Yes, it's waiting for export plugins that will export to another
> > > format.
> > >
> > > - Lutz
> > >   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
> > >   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray
> >
> > Any one making those?  (Acting Like Ash on Pokémon) and for that Famous
> > and Well rounded covertion program; Thomas Baier I choose You!
>
> There is a RIB export plugin in beta testing stage. It works really
> well(I've some prelim pics if anyone wants to see it), but the UV mapping
> on object is a bit screwy(even moreso than in POV-Ray).
>
> >
> >
> > Heheheh   well You Do seem to be the best suited for the job :}
> >
> > May we See one one Soon!
> >
> > (Sorry But i had to do the Pokémon thing.....)
>
> Actually, that was uncalled for! Sorry, I think have have to shun you
> forever now.
>
> >
> >
> > Psychomek
>
> --
> You Know You've Been Raytracing Too Long When:
>  You send multiple images to the IRTC every day, and all of them win.
> Produced by Alex Magidow's Sig File Randomizer(YKYBRTTL jokes courtesy of
> c.g.r.raytracing)

Oh please no!   :`{  and this might be my one of my last posts here for a
while....   Surgery on 2/2/00  for my eyes   I'll Try and render a picture of
what i accually see...  Keep a look out for Doublevision.jpg....

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> Anyhow, look on the POV-Ray links site- there is a program called,
> IIRC, lily8 which converts RIB files to more easily convertable
> formats.

How much I like this process... one converter, next converter, third
converter, more converters... 

Still: Thanks a lot for the tip. Even if the method is complex, at
least there will be a method at all to export from Moray to many other
file formats...

Why are there so many file formats anyway???

Florian

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Florian Fischer wrote:

> > Anyhow, look on the POV-Ray links site- there is a program called,
> > IIRC, lily8 which converts RIB files to more easily convertable
> > formats.
>
> How much I like this process... one converter, next converter, third
> converter, more converters...

Well, since BMRT, IMHO, is the ultimate freeware renderer, why would you
want to convert from it?<G>

>
>
> Still: Thanks a lot for the tip. Even if the method is complex, at
> least there will be a method at all to export from Moray to many other
> file formats...
>
> Why are there so many file formats anyway???
>

Because there are some many renderers that can't decide on what they want
as a file format.

>
> Florian

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Exporting pov would be wonderful.  Thank you for your help.  Please let me
know when beta V4 is out. : ben### [at] softhomenet
Thanks All for your help!!!

Thomas Baier wrote:

> Hi,
>
> >> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
> >
> >Do you think that RIB is the right format? I know few about it; yet it
> >seems that its structure is quite complex.
> >And it's supported by few programs (not 3dwin, for example, which
> >makes it unsuitable I think).
>
> 3dto3d V4 beta supports pov export as well rib export including uv,
> texture and images. Better than Polytrans !
>
> 3DWin V4 will come very soon.
>
> >
> >If I'm right that RIB is a polygon based format, (i.e. NOT solid
> >modelling), wouldn't 3DS or Wavefront OBJ (supported by Java3D
> >directly ;-) ) be a better choice?
> >
> >I can send you a specification Doc for Wavefront OBJ, which is a quite
> >simple format, and which I can recommend a lot...
> >
> >> Doesn't handle all prims,
> >
> >May I guess... no plugin objects, UDO, infinite objects... just like
> >PolyRay?
> >
> >Florian
> >
>
> Thomas Baier

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:41:29 +0000, Ben Hamatake <ham### [at] trilobytenet>
wrote:

Hi,

sorry for the confusion:

3dto3d V4 beta is already available.
3DWin V4 will come very soon.

Both have pov/mdl/udo and rib support.

Thomas


>Exporting pov would be wonderful.  Thank you for your help.  Please let me
>know when beta V4 is out. : ben### [at] softhomenet
>Thanks All for your help!!!
>
>Thomas Baier wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> >> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
>> >
>> >Do you think that RIB is the right format? I know few about it; yet it
>> >seems that its structure is quite complex.
>> >And it's supported by few programs (not 3dwin, for example, which
>> >makes it unsuitable I think).
>>
>> 3dto3d V4 beta supports pov export as well rib export including uv,
>> texture and images. Better than Polytrans !
>>
>> 3DWin V4 will come very soon.
>>
>> >
>> >If I'm right that RIB is a polygon based format, (i.e. NOT solid
>> >modelling), wouldn't 3DS or Wavefront OBJ (supported by Java3D
>> >directly ;-) ) be a better choice?
>> >
>> >I can send you a specification Doc for Wavefront OBJ, which is a quite
>> >simple format, and which I can recommend a lot...
>> >
>> >> Doesn't handle all prims,
>> >
>> >May I guess... no plugin objects, UDO, infinite objects... just like
>> >PolyRay?
>> >
>> >Florian
>> >
>>
>> Thomas Baier

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What version of POV does 3dto3d V4 support?



Thomas Baier wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:41:29 +0000, Ben Hamatake <ham### [at] trilobytenet>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> sorry for the confusion:
>
> 3dto3d V4 beta is already available.
> 3DWin V4 will come very soon.
>
> Both have pov/mdl/udo and rib support.
>
> Thomas
>
> >Exporting pov would be wonderful.  Thank you for your help.  Please let me
> >know when beta V4 is out. : ben### [at] softhomenet
> >Thanks All for your help!!!
> >
> >Thomas Baier wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> >> Wait a week or so.  I'm planning to post an exporter for RIB files.
> >> >
> >> >Do you think that RIB is the right format? I know few about it; yet it
> >> >seems that its structure is quite complex.
> >> >And it's supported by few programs (not 3dwin, for example, which
> >> >makes it unsuitable I think).
> >>
> >> 3dto3d V4 beta supports pov export as well rib export including uv,
> >> texture and images. Better than Polytrans !
> >>
> >> 3DWin V4 will come very soon.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >If I'm right that RIB is a polygon based format, (i.e. NOT solid
> >> >modelling), wouldn't 3DS or Wavefront OBJ (supported by Java3D
> >> >directly ;-) ) be a better choice?
> >> >
> >> >I can send you a specification Doc for Wavefront OBJ, which is a quite
> >> >simple format, and which I can recommend a lot...
> >> >
> >> >> Doesn't handle all prims,
> >> >
> >> >May I guess... no plugin objects, UDO, infinite objects... just like
> >> >PolyRay?
> >> >
> >> >Florian
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thomas Baier

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Ben Hamatake wrote:
> 
> What version of POV does 3dto3d V4 support?

v3.1

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> Any one making those?  (Acting Like Ash on Pokémon) and for that Famous
> and Well rounded covertion program; Thomas Baier I choose You!

LOL!

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