Hi all,

this is to announce that I have uploaded the next beta version of
Moray V3.2 (1.9MB). Get it from:

  ftp://ftp.stmuc.com/pub/moray/moray32pb2.exe

This the second public beta version of Moray for Windows V3.2 and is
time-limited until the 15th of February 2000. We will provide either
another beta or the full release before then, so you will never be
without a running version. Since this will be a free upgrade, you
don't need to worry about the costs, either<g>.

Note that this is an upgrade and can only be installed over an
existing installation (or the previous beta). Note also that scene
files saved with this beta will not be readable by Moray V3.1 anymore,
so there's no going back with scene files that have been worked on
with this beta. The previous beta will be able to read files made with
this beta.

Since this is a beta, please note that it is your responsibility to
save early, save often and make backups!.

While we're pretty sure that there are no serious bugs in this beta,
we cannot guarantee that it won't crash. We will do everything in our
power to correct any bugs that crop up in the beta phase and will
release timely updates, depending on how critical the found bugs are.

Please report bugs either by posting here or by using the included
SoloBug reporter.

Have fun!

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web  : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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I think there's a bug in the upgrading program. When I try to run it (on my
NT system), it just tells me "unable to load the aux files", shortly after
it says it's "copying temporary support page". A message to mr. Lutz, maybe
an ordinary setup program could do? It's only waste of time making own
"special" installing program.

Juho

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Hi Juho Routakorpi, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> I think there's a bug in the upgrading program. When I try to run it (on my
> NT system), it just tells me "unable to load the aux files", shortly after
> it says it's "copying temporary support page". 
Hmmm. Sounds like a bad download.

> A message to mr. Lutz, maybe an ordinary setup program could do? 
> It's only waste of time making own "special" installing program.
It is not a special installing program and I did not make or write it,
it's a installation program that can be purchased/registered. It's
simply not as expensive as the Wise Installer that you're probably
thinking of.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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I agree--Download the file again.  I installed it on '98 and NT with no
problems.

Juho Routakorpi wrote:

> I think there's a bug in the upgrading program. When I try to run it (on my
> NT system), it just tells me "unable to load the aux files", shortly after
> it says it's "copying temporary support page". A message to mr. Lutz, maybe
> an ordinary setup program could do? It's only waste of time making own
> "special" installing program.
>
> Juho

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I like the new texture modifications (previews!) but I have one minor
complaint.

When I switch scene files I've noticed that Moray does not automatically
display the new wireframe until you redraw each of the view boxes.  I'm not
sure if this is a bug, but it sure is annoying.

-Chris-

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Hi Chris Spencer, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> When I switch scene files I've noticed that Moray does not automatically
> display the new wireframe until you redraw each of the view boxes.  I'm not
> sure if this is a bug, but it sure is annoying.
It was a bug, but I thought I'd corrected it in PB2. Can you please
give me explicit instructions on how to reproduce this exactly. The
bug that I corrected resulted when you opened the scene file by
double-clicking on the file in the File Open dialog. This was also the
only way I had the redraw problem. If you are seeing this in PB2, I
need exact instructions (what keys, what mouse clicks, etc.) on how to
reproduce it.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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>>>When I switch scene files I've noticed that Moray does not automatically
display the new wireframe until you redraw each of the view boxes. <<<

Lutz,

I have the same problem.  Unfortunately, it doesn't happen every time.  But
it happens every third or fourth time... I haven't been able to determine
any real "consistency" in the problem.  I have a scene open, open another
one and it happens.  Seems completely sporadic (although I'm sure there's
some point I'm missing).  I can save or not save, select from the "recently
opened" or browse the directory and open.  I can not duplicate the problem.

But three scene opens from now, it will happen again.

Personally, I'm more concerned about the multi-copies of textures when you
merge objects/scenes.  I'm working in a large scene that I have broken up
into smaller pieces.  When I put them together, well, it is a mess.  But, I
know this is "beta" so I'll do my best to be patient. ;)

Claire

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Okay, perhaps I mispoke and the multi-texture problem is corrected in this
version... my apologies.

Claire

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Ok, I see now.  I was unaware of the second Beta.

 Thanks,
-Chris-

Lutz Kretzschmar <lut### [at] stmuccom> wrote in message
news:388### [at] 194174214110...
> Hi Chris Spencer, you recently wrote in moray.win:
>
> > When I switch scene files I've noticed that Moray does not automatically
> > display the new wireframe until you redraw each of the view boxes.  I'm
not
> > sure if this is a bug, but it sure is annoying.
> It was a bug, but I thought I'd corrected it in PB2. Can you please
> give me explicit instructions on how to reproduce this exactly. The
> bug that I corrected resulted when you opened the scene file by
> double-clicking on the file in the File Open dialog. This was also the
> only way I had the redraw problem. If you are seeing this in PB2, I
> need exact instructions (what keys, what mouse clicks, etc.) on how to
> reproduce it.
>
> - Lutz
>   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Chris Spencer <chr### [at] bluelectrodecom> wrote in message
news:388a5ae6@news.povray.org...
> Ok, I see now.  I was unaware of the second Beta.

Huh? Didn't you notice that your initial bug report was as a reply to a
message with the subject line "ANNOUNCE: Moray V3.2 Public Beta 2" ??? ;-)

Johannes.

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