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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:04:29
Message: <45b7bbcd@news.povray.org>
Hildur K. wrote:
> One suggestion:
> 
> "timeless"  possible interpretations: timeless, classic; running out of
> time; theory of relativity, speed of light should make time stand still;

> clock broke down, does time really exist?
> 
> 
> 
Not bad, not bad at all.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:07:40
Message: <45b7bc8c@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
>  Floccinaucinihilipilification.
> 


Timely, but too hard.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:09:20
Message: <45b7bcf0$1@news.povray.org>
Doctor John wrote:
> One more vote for TdeG's TINA CheP
> 

Still not catching the spirit of this one.  Is this a plane tiling reuion?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:13:35
Message: <45b7bdef$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:

> In the "New Topic?" thread in irtc.stills, I suggested that maybe the new IRTC topic
would be "optimism", in response to Steve's rather optimistic post on 1/14.  I think
it would be a good pseudo
> topic, given the current situation.  Any votes for "optimism"?
> 
Timely, but I wonder if the portrayal of such inner states is so good 
for a shortened time frame.  For me it would work better as the next 
topic.  Or maybe announce it now as an April deadline.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:13:54
Message: <sfffr2lsmp539u9cg5aqtt42des2h6ibj5@4ax.com>
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:51:40 -0500, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:

>Bruno Cabasson wrote:
>
>> 
>> Thomas de Groot already suggested :"This is NOT a checkered plane"
>
>Not bad.  Not sure I really understand it, but not bad.  My mind goes to 
>optical illusions.

It could be a scene that just does not have a chequered plane in it. It could be
a scene that looks like it has a chequered plane but doesn't. 
Just my tupence worth.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:17:30
Message: <mhffr2lh9jo53t2rk3ekv9cjs1dmj5g0g8@4ax.com>
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:01:14 -0500, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> Verm <pov### [at] thirteeendynucom> wrote:
>  >>
>>>Primitive - what can you do with just one type of primitive?
>> 
>> 

>> start :-)
>
>
>He lost it, both his head and the start.
>

Deep!


>> 
>
>I need more elaboration, I'm thinking either "optical illusion", or "the 
>"universe

Good idea. The world's your mollusc :-)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:24:42
Message: <45b7c08a$1@news.povray.org>
Bruno Cabasson wrote:
> Seconding Verm's "primitive", I suggest to use only basic shapes such as
> spheres, cylinders, cones, toruses .. no isosurface, no mesh, no blob
> ....Just to see what is possible and encouraging more imagination than pure
> technique.
> 

As much as I find this constant "return to the mathematical primitive" 
thing annoying, I see how it could work in this circumstance.  It's 
quick and dirty, there is a sense of return to the IRTC roots, the 
restriction of means almost always results in a kind of inventiveness 
even if not great expression, (but there is not enough time for grand 
scenes right now anyway), and it would throw some emphasis back onto 
texturing and lighting as skills.

Verm's original suggestion struck me as meaning the artist must pick and 
use just one of the primitives.  Perhaps that could be a constraint? 
Pick any primitive you want, but it's the only one you get.  Also there 
should be a definitive list of what's allowed and what is not.


> Another from myself: "The other side".
> 

Not bad.


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From: Bruno Cabasson
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:45:01
Message: <web.45b7c4282adc5aebc4f580310@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:51:31 EST, "Bruno Cabasson"
> <bru### [at] alcatelaleniaspacefr> wrote:
>
> >In order to decide quickly for the topic, so we can start asap working on
> >it, I propose to make the dead line for suggestion/decision within the next
> >6 hours.
> >
>
> I think you should give it a couple of days as not everyone lives online.
>
> Regards
>  Stephen

OK. 24 more hours until midnight tomorrow (French time, end of working day
in the US)

    Bruno


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 15:51:34
Message: <gmhfr21i8nun00hseiikm8clc3d0sgbt7t@4ax.com>
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:40:08 EST, "Bruno Cabasson"
<bru### [at] alcatelaleniaspacefr> wrote:

>OK. 24 more hours until midnight tomorrow (French time, end of working day
>in the US)

That's good of you.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Bruno Cabasson
Subject: Re: "Pseudo IRTC" topic suggestions wanted!
Date: 24 Jan 2007 16:05:00
Message: <web.45b7c96d2adc5aebc4f580310@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:

> Also there should be a definitive list of what's allowed and what is not.
>

My point of view: We don't have much time to collect suggestions about that
and decide precise constraints, unless the constraints are suggested by the
topic itself (eg "Black & White") or they are simple and 'overall' (eg
scenes are in a single POV-SDL file, without restrictions for the language
features).

Any idea welcome.

    Bruno


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