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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 10:55:01
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:

> >
> Well a bit o-t, but on the other hand we can argue that these novels are
> inspirational for ray-tracing :-) so some discussion is needed.
> Which reminds me of the Mythago Wood books by Robert Holdstock
> http://www.robertholdstock.com/, which are very famous (I've heard) in
> France. There is too a lot of inspiration for ray-tracing. I have not yet
> have had the time to work something out, but it is in the back of my mind.
>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren

Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 29 Sep 2006 03:05:19
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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
> What I'd like to see rendered, are scenes from Samuel R. Delany's 
> Dhalgren.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren
>
Ah yes!! That's a good suggestion! I loved the novel. Very intriguing (like 
most of Delany's work).

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 29 Sep 2006 03:35:00
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht
> news:web.451be14cdde9b2bbf1cb1e660@news.povray.org...
> >
> > What I'd like to see rendered, are scenes from Samuel R. Delany's
> > Dhalgren.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren
> >
> Ah yes!! That's a good suggestion! I loved the novel. Very intriguing (like
> most of Delany's work).
>
> Thomas

I meant it as an impossible challenge :-) The thought beggars my
imagination.
I must say that Science Fiction took a new turn for me after reading that
book.
Did you ever read the short story where Delany had a physical fight with
Roger Zelazny? It was a symbolic clash over writing styles and who was most

them wrote it nor who won.

Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 29 Sep 2006 07:27:32
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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
> I meant it as an impossible challenge :-) The thought beggars my
> imagination.

Hmm... There is that scene, right at the beginning of the book, where the 
woman turns into a tree. That would be interesting to model...

> I must say that Science Fiction took a new turn for me after reading that
> book.

Yes indeed, I agree. However, for me it was with Michael Moorcock editing 
the Dangerous Visions series. For me that was the watershed.

> Did you ever read the short story where Delany had a physical fight with
> Roger Zelazny? It was a symbolic clash over writing styles and who was 
> most
> popular. I think that it was tongue in cheek but I can't remember which of
> them wrote it nor who won.
>
No, I don't remember having read that story...

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 30 Sep 2006 03:11:39
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Yes indeed, I agree. However, for me it was with Michael Moorcock editing 
> the Dangerous Visions series. For me that was the watershed.
>
Correction: Not Michael Moorcock!!! Harlan Ellison was the editor of the 
Dangerous Visions series!!!
It seems that two different streams of consciousness collided in my brain 
:-)
Of course, Michael Moorcock's work is a watershed in its own right.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 1 Oct 2006 06:05:01
Message: <web.451f9199dde9b2bbee069fc0@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> schreef in bericht
> news:451d0324@news.povray.org...
> >
> > Yes indeed, I agree. However, for me it was with Michael Moorcock editing
> > the Dangerous Visions series. For me that was the watershed.
> >
> Correction: Not Michael Moorcock!!! Harlan Ellison was the editor of the
> Dangerous Visions series!!!
> It seems that two different streams of consciousness collided in my brain
> :-)
> Of course, Michael Moorcock's work is a watershed in its own right.
>
> Thomas



when I was a teenager but now his super heroes leave me cold. My latest
favourite author is Ken MacLeod.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_MacLeod
His early books were set in Glasgow (my birthplace) and London (where I now
live) and he is a socialist, to boot.

Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 1 Oct 2006 07:36:06
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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
> It's been so long since I read Dangerous Visions I forgot who edited it. 
> As
> for Michael Moorcock I don't think I've read him in 35 years. I loved him
> when I was a teenager but now his super heroes leave me cold. My latest
> favourite author is Ken MacLeod.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_MacLeod
> His early books were set in Glasgow (my birthplace) and London (where I 
> now
> live) and he is a socialist, to boot.
>
Didn't know MacLeod. Shall keep him in mind at my next bookshop visit 
(athought they tend to overexpose Fantasy, imo, and not SF). As for 
Moorcock, I was more interested in books like Behold the Man or the Ice 
Shooner (which would give some good renders too), but, yes, that was long 
ago...

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 2 Oct 2006 05:00:00
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:

> Didn't know MacLeod. Shall keep him in mind at my next bookshop visit
> (athought they tend to overexpose Fantasy, imo, and not SF).

Do that, try to start with the earliest series; The Star Fraction (1995),
The Stone Canal (1996), The Cassini Division (1997), The Sky Road (1999),
if you can. Yes there is too much Fantasy for my taste and I like you using


Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 2 Oct 2006 07:20:00
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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Do that, try to start with the earliest series; The Star Fraction (1995),
> The Stone Canal (1996), The Cassini Division (1997), The Sky Road (1999),
> if you can. Yes there is too much Fantasy for my taste and I like you 
> using
> "SF" not "Sci Fi". That is one of my pet hates :-)
>

I have transposed this now to povray.off-topic.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Medieval house #4
Date: 2 Oct 2006 08:40:01
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:

>
> I have transposed this now to povray.off-topic.
>
> Thomas


access to OT at work.

Stephen


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